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Bush Orders Military to Deliver Aid to Georgia
Fox News ^ | 08-13-08

Posted on 08/13/2008 11:52:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

President Bush has directed the U.S. military to lead a humanitarian mission to Georgia where tens of thousands have been forced out of their homes following a Russian invasion last week that has been described by Georgia's president as an "ethnic cleansing."

A U.S. C-17 aircraft with humanitarian supplies already has arrived in the Georgian capital of Tbilisi and another C-17 will arrive there Thursday with additional medical and humanitarian aid, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said after the president's announcement.

Speaking from the White House Rose Garden with Defense Secretary Bob Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Bush said the aid mission will be "vigorous and ongoing." He warned Russia not to interfere.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bush; geopolitics; georgia; humanitarianrelief; notbreaking; oldnews; putinisevil; russia; supportthetroops; usmilitary; war
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God bless then and protect them.
1 posted on 08/13/2008 11:52:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie
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To: MNJohnnie

Amen to that.


2 posted on 08/13/2008 11:53:42 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: MNJohnnie

Wonder how long before Mother Russia sees this as “U.S. Aggression?”

I’ll add a, “God Bless Our Military” as well.


3 posted on 08/13/2008 11:55:18 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: MNJohnnie
How about putting in some military aid destined for Israel onto the same plans and intentionally-inadvertently unloading said cargo in Georgia?

I think we should do the same to Tibet as well. I don't know why everyone chants "Free Tibet"... a better slogan is "Arm Tibet".

4 posted on 08/13/2008 11:55:48 AM PDT by Frohickey
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To: MNJohnnie
How about putting in some military aid destined for Israel onto the same plans and intentionally-inadvertently unloading said cargo in Georgia?

I think we should do the same to Tibet as well. I don't know why everyone chants "Free Tibet"... a better slogan is "Arm Tibet".

5 posted on 08/13/2008 11:55:52 AM PDT by Frohickey
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To: MNJohnnie

OK, so if it is so vigorous, why does it take a day to get a second flight in? And, why in the heck should we have to pay for supplies to patch up people and things that the bear damaged?


6 posted on 08/13/2008 11:56:58 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Now this is an improvement. We should have did this days ago.


7 posted on 08/13/2008 11:59:26 AM PDT by Maelstorm (John McCain is ready to be commander in chief)
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To: MNJohnnie

Anyone seen any aid from the EU or UN yet?


8 posted on 08/13/2008 11:59:51 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: ichabod1

You mean you don’t see air quotes around the word humanitarian? I do.


9 posted on 08/13/2008 12:00:50 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: ichabod1

Probably cause we don’t have an C-17 anywhere near there and it takes time to gather, load and fly the supplies in.


10 posted on 08/13/2008 12:02:26 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: nhoward14

Oh, I see the air quotes. I said on another thread that I wish we were sending in our “humanitarian” marines.


11 posted on 08/13/2008 12:04:26 PM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: nhoward14
"You mean you don’t see air quotes around the word humanitarian? I do."

So do I, God Help Us.

Does anyone else think that we encouraged Georgia to undertake a suicide mission by attacking S. Ossetia, just so that we'd have an excuse to go to war with Russia?

12 posted on 08/13/2008 12:04:40 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Onward!


13 posted on 08/13/2008 12:04:54 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: ichabod1

Because nobody else will.


14 posted on 08/13/2008 12:05:13 PM PDT by Righter-than-Rush
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To: Frohickey

military aid destined for Israel

Israeli lobby? Sometime, someplace a wacko liberals is gonna say this is a war for Israel.


15 posted on 08/13/2008 12:05:43 PM PDT by griswold3 (Al qaeda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: MNJohnnie
President Bush has directed the U.S. military to lead a humanitarian mission to Georgia
Terrific, the American fighting man once again forced to being just another employee of Meals on Wheels.
WTH is the UN?
16 posted on 08/13/2008 12:06:17 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: MNJohnnie

Good! He should send military aid.

He is being tested by Putin and his responses are being closely watched by our enemies.


17 posted on 08/13/2008 12:06:20 PM PDT by sport
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To: MNJohnnie

Anyone watch a guy by the name of Tracy Dove on cspan the other morning? He is a “russian expert” and a “professor”. He said that, following Bush’s initial statement on the situation, we will not here any more from Bush. Guess the expert was wrong.


