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Texas Is Fed Up With Corn Ethanol
Wall Street Journal ^ | August 12, 2008 | RICK PERRY

Posted on 08/12/2008 9:29:42 AM PDT by djsherin

At what price will corn be so expensive that the federal government will decide that it is time to stop driving up the price of food?

Three years ago, Congress imposed a Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS) mandate that has forced the gasoline industry to mix massive amounts of corn-based ethanol into the nation's fuel supply. In 2007, Congress nearly doubled that mandate to require nine billion gallons of ethanol be blended into gas in 2008 and even more in 2009.

But, as a safety valve, Congress gave the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) the power to waive the new mandates if they turn out to have unforeseen, negative consequences.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cornprices; energy; epa; ethanol; ethanolscam; foodforoil; fuel; prices; texas

1 posted on 08/12/2008 9:29:42 AM PDT by djsherin
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To: djsherin

Good article....just depressing.


2 posted on 08/12/2008 9:34:00 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: djsherin

The congress critters don’t give a rat’s arse if people in third world countries are starving. They think they are saving the friggin planet, and you know, those votes in Iowa are really important to them.


3 posted on 08/12/2008 9:34:57 AM PDT by webschooner (Bumper Sticker: "None of the Above, 2008")
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To: djsherin
~~~Mr. Perry, a Republican, is the governor of Texas.~~~

They just had to throw that in there didn't they. Like it makes a difference who's side he's on...it's the truth and as usual the environazi’s are incapable of recognizing the facts!

4 posted on 08/12/2008 9:36:10 AM PDT by Devilinbaggypants (He who wishes to give little shouldn't ask for much.)
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To: djsherin

I love Governor Perry.

My leftist In-Laws hate his guts but he’s a great guv. He’s created a business-friendly environment in the state and the economy is growing by leaps and bounds down here.

And this article simply shows how sensible he is. Too bad the federal bureaucrats don’t share his ability to reason.


5 posted on 08/12/2008 9:38:12 AM PDT by jtal
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To: djsherin

A inefficient fuel substitute, puts food supply in competition with energy supply, 1 gallon of ethanol requires over 2000 gallons of water to produce; what’s not to like about Gore juice?


6 posted on 08/12/2008 9:42:08 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: DogBarkTree

Doesn’t it also take oil to produce? Corn ethanol is so stupid it’s mind boggling. I’ve heard of other ethanol alternatives such as algae, which I’m all for if it can be done effectively and efficiently. Plus with something like algae, no one would be competing for it as a resource since its only real use would be ethanol. But who knows.


7 posted on 08/12/2008 9:48:16 AM PDT by djsherin
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To: djsherin

Rock on, Governor Perry. Fight them long and hard and you will be President soon.

And THAT will be a good thing.

America needs someone who will take a strong stand on energy and cut the crap...

Drill, build nuclear, build wind, cut the corn nonsense out...


8 posted on 08/12/2008 9:48:28 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." W 2001)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

America needs someone who will take a strong stand on energy and cut the crap...

Drill, build nuclear, build wind, cut the corn nonsense out...”

How about the Nobama ad that says” Fast Track Alternative Energy”?????

How fast did all those Ethanol refineries get approved and built???

Faster than most high rise apartments can be approved.


9 posted on 08/12/2008 9:51:17 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: djsherin

Let’s be a tax more accurate here:

Texas feedlot operators and packing plants are fed up with ethanol.

Count ‘em up:

http://www.cattle-fax.com/states.html


10 posted on 08/12/2008 9:55:05 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: webschooner

I don’t give a rat’s rear end that people in third world dumps are starving. I don’t want my elected representatives to care about the situation either, because when they start “caring” about people in Third World dungheaps, they do the “caring” with MY money.


11 posted on 08/12/2008 9:56:11 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: DogBarkTree

Congress has caused food prices to skyrocket. If all the farmland in the U.S. was used to grow corn, and if all that corn was used for ethanol, it would still only meet about 10% of our fuel needs. The “Corn Laws” are idiotic and should be repealed by our fools in Congress. Boone Pickens, an oil billionaire and energy expert, has called corn ethanol “a joke”. (See www.pickensplan.com for more on his ideas.)

Congress should lift the ban on offshore drilling and drilling in ANWR. Congress should support, instead of putting roadblocks in the way of, the construction of nuclear power plants. Our Congressmorons have been out to lunch for 30 years.


12 posted on 08/12/2008 9:56:21 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: djsherin
Ethanol bad, Butanol good.
13 posted on 08/12/2008 10:00:15 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: djsherin

The only one who should be turning corn into alcohol is J. W. Dant.


14 posted on 08/12/2008 10:05:53 AM PDT by Spok (Whatever you say about McCain, it must be admitted that he's no B. Hussein Obama.)
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

(Houston) TEXAS PING


15 posted on 08/12/2008 10:07:38 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: weegee

I filled up on Sunday and the pump handles all said may contain Ethanol-I have a new Honda Accord-does ethanol have any “bad” effects in your tank? I kind of worried after putting it in the tank it may cause car to run funny or something.


16 posted on 08/12/2008 10:11:36 AM PDT by LYSandra
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To: djsherin

Really the relationship isn’t direct. The corn being siphoned off for fuel would be that which is used indirectly (feed, processed products for other foodstuffs). Right now feed costs are putting some livestock producers out of business or at least looking for lower cost alternatives. That said the BIG killer in this equation is fuel and its common to all of the price rises.


17 posted on 08/12/2008 10:15:37 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: djsherin
My local Shell station has a sign out front that states that their fuel is 100% gas, no ethanol. how are they getting around this mandate?

If the claims are true that ethanol reduces mileage by 5-10%, the 5 cents extra i pay for their gas is a steal in comparison.

18 posted on 08/12/2008 10:23:16 AM PDT by jdub
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To: Devilinbaggypants
They just had to throw that in there didn't they. Like it makes a difference who's side he's on...it's the truth and as usual the environazi’s are incapable of recognizing the facts!

Actually, in this case I'm glad they pointed out party affiliation. IMO it shows who displays common sense, and it is not the "environazis". Energy is going to be the key issue in Republicans favor this election.

19 posted on 08/12/2008 10:32:49 AM PDT by jdub
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To: DogBarkTree
1 gallon of ethanol requires over 2000 gallons of water to produce

Where does that claim come from? Is that mostly the rain on the corn field?

20 posted on 08/12/2008 10:33:59 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: LYSandra

It does have bad effects, but recent cars can generally handle 10-15% ethanol without a problem.

Older cars, especially carbureted ones.... well, they’re in trouble.


21 posted on 08/12/2008 10:36:24 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: djsherin

Americas biggest problem ->> FEDERAL GOVERNMENT


22 posted on 08/12/2008 10:38:22 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: jdub

See: http://www.seco.cpa.state.tx.us/re_ethanol_mtbe.htm


23 posted on 08/12/2008 10:38:35 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: djsherin

Excellent post. Thanks !


24 posted on 08/12/2008 10:48:33 AM PDT by jimt
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To: hosepipe

Couldn’t agree more.


25 posted on 08/12/2008 10:54:53 AM PDT by djsherin
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To: Spktyr
It does have bad effects, but recent cars can generally handle 10-15% ethanol without a problem.

Neat little trick to see how much ethanol is in gas. Get a test tube and put some gasoline in it. Mark the gas line on the tube. Add some water and shake. Any alcohol will mix with the water and the gas level will go down accordingly.

26 posted on 08/12/2008 11:24:56 AM PDT by IamConservative (On 11/4, remember 9/11...)
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To: djsherin; All

Barring an early frost or cooling, this years report of a very abundant corn crop should cause a drop in the price of corn. Also a number of ethanol plants had to close because they could not afford to make ethanol with the high price of corn.


27 posted on 08/12/2008 11:26:39 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Devilinbaggypants
~~~Mr. Perry, a Republican, is the governor of Texas.~~~ They just had to throw that in there didn't they. Like it makes a difference who's side he's on...it's the truth and as usual the environazi’s are incapable of recognizing the facts!

