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Huggies Wow; I'm a Gymnast Now; Underage Chinese Olympic Gymnasts Rant, Bella Caroli is Right
Associated Content ^ | August 12, 2008 | Michael Luchies

Posted on 08/13/2008 12:32:54 AM PDT by joinedafterattack

Huggies wow; I'm a gymnast now! I am watching the Olympics right now and couldn't be more upset watching a sporting event. I am not mad that the country I am routing for (United States) is falling apart, not mad because the only event they are showing is gymnastics, but furious because several of the gymnasts are clearly under the 16 year old age requirement. Bella Caroli himself made a comment during the broadcast that the Chinese gymnasts were under 16 but since they had "legitimate" passports, they are allowed to compete. Aren't the Olympics supposed to be the purist form of sports? Will cheating in sports ever end?

Obviously I have absolutely no evidence or proof that any of the gymnasts in the olympics are under the age of 16. But if you are fortunate to have a set of eyes and common sense you can clearly see that the women...sorry little girls that are putting on an amazing show are barely toilet trained. Ok that may be a little harsh but look at them! Many of the Chinese girls do not come up to the shoulders of any other countries athletes. I think I saw someone on the balance beam who didn't have teeth yet. Are they midgets? Is there a national problem in China with women who have stunted growth?

These girls are unbelievable, but still little girls who have no life outside of gymnastics. They are sent by their parents as young as 3 off to train for the Olympics. Sometimes they are even able to see their parents once every other year.

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Huggies wow; I'm a gymnast now! I am watching the Olympics right now and couldn't be more upset watching a sporting event. I am not mad that the country I am routing for (United States) is falling apart, not mad because the only event they are showing is gymnastics, but furious because several of the gymnasts are clearly under the 16 year old age requirement. Bella Caroli himself made a comment during the broadcast that the Chinese gymnasts were under 16 but since they had "legitimate" passports, they are allowed to compete. Aren't the Olympics supposed to be the purist form of sports? Will cheating in sports ever end?

Obviously I have absolutely no evidence or proof that any of the gymnasts in the olympics are under the age of 16. But if you are fortunate to have a set of eyes and common sense you can clearly see that the women...sorry little girls that are putting on an amazing show are barely toilet trained. Ok that may be a little harsh but look at them! Many of the Chinese girls do not come up to the shoulders of any other countries athletes. I think I saw someone on the balance beam who didn't have teeth yet. Are they midgets? Is there a national problem in China with women who have stunted growth?

These girls are unbelievable, but still little girls who have no life outside of gymnastics. They are sent by their parents as young as 3 off to train for the Olympics. Sometimes they are even able to see their parents once every other year.

1 posted on 08/13/2008 12:32:55 AM PDT by joinedafterattack
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To: joinedafterattack

I’ve worked with Chinese women who I know were 30-40 years old who looked like they were twelve. Probably barking up the wrong tree with this one. The American team made fatal mistakes in competition and that’s the real story.


2 posted on 08/13/2008 12:36:56 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: joinedafterattack

I noticed one of the Chinese gymnasts must have had a padded bra because after her uneven bar routine on the qualifying night, one boob was up and one was down.

Tonight I noticed that the little baby on the team forgot not to smile big and she indeed is missing the same molar tooth my 11-year-old son is missing. She can’t be more than 12 or 13.


3 posted on 08/13/2008 12:38:29 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Interesting you should bring this up.
I was talking with a guy today who is interested in doing business in China. He saw a video on China featuring one of these girls. They made a point of stating that she was twelve. The video was made in 2006.


4 posted on 08/13/2008 12:42:54 AM PDT by getitright (surrender aint peace)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Well, I’m in San Francisco, a city with a huge Chinese population. I see Chinese teens all the time. There’s no way that a couple of those gymnasts are 16. More like 12.


5 posted on 08/13/2008 12:45:33 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: The KG9 Kid

Take a look at these.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Yuyuan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deng_Linlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_Kexin

Seems like there might be evidence other than visual appearances that these athletes are underage.


6 posted on 08/13/2008 12:46:50 AM PDT by ConservativeTeen
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To: The KG9 Kid
Oh, please. The Americans had some injuries, and made mistakes.

However, they are very young themselves; and have been brought up in the American way...you work hard and reap the rewards.

To show up at the biggest event of their lives, to be confronted by an entire team of obvious cheaters...and to realize that NO ONE in charge is going to do anything about it, had to have been a crushing blow before they ever set foot on the competition floor.