18 posted on 08/13/2008 12:07:15 PM PDT by Post5203 (Leadership requires vision. Our current cast of D.C. clowns has none.)
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To: Bokababe

No


19 posted on 08/13/2008 12:09:40 PM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: Bokababe

Of course not. IMHO, that’s like saying we bombed the Towers to start a war with Iraq.

Russia has done things like this all throughout its history. My Dad lived through World War II and has been telling me for years that Russia was just biding its time until it started trying to take over Europe again.


20 posted on 08/13/2008 12:09:59 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: MNJohnnie

Gotcha. I should not breeze over logistical challenges. Logistics: probably the most important, and least appreciated part of any military.

That said, it seems like 24 hours is a long time before getting another flight going, especially since this one seemed to go in lickety split.

One can imagine, though, that the President’s hand may have been forced a bit in terms of the timing of this announcement out of a desire to forestall the bear from overrunning the whole country. IOW, he might have rather waited until the logistical train was more firmly lined up, Condi was in the air, etc.

Or, hopefully, Doleeza. Cedric the Entertainer had a comedy bit about Condi, the good girl, the class president, and her dark side, Doleeza, who would rip your head off and spit down your neck.


21 posted on 08/13/2008 12:10:18 PM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Pucker factor.... high.

/johnny

22 posted on 08/13/2008 12:10:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: MNJohnnie

“And the Devil went down to Georgia...”


23 posted on 08/13/2008 12:11:13 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: griswold3
Israeli lobby? Sometime, someplace a wacko liberals is gonna say this is a war for Israel.

They've been saying that for days, based on the fact that Israel is sending aid and has supported Georgia with arms and training in the past.

24 posted on 08/13/2008 12:11:33 PM PDT by SJackson (Sell San Francisco to China to finance Obama health care, Bill O'Reilly)
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To: MNJohnnie
Saakashvili said the U.S. and West underestimated Russia's regional ambitions and warned that "America's reputation here, since (the) Cold War, is going to hell now."

I don't know what to believe. I just read today that Saakashii, mentored by the US and Europe, was advised to play it cool with the Russians -- but he didn't and became reckless or overly confident. Putin probably thinks that the US is more interested in the threat of Iran, where Putin is suppose to help the US, but now at the price of giving up on Georgia.

25 posted on 08/13/2008 12:11:34 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: MNJohnnie
A better “humantarian” exercise might be a US aircraft carrier, just off the coast, with a few “humantarian” aircraft loaded up to the max with “humantarian” weapons of ahh...self defense.
26 posted on 08/13/2008 12:13:25 PM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: Old Sarge

“And the Devil went down to Georgia...”

Who gets to be Johnny?


27 posted on 08/13/2008 12:13:59 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth amendments?)
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To: Bokababe

No. That just flat doesn’t make sense.


28 posted on 08/13/2008 12:14:08 PM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: MNJohnnie

29 posted on 08/13/2008 12:15:28 PM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism)
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To: MNJohnnie

lets help the Georgians do some BEAR HUNTING!!! (see my tagline!!)


30 posted on 08/13/2008 12:16:11 PM PDT by EagleandLiberty (it is time to go BEAR hunting in Georgia, so other REPUBLICS can be safe!!)
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To: alarm rider
Good Point

There is nothing more humanitarian than a Super Hornet.....:*)
31 posted on 08/13/2008 12:17:08 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Axis of Evil = Iran , North Korea , Midget Mac)
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To: MNJohnnie

Putin is evil!

BTTT!


32 posted on 08/13/2008 12:17:53 PM PDT by airborne (American by birth! Christian by choice!)
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To: Bokababe

The proper way to end a comment like yours is “/sarcasm”. Otherwise people are dumbfounded thinking you’re serious.


33 posted on 08/13/2008 12:18:14 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureĀ™)
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To: MNJohnnie

God bless then and protect them.

Ditto! Godspeed!


34 posted on 08/13/2008 12:20:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: airborne

ras-Putin is a reptile.


35 posted on 08/13/2008 12:20:15 PM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: alarm rider

hard to get a carrier thru the straits, I don’t think anyone has ever done it. The Black sea has been Russia’s personal playground for so long, they would raise the defcon status if we put any major combatants in there.


36 posted on 08/13/2008 12:21:29 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: MNJohnnie
Let the games begin..............

It's the only way to set up a proper trip wire and force them to back out or risk a real serious confrontation.

