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CONEY ISLAND MOB BEATS EX-MARINES RESCUING GIRL
NEW YORK POST ^ | August 11, 2008 | PHILIP MESSING

Posted on 08/11/2008 3:25:35 PM PDT by Main Street

A wolf pack of at least 30 thugs viciously attacked two hero ex-Marines in Brooklyn after they rescued a teenage girl who was being assaulted, police and witnesses said yesterday. And when the brother of one of the former servicemen tried to come to his rescue during the July 25 melee in Coney Island, he was beaten into a coma. The former leathernecks, Valentyn Olenyev, 23, and Boris Bukler, 22, Russian émigrés who served tours in Iraq, were walking a female friend to her parked car on West 23rd Street at 12:30 a.m. when they spotted two men holding the screaming teen by her hands and legs. "She was yelling, 'Help!' "..."It wasn't our intention to get into a fight," said Bukler. "We said, 'Let the girl go, and we'll leave.' We told them, 'Stop.' "She was screaming, and all we did was look to help her. I got a bottle smashed over my head, and after that, I started fighting. But I got beat down. "I was getting my ass kicked by 50 people." Their friend called Olenyev's brother, Ivan, 22. "When I showed up, there were a lot of people there, people on the left and people on the right, and then - 'Boom!' - I got hit and passed out,"...Police sources said he was pounded senseless by 240-pound Timothy Dixon, 23, who was swinging a metal baseball bat. Ivan suffered multiple facial fractures and will require plastic surgery. The NYPD is looking for Dixon, who remains at large....The two former Marines, meanwhile, insist that the violence had racial overtones, although the assault has not been labeled a bias crime. Bukler said, "Those in the crowd were yelling, 'Hey, white boys, you're in the 'hood now!' We were yelling back, 'We don't care - we live here!'

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: assault; coneyisland; gangs; hatecrime; marines; righttocarry
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1 posted on 08/11/2008 3:25:35 PM PDT by Main Street
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To: Main Street

Did the girl get away?


2 posted on 08/11/2008 3:28:34 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Main Street

Looks like Coney Island is still a tough part of Brooklyn.


3 posted on 08/11/2008 3:28:53 PM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Vote --- this conservative is ambivalent to the odious Johnny Mac)
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To: Main Street
"Those in the crowd were yelling, 'Hey, white boys, you're in the 'hood now!'

Just your typical Obama supporters.

God Bless the brave heroic Marines (no such thing as ex-Marine! Dammit NYP! Murtha is an ex-Marine!).

4 posted on 08/11/2008 3:29:37 PM PDT by SolidWood (God Bless Georgia and grant them victory over Russia!)
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To: Main Street

Thank goodness nobody had a gun. Somebody could have gotten hurt.


5 posted on 08/11/2008 3:29:57 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: CindyDawg

It said she did.
Still trying to figure out why the Marine’s friend didn’t call the cops...


6 posted on 08/11/2008 3:30:04 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Come then, War! With hearts elated to thy standard we will fly!)
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To: Main Street
not been labeled a bias crime

A BIAS crime? The media commits as "bias" crime by not labeling it as a HATE crime.

7 posted on 08/11/2008 3:31:02 PM PDT by SolidWood (God Bless Georgia and grant them victory over Russia!)
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To: Main Street

Is Barack Obama going to visit these wounded Marines?
Or is he afraid of losing the all important thug vote he’s been courting?


8 posted on 08/11/2008 3:31:50 PM PDT by counterpunch (John McCain - For the LOVE of Country)
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To: Main Street

“Hey white boys, you are in the hood now.”

That’s great. That’s just great. I bet these thugs are voting for McCain.


9 posted on 08/11/2008 3:32:17 PM PDT by Porterville (would you rather live in today's britain or yesterday's CCCP?)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Maybe he did. Where are you seeing that she got away?


10 posted on 08/11/2008 3:33:01 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Main Street

‘Hey, white boys, you’re in the ‘hood now!’

Time to clean out the “hood” of these racist thugs.


11 posted on 08/11/2008 3:34:28 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: SolidWood
"Those in the crowd were yelling, 'Hey, white boys, you're in the 'hood now!'

Nope. No racism here. Move along.

12 posted on 08/11/2008 3:34:36 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: counterpunch

“Is Barack Obama going to visit these wounded Marines?”

That would be a great question to ask him.


