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Judge Says University Can Deny Course Credit to Christian Graduates Taught With Creationism Texts
Fox News ^ | August 13, 2008

Posted on 08/13/2008 9:44:45 AM PDT by Sopater

A federal judge has ruled the University of California can deny course credit to Christian high school graduates who have been taught with textbooks that reject evolution and declare the Bible infallible, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

U.S. District Judge James Otero of Los Angeles ruled Friday that the school's review committees did not discriminate against Christians because of religious viewpoints when it denied credit to those taught with certain religious textbooks, but instead made a legitimate claim that the texts failed to teach critical thinking and omitted important science and history topics.

Charles Robinson, the university's vice president for legal affairs, told the Chronicle that the ruling "confirms that UC may apply the same admissions standards to all students and to all high schools without regard to their religious affiliations."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: academia; atheismandstate; christianschools; confesstothestate; creation; creationism; education; evolution; heresy; highereducation; homeschool; judiciary; publikskoolz; ruling; uc
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Students should be able to challenge the courses for which they are denied credit. This is rediculous.

Here we go again...

1 posted on 08/13/2008 9:44:45 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Rack one up for the thought police. Regulation of the mind — the next big government program.


2 posted on 08/13/2008 9:48:24 AM PDT by Juan Medén
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You wouldn’t be complaining if they didn’t get science credit for a class in scientology.


3 posted on 08/13/2008 9:49:46 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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“Judge Says University Can Deny Course Credit to Christian Graduates Taught With Creationism Texts”

But full credits for courses centered on the Global Warming Hoax, the Benefits of a Marxist society, the cultural equivalence of Western civilisation and that of naked savages in Africa, and of course the great historical and ongoing evil that is the United States....


4 posted on 08/13/2008 9:50:14 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Sopater

My son is starting high school at a Christian school in California today. His school uses secular text for the regular classes, and puts a Christian spin on the cousework. They have a separate Bible class.

I have mixed opinions about this. Not sure what to make of the ruling.


5 posted on 08/13/2008 9:50:37 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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“but instead made a legitimate claim that the texts failed to teach critical thinking and omitted important science and history topics.”

Yea, like public schools (and their texts) are on any more solid ground in the areas of critical thinking and important science and history topics. sheesh


6 posted on 08/13/2008 9:51:40 AM PDT by DonaldC
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His school uses secular text for the regular classes, and puts a Christian spin on the cousework.

What do they teach regarding the age of the earth and Genesis?
7 posted on 08/13/2008 9:52:51 AM PDT by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecc 10:2 (NASB))
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IOW, Bible-believing Christians need not apply to many institutions of higher learning.

Evolution is one expression of the (false) occult doctrine of becoming (like God). See Genesis 3:1-4 for the author of this doctrine.

Is it realistic to expect God to bless America while we are rejecting Him?


8 posted on 08/13/2008 9:53:17 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Soliton

I certainly get your point, and I agree.

I almost feel like if a kid is trying to get to a UC school, then they should follow the coursework that is required.

College is optional, so no one is forcing these kids to go to a UC school.


9 posted on 08/13/2008 9:53:35 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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Hey, does this apply to Muslims as well? Do they have Muslim high schools here? What about if they studied in their home country and come over here?


10 posted on 08/13/2008 9:53:38 AM PDT by autumnraine
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The dogmatic war on creationism continues...

They know that evolution will shudder and collapse if students were exposed to the flimsy evidence.


11 posted on 08/13/2008 9:53:57 AM PDT by Elpasser
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When a HS graduate gives a commencement speech that mentions Jesus, the state is establishing a religion and the students right to free speech and expression of religion must be denied. When a state college decrees there is no god, the state is not establishing a religion. Something ain’t right there.


12 posted on 08/13/2008 9:54:46 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Sopater

To be expanded to include those taught that homosexuality is an unnatural desire and deny of the myth of man-made global climate change?


13 posted on 08/13/2008 9:55:03 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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Students should be able to challenge the courses for which they are denied credit.

Challenge question #1: How old is the Earth?

14 posted on 08/13/2008 9:55:48 AM PDT by ColdWater
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...but instead made a legitimate claim that the texts failed to teach critical thinking ...

Apparently, questioning the infallibility of the working hypothesis of 'goo to you' macroevolution is a failure to teach critical thinking.
Whereas the ability to regurgitate secular dogma is.

15 posted on 08/13/2008 9:55:58 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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Will Scientologists be forced to recant their beliefs in order to attend school without taking remedial courses?
16 posted on 08/13/2008 9:56:19 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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I think they are more intelligent design in that they teach that God created the universe, and that it has been around for a long time. Then they just go into science. I know they teach things like Carbon dating, etc.

Right now, I don’t now how they’ll handle creationism in the classroom. I’m sure they will be respectful of Christians that have differing views.


17 posted on 08/13/2008 9:57:15 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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My son took the courses he had to to go to a particular school.


18 posted on 08/13/2008 9:58:16 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: ColdWater

If you believe that God created the world, then you believe in “creationism” no matter whether it is “old world” or “young Earth”. The age is a detail. No one is even supposed to acknowledge God anymore.


19 posted on 08/13/2008 9:58:20 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: SecAmndmt

Nothing in the theory of evolution through natural selection infers implies or states that any living organism will ever become “like God”. How faulty must your understanding of the subject must be to reach such an erroneous conclusion?


20 posted on 08/13/2008 10:00:47 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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