37 posted on 08/13/2008 12:22:54 PM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: MNJohnnie

You know how dumb the air force logistics guys can be. Oops, how did this ammo and javelins and stuff get in with the HUMRATS. at least it’s not an ICBM warhead.


38 posted on 08/13/2008 12:23:29 PM PDT by jjm2111 (Are we going to have a Daily Dose of McCain?)
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To: MNJohnnie
Maybe this is the reason Russia has agreed to a cease-fire because they do not want a direct open conflict with the US.
39 posted on 08/13/2008 12:24:00 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: MNJohnnie

How come Georgia isn’t complaining like New Orleans was cuz the response is so slow?

- oh wait...nevermind


40 posted on 08/13/2008 12:24:32 PM PDT by rdax
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To: MNJohnnie

It would nice to see them drop candies for the children.


41 posted on 08/13/2008 12:24:42 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: MNJohnnie
God bless then and protect them.

Those are the exact words I uttered when I heard about this.

God, please keep them all safe.

42 posted on 08/13/2008 12:25:45 PM PDT by Allegra (Goodness me, goodness me, industrial disease...)
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To: Bokababe
Does anyone else think that we encouraged Georgia to undertake a suicide mission by attacking S. Ossetia, just so that we'd have an excuse to go to war with Russia?

Absolutely not.

43 posted on 08/13/2008 12:27:25 PM PDT by Allegra (Goodness me, goodness me, industrial disease...)
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To: MNJohnnie

Plus, Georgia is 9 hours ahead of us. It’s almost tomorrow there now.


44 posted on 08/13/2008 12:27:50 PM PDT by TnGOP (Petey the dog is my foriegn policy advisor. He's really quite good!)
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To: nhoward14
"Of course not. IMHO, that’s like saying we bombed the Towers to start a war with Iraq.

Sorry, nothing personal but that's like comparing apples and oranges.

Facts are that S. Ossetia has been relatively stable since the early 1990's until the last few years when there have been clashes. But Georgia was the one launch the attack on S. Ossetia that spurred Russia to act in response -- and that was completely predictable -- like a Chihuahua set loose on a Rottweiler, everyone knew what the outcome would be.

Georgia is so far into our pocket that doesn't burp without US permission, so why would we allow (or encourage) such a move, knowing that it would mean one of our allies getting mauled?

I know that Russia is militarily a real bastard. That's not a question mark. It's one of the few things about them that is predictable. But I have yet to figure out why Georgia would throw itself in front of the Russian bus, for no good reason -- because S. Ossetia and Abkhasia doesn't really mean that much to Georgia, socially, religiously or economically. So why would Georgia subject itself to such punishment for no good reason?

45 posted on 08/13/2008 12:28:04 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Wonder how long before Mother Russia/Obama campaign/MSM sees this as “U.S. Aggression?”.
There now, fixed.
46 posted on 08/13/2008 12:30:22 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: ClayinVA

Yeah, I see your point. Perhaps a carrier group off the coast of Greece, with a few fly overs or something.

Personally, I don’t think air lifts alone will do much to get the attention of the Bear. And I don’t think Europe can or will do anything much.


47 posted on 08/13/2008 12:30:26 PM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: Bokababe
Does anyone else think that we encouraged Georgia to undertake a suicide mission by attacking S. Ossetia, just so that we'd have an excuse to go to war with Russia?

Tinfoil hat, drugs, lots of beer. Step away from the computer, radio, tv for a while. These all might help.

I have a wild imagination, but I think your theory is nuts.

48 posted on 08/13/2008 12:33:50 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (NOBAMA - it is for our future)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Wonder how long before Mother Russia/Obama campaign/MSM sees this as “U.S. Aggression?”.

Oh, the Drive-Bys are already blaming the US for Russia's acts and praising Lord Barry over John McCain's "shoot from the hip" diplomacy. Rush played a clip.
49 posted on 08/13/2008 12:34:31 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: alarm rider

That’s one of the problems with this situation. We can’t get an aircraft carrier into the black sea. We don’t have any clear path for our planes to fly through except maybe Turkey and that might be dicey to get permission to fly through their airspace.

If we wanted to do air support type of stuff (for combat missions), we would have to get their permission to fly through their airspace and probably do it out of Incirlick. Of course, if Georgia was a part of NATO, Turkey (a member of NATO) would have to give us permission.


50 posted on 08/13/2008 12:34:59 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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