And, spare us the "we are just not used to how young the Asians look" crap. This is elite level gymnastics; I'm sure that every other coach and team knows exactly who these children are...and exactly how old they are.

I expect you will hear more about it after our athletes have finished competition and are out of China.

7 posted on 08/13/2008 12:54:23 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: getitright

There were also a bunch of articles in the Chinese media about the girls that had them at a younger age. It also must be a conicidence that two of them were born on the first of the month according to the Chinese government issued passports.


8 posted on 08/13/2008 12:56:49 AM PDT by SMCC1
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To: ConservativeTeen

So if this is a matter within “FIG” jusisdiction, ....

Well, what’s their problem? Investigate!
China wants to be part of the real world now. Let the bastards learn what happens when you lie and cheat out here in the real world. Strip them of the medals and paint them with shame.


9 posted on 08/13/2008 12:58:40 AM PDT by getitright (surrender aint peace)
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To: getitright

They were all paid off by the Chinese govt.

It’s BS, but the Chinese govt will do anything to finish #1 in golds.


10 posted on 08/13/2008 1:01:38 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: irishjuggler

The Chinese control the paper work in this case. Too bad there isn’t a blood or urine test what will revel a person’s age.


11 posted on 08/13/2008 1:06:56 AM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: getitright
I just happened to wake up and (first thing turn on FR) and saw this thread, turned on nbc and My Goodness! They are babies(or just look like them). Announcer just said they looked vulnerable. For all the Olympic committee on their high horse this is a joke.
Yes, lets just wait til they get off chinese soil. Look at the American girls’ attitudes, they know it. 1 girl looks peeved.
12 posted on 08/13/2008 1:07:34 AM PDT by MarineMom613 (My son is My Hero!!!)
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To: joinedafterattack

Do you actually believe that the Chinese government would be part of such a fraud? What are you going to say next? That they faked the fireworks display at the opening ceremonies? Or that they used another child to lip-sync their national anthem in front of the whole world?
Stop the China bashing!


13 posted on 08/13/2008 1:08:27 AM PDT by kik5150
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To: kik5150

How about, “they put lead in children’s toys”. Don’t forget to add that one.


14 posted on 08/13/2008 1:12:11 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: joinedafterattack

We’ve been discussing this and posting video and links here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2060983/posts


15 posted on 08/13/2008 1:14:12 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: oyez
The Chinese control the paper work in this case. Too bad there isn’t a blood or urine test what will revel a person’s age.

Yeah, these little gals undoubtedly have passports, birth certificates, heck, probably even driver's licenses "establishing" their ages as 16 and up. Of course, the Chinese government can print up any documents that it wants. Eventually, some sort of carbon-14 test might be developed...

"Born after 1950? Your eyes reveal your age"
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/02/23/MNL0V79LA.DTL
16 posted on 08/13/2008 1:24:58 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: irishjuggler

Could the Chinese use hormone blocking drugs?

You bet!

Those girls if aged 16 are doctored up to keep them from maturing. No breast or hip development.


17 posted on 08/13/2008 1:27:55 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: SatinDoll

Don’t forget that China steals our patents.


18 posted on 08/13/2008 1:33:16 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: irishjuggler

I agree. At least one of the Chinese gymnasts is no more than 12 right now and another looks like she’s barely 13. The announcers kept repeating the “16 this year” and there’s just no way a couple of them are 15 right now.

I’d be surprised if they came back on them later and took the gold away.


19 posted on 08/13/2008 1:36:29 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: The KG9 Kid

I agree with you.


20 posted on 08/13/2008 1:40:01 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: joinedafterattack
Ok, let's take a test.

How old is this Chinese girl.

Take your guess and post.

21 posted on 08/13/2008 1:43:34 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan

29 years


22 posted on 08/13/2008 1:47:10 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: joinedafterattack
I lived in Taipei for 4 years. These remarkable cherubs are not 16. I have been teaching high school for 17 years, and we have always quite a few girls from Asia here. These Olympic urchins are not 16.

I've sat on the concrete floor of my daughter's orphanage in China, surrounded by 20 other precious little girls. This barbaric government has quite a stable of God's precious little girls, numbering in the millions, all across China, sitting in orphanages, waiting for adoption, or waiting for the Commissar of Tumbling, along with his entourage of scientists, to come measuring them to see who among them meets the specifications of Heavenly Body Shape for Mao's Trapeze Flyers.
23 posted on 08/13/2008 1:56:27 AM PDT by jobim
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To: BJungNan

37.