Not one MSM rag noted that psycopathic criminal Kwame Kilpatrick is a Dem. The MSM are SCUM.

28 posted on 08/12/2008 11:55:30 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: webschooner

How is lowering mph by adding Ethanol to the gas good for the environment again? I forgot.


29 posted on 08/12/2008 12:13:40 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: jtal
He’s created a business-friendly environment in the state

If you are a large corporation, maybe. If you are a small business, Perry is poison. He instituted a state income tax on small businesses, with the STUPIDEST new franchise tax in American history, based on sales, rather than profits.

Lots of small businesses (mine included) are being punished on both ends - the property tax relief promised did not apply to us, and the new franchise tax kicked in.

God help me - I voted for Gov. Trans-Pappiloma, so I guess I deserved it.
30 posted on 08/12/2008 12:18:39 PM PDT by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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To: djsherin

Just further evidence that this government and by extension, this administration doesn’t give a rats arse about the peons they think they rule or anyone else other than their rich (and getting richer) fat cat crony buddies in their crimes against the working class (poor people). Come election time this will be one of the criteria I use to allocate my votes, i.e. if any of my elected congressional critters support or supported this atrocity I will vote for the other guy regardless of party and not feel the least bit of guilt about it.


31 posted on 08/12/2008 1:00:11 PM PDT by Ron H. (If you don't stand for conservatism then you'll end up with socialism.)
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To: Ron H.

It’s funny how “soak the rich” policies and politicians that fight “for the people” end up hurting the poor and middle class and make social mobility more difficult, keeping everyone where they are. But hey, at least they’ll always have a constituency to “feed”.


32 posted on 08/12/2008 2:49:33 PM PDT by djsherin
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To: djsherin

About damn time we stopped the madness...


33 posted on 08/12/2008 8:38:32 PM PDT by Redbob ("WWJBD" ="What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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