13 posted on 08/11/2008 3:34:43 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Obama: The presumptuous democratic nominee)
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To: SolidWood

Hey, no media bias here. It’s only a hate crime if white guys beat up a black guy, but not vice versa. That clear it up?


14 posted on 08/11/2008 3:34:56 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: Main Street
The two former Marines, meanwhile, insist that the violence had racial overtones, although the assault has not been labeled a bias crime.

These guys deserve our undying gratitude, a medal and a program (Americans of slavic extraction are not on the official list of aggrieved minorities - they are on the wrong side of the official double standard).

15 posted on 08/11/2008 3:36:18 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Main Street
Jesse, Sharpton et al will be right there to condemn this crime - of the white boys inferring with the black boys fun...
16 posted on 08/11/2008 3:37:00 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: Main Street

Savages. ‘Nuff said.


17 posted on 08/11/2008 3:37:13 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Main Street
although the assault has not been labeled a bias crime.

Bias crime???

Let me guess:

White on black crime is a "hate crime"

Black on white crime is a "bias crime"

Also the writer should know their are only a few "ex marines": Murtha etc, the rest are former-Marines

18 posted on 08/11/2008 3:37:36 PM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: maine-iac7
"Thugs" huh, beating on some Russian immigrants who are now American patriots.

I say we plant these "thugs" on the streets of Moscow and see how they like it.
19 posted on 08/11/2008 3:37:50 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: SolidWood

There are no two groups, when brought into close company, that will get into a bigger brawl, than Russian immigrants and young urban blacks males.

Not saying the Russians in this instance did anything wrong.

Russians emigrees are whites without any white guilt and will not tolerate any what what from any street thug types.


20 posted on 08/11/2008 3:38:40 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (There once was a dream called, "Hippy Beat Down." The mere whisper of if caused cops to cry.")
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

“Russians emigrees are whites without any white guilt and will not tolerate any what what from any street thug types.”

The way it should be.


21 posted on 08/11/2008 3:39:39 PM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Main Street

From the link:

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The two former Marines, meanwhile, insist that the violence had racial overtones, although the assault has not been labeled a bias crime.

Bukler said, “Those in the crowd were yelling, ‘Hey, white boys, you’re in the ‘hood now!’ We were yelling back, ‘We don’t care - we live here!’


Of couurse the WHITE EX MARINES being ATTACKED by NON WHITES isn’t a “hate crime”. Clearly COLOR mattered.


22 posted on 08/11/2008 3:39:56 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: CindyDawg
The article says toward the end:

The teenage girl fled after the melee.

23 posted on 08/11/2008 3:39:59 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: nmh

No such thing as an ex marine I have been told :)


24 posted on 08/11/2008 3:41:23 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Yep, I would expect to see retaliation from the Russian immigrant community. These damn idiots are going to get themselves into a real trick one of these days when they not knowingly tangle with the Russian mob.


25 posted on 08/11/2008 3:41:31 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Main Street
Police sources said he was pounded senseless by 240-pound Timothy Dixon, 23, who was swinging a metal baseball bat.

Animals. And they should be treated as such.

26 posted on 08/11/2008 3:41:31 PM PDT by McGruff (Georgia = friend. Russia = enemy.)
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To: SolidWood
I have to say, I wouldn’t be caught dead at “Coney Island”.

It's crawling with the Obomination type degenerates.

27 posted on 08/11/2008 3:41:50 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: DonaldC

Hate crimes?

Nah. . . the Department of Justice won’t be interested.


28 posted on 08/11/2008 3:42:28 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Main Street

Wow, that’s pretty sad. What happened, it wasn’t really clear. The girl was being attacked, the article didn’t say by who, the ex-Marines stepped in to help, and the whole neighborhood turned on them because they were white? That’s what I read, though it wasn’t very clear. But if that’s how it happened, it sounds very sad. Is this country worth defending with slobs like that occupying the inner cities?


29 posted on 08/11/2008 3:42:30 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: Main Street; glock rocks; NormsRevenge; SouthTexas

Ugly Ping...


30 posted on 08/11/2008 3:42:51 PM PDT by tubebender (Why does a round pizza come in a square box?)
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To: Porterville

“That’s just great. I bet these thugs are voting for McCain.”

Are people with long criminal records who are on probation allowed to vote?