24 posted on 08/13/2008 1:56:42 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: BJungNan

19


25 posted on 08/13/2008 1:59:38 AM PDT by JDoutrider (Obama: The Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: BJungNan
"Is my probation officer watching?"

"Hey little girl, want to play Poke-man? I'll buy you some french fries..."

26 posted on 08/13/2008 2:07:07 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: joinedafterattack

“Aren’t the Olympics supposed to be the purist form of sports?”

Get a grip. Do you really believe that? Is has nothing to do with the “purity of sports”.


27 posted on 08/13/2008 2:45:12 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: joinedafterattack

“Aren’t the Olympics supposed to be the purist”?
No, this Olympics is simply a coming out party for the chi-coms to show the world that china is a great world power and culture and place.
Course the chi-coms don’t want you to see the underbelly of their corrupt system.


28 posted on 08/13/2008 3:02:11 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: joinedafterattack

> Aren’t the Olympics supposed to be the purist form of sports?

No. The Olympics has nothing to do with Sports. The Olympics is supposed to be a showcase for the host country, a 24x7 infomercial for the sponsors, and an opportunity for steroid-enhanced monsters to compete against real Athletes and earn megabucks in sponsorships for “winning”.

> Will cheating in sports ever end?

There is no cheating in Sports. But there is plenty of cheating in the Olympics.

And these are the ChiCom Olympics — we all knew that the ChiComs are as crooked as a tub-of-guts, so why is anyone surprised that they are proving to be superb cheats?

Indeed, I would be bitterly disappointed in the ChiComs DIDN’T cheat better than anyone else.

That is why they are ChiComs. And they are doing what they do best.


29 posted on 08/13/2008 3:06:56 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: BJungNan

Age shmage, I wouldn’t even bet that that IS a girl (something slightly drag-queenie about it).

That aside fair is fair: Give us motion pictures of that person in action THEN let us guess.


30 posted on 08/13/2008 3:33:40 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: BJungNan
How old is this Chinese girl.

Judging from the students I've seen at the University of Chicago, she could be anywhere between 11 and 31.
31 posted on 08/13/2008 3:35:38 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: BJungNan

41.


32 posted on 08/13/2008 3:53:36 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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To: Yaelle

I noticed the tooth thing right away....some of those girls don’t have a fully developed set of teeth.


33 posted on 08/13/2008 4:05:11 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: irishjuggler
The Chinese control the paper work in this case. Too bad there isn’t a blood or urine test what will revel a person’s age.

Yeah, it's not like we've got a presidential candidate trying to pass off a doctored COLB and get away with it...

34 posted on 08/13/2008 4:08:06 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: ChiMark

Breast and hip development are not necessarily indicative of physical maturity. I have female patients who are 20, 30, 40 years old with no breasts or hips to speak of, I would hope people like you would not say they have not “matured.”

In any case, athletes of leanness-related sport disciplines, such as gymnastics, ballet, long distance running will naturally have delayed onset of puberty or menarche.

No one doubts that the girls look young. However, there is no need to accuse or insinuate people are using so-called “hormone blocking drugs” unless you know the facts.

And if indeed, China steals all “your” patents, I would hope you do not perpetuate this “stealing” and use or advocate only “your” type of products. Thanks


35 posted on 08/13/2008 4:30:51 AM PDT by verse1
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To: ChiMark

Breast and hip development are not necessarily indicative of physical maturity. I have female patients who are 20, 30, 40 years old with no breasts or hips to speak of, I would hope people like you would not say they have not “matured.”

In any case, athletes of leanness-related sport disciplines, such as gymnastics, ballet, long distance running will naturally have delayed onset of puberty or menarche.

No one doubts that the girls look young. However, there is no need to accuse or insinuate people are using so-called “hormone blocking drugs” unless you know the facts.

And if indeed, China steals all “your” patents, I would hope you do not perpetuate this “stealing” and use or advocate only “your” type of products. Thanks


36 posted on 08/13/2008 4:30:51 AM PDT by verse1
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To: joinedafterattack

While watching the games last night I was constantly echoing the same thing, “there’s NO WAY most of those girls are even close to 16”.

I won’t deny that the Americans, specifically Alicia Sacrmone, didn’t screw up big time, but there was a definate bias in the judging towards China. Americans were hit harder for thier mistakes while China’s were either overlooked or lightly penalized for thiers.