31 posted on 08/11/2008 3:43:05 PM PDT by Canedawg
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To: SolidWood
Now, now the attack was against white men so it couldn't be a hate crime! Could it??? Of course they are “Russian white” not “American white” will that make a difference?

sarc sarc sarc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What will this country become??????

32 posted on 08/11/2008 3:44:13 PM PDT by onlylewis (libs want a two class system, one rich one poor)
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To: Main Street

Those guys are heroes butyou don’t take fists to that kind of fight. Looks like the streets need cleaning.


33 posted on 08/11/2008 3:45:28 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Pray for John McCain. The man who would not leave his fellow soldiers behind and loves America.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Have you ever been in a bar fight? Hand-to-hand combat? Have you ever gone to the aid of a friend in a fight?

I’ve been in all three. Unfortunately there isn’t time sometimes to stop and dial 911. Sometimes the only thing to do is defend the innocent and help your friends and hope like hell one of the innocent bystanders who can’t, won’t or is just not going to help, calls the cops.

Sometimes, you gotta fight.

Good on the Marines.


34 posted on 08/11/2008 3:45:44 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Main Street

This happened July 25th & it’s just now making the paper? How long have they been sitting on this? (Police? City Officials? News Editors?)


35 posted on 08/11/2008 3:47:21 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Main Street

Hey Marines. In the good old days, whenever a Marine was beat up by a mob, you could bet your bottom dollar that next time, there would be a LOT more Marines around. And the mob would lose.

I had a great uncle who was a senior Marine NCO. Had any of his Marines been attacked, he would have had a platoon pay a visit to that bad part of town on a “sightseeing” tour.

Sometimes the old ways are better.


37 posted on 08/11/2008 3:50:14 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: William Tell
Not too many years ago my husband and I would often drive over to Coney Island for some Nathan's split pea soup. Yummy!

He would double park in front, get out, and lean against the car . . . watching me while I went inside and ordered.

We never had any trouble but if we had, he wouldn't have hesitated to pull out his S&W .38, which was legal for him to carry as a LEO.

38 posted on 08/11/2008 3:50:52 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Main Street

It wouldn’t hurt my feelings at all so see some sort of white vigilante justice, some kind of retaliation for what seems to happen with impunity.


39 posted on 08/11/2008 3:51:01 PM PDT by RedCobra (s)
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To: Main Street

Silence from Obama on the incident.


40 posted on 08/11/2008 3:51:34 PM PDT by cw35
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To: Main Street

Sick animals.


41 posted on 08/11/2008 3:52:43 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Canedawg

In most states, yes.


42 posted on 08/11/2008 3:53:23 PM PDT by muggs (No matter who wins, America loses)
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To: Parley Baer
Blacks can't be racist. To be racist one race has to have power over the race. I'm sure that's what I hear blacks say.

43 posted on 08/11/2008 3:54:01 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: CindyDawg
The NYPD is looking for Dixon, who remains at large. The teenage girl fled after the melee.

Towards the end; it says that that Marine's female friend called the brother, but no mention of the police.

44 posted on 08/11/2008 3:54:19 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Come then, War! With hearts elated to thy standard we will fly!)
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To: Main Street

This sounds like a job for a lot of ex-marines, at night, with stuff...


45 posted on 08/11/2008 3:54:59 PM PDT by Misschuck
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
Russians emigrees are whites without any white guilt and will not tolerate any what what from any street thug types.

That's partly because Russians, generally, are from a level of poverty that would make our "ghettos" look like Beverly Hills, not to mention that many of them have experienced an actual police state, as opposed to the police state that Al Sharpton types accuse us of having.
46 posted on 08/11/2008 3:55:32 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: William Tell

read the article - a good guy was beaten into a coma....I think he was hurt without a gun.


47 posted on 08/11/2008 3:58:00 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Well, there was time for her to call one of the men’s brother, who arrived in plenty of time to get his ass kicked.
I’m jut wondering if maybe she knew the police wouldn’t even show up...


48 posted on 08/11/2008 3:58:52 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Come then, War! With hearts elated to thy standard we will fly!)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

I don’t carry any “white guilt” and I am from here!


49 posted on 08/11/2008 3:58:53 PM PDT by claymax ("Remember upon the conduct of each depends the fate of all." Alexander the Great)
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To: Main Street

Another hate crime that will be labeled something else, such as 2 marines instigate minorities defending themselves.


50 posted on 08/11/2008 3:59:43 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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