BTW, was it me or did those Chinese girls (most) just totally lack in grace and fluidity in thier routines.


37 posted on 08/13/2008 4:31:17 AM PDT by diverteach (http://foolishpleasurestudio.com/eyewool/slap_hillary.html)
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To: The KG9 Kid

I’ve worked with Chinese women who I know were 30-40 years old who looked like they were twelve.

Gotta agree. For years after I graduated HS, I was constantly being stopped by the cops as I walked to work and questioned about why I wasn’t in school. I was small, skinny and looked young. I wasn’t alone. When you’re older, you appreciate a youthful look, but when you’re young and constantly being pestered for it, it is a pain.

A few years ago, I saw an article about medical problems that female gymnasts endure. Specifically, because of the rigorous training routines, there is a delay of puberty; a delay in the onset of menstration and breast development. ALL of the female gymnasts display this, but the desire in themselves - or their parents - for the GOLD MEDAL is a powerful force.

In short, I believe they are of age. The Chinese have a HUGE population to cull their athletes from. They don’t need to engage in deceit.

But this is a debate that goes on every Olympic cycle anyway. Unless you’re the first to cross the finish line, politics will be the ultimate judge of who won what event...


38 posted on 08/13/2008 4:32:31 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: BJungNan
When watching the Olympics we are not looking at photos that have flat lighting that hides any wrinkles and where only the face is showing.

We are looking at full motion video from multiple angles that is not taken in flattering lighting.

My wife is from Asia and grew up there, and all her relatives are Asian, including her two nieces that she helped raise from infancy.

Neither she nor I believe the claim that all the girls are at least 16.

39 posted on 08/13/2008 4:36:07 AM PDT by ikka
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To: BJungNan

I will assume for your argument this young lady is over 16. I would guess 22. You win. The olympians must be 16, although the baby teeth is a problem.


40 posted on 08/13/2008 4:38:09 AM PDT by healy61
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To: diverteach

they have the immaturity of their dance moves, because they are so young

just like ice skating, the young ones can make the jumps, but their presentation is not as dazzling (mature) as the older skaters


41 posted on 08/13/2008 4:42:41 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: Paisan
I’ve worked with Chinese women who I know were 30-40 years old who looked like they were twelve.

Are you indicating your inability to judge ages? No woman on earth could make her look like 12 when she is 30. This is far from common sense.

42 posted on 08/13/2008 4:45:11 AM PDT by hobbitslikepotatoes
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To: joinedafterattack

And if they lose, their parent are sent to the mines.


43 posted on 08/13/2008 4:47:10 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: joinedafterattack
I am not mad that the country I am routing for (United States)...

Is the author in shipping/receiving or just a lousy speller?

44 posted on 08/13/2008 4:49:56 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: machogirl

Whether the Chinese team had members younger than 16 is moot. The U.S. team can file an appeal if it has proof. But, what’s worse for the U.S.? Getting beat by 16-year-old Chinese or getting beat by 14-year-old Chinese? If the Chinese gymnasts were underage and had a couple more years to practice, I’m assuming the American team would have been beaten worse. The Chinese did routines with higher degrees of difficulty and the Americans choked at the wrong time.


45 posted on 08/13/2008 4:50:22 AM PDT by MississippiMasterpiece
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To: diverteach

“BTW, was it me or did those Chinese girls (most) just totally lack in grace and fluidity in thier routines.”

I noticed that too. They seemed very “mechanical” to me.


46 posted on 08/13/2008 4:50:25 AM PDT by dis.kevin
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To: joinedafterattack
These girls looked like little alien creatures to me. Anybody can buy a fake passport. Theirs were surely given to them (with the required modifications). Congratulations China. At least you didn't invade a sovereign nation during the games.
47 posted on 08/13/2008 4:51:24 AM PDT by McGruff (Kick Russia out of the G8, Kick them Now!)
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To: BJungNan

25 but what’s your point?


48 posted on 08/13/2008 4:52:28 AM PDT by McGruff (Kick Russia out of the G8, Kick them Now!)
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To: joinedafterattack

I’m sure watching the Chinese gymnastics team is quite stimulating, for pedophiles.


49 posted on 08/13/2008 4:53:58 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: McGruff
Congratulations China. At least you didn't invade a sovereign nation during the games.

Games ain't over yet, greenhorn.

50 posted on 08/13/2008 4:54:37 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("You don't eat meat, and drive electrical cars. Ur so gay, you don't even like boys.")
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