Skip to comments.BREAKING: "Obama" Soetoro lied to the Illinois State Supreme Court
Posted on 08/13/2008 6:38:38 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
Tatan Syuflana, of the Associated Press, took this photograph, showing that "Obama" attended school in Indonesia, as Barry Soetoro, with religion listed as "Islam":
But "Obama" told the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of the State of Illinois that he had never had another name:
Well a pretty big 'something' is that AP says the school provided the document and THEY certainly claim to know which Barry Soetero/Barack Hussein Obambi they had in their school. THere are reunion photos of Barry's classmates getting back together to celebrate his prominence -- a switch could not be pulled off on all of those Indonesian adults who say they went to school with 'our' Obama...... they would know if it was not 'their' Barry Soetero.
Do you want to compare starting dates at FR? Track down my posts if you want. I was content to discuss my point of view, but I’ll not stoop to baseless name calling.
Leaving this school:
A. Not yet finished. Reason: Move
C. Continue to _____
This is a registration card for when he exited from that school, not when he entered the Catholic school.
The left cares. They want the precedent. It will come out after a year or two of a Hussein O’Bama presidency. The Demo legislature will formalize it. The O’Bama Court will declare that clause in the Constitution to mean that foreigners are eligible so long as they say they are Americans based on a law passed in the Tuvalu parliament.
In other words don't attack because the other side may do what? Fight back? So what? That's a strategy for cowards and fools. McCain won't be tied to it anyway because he has no intentions of attacking him in this area nor does he need to. That's what teams and surrogates are all about.
I say attack on all fronts with anything and everything. Its called politics.
Your point of view is meant to disrupt these exchanges. Your questions have been met with answers from me and you just move to another post and badger other people.
If you want more information then go to the following blog which is maintained by a Democrat who doesn’t want to see her party or her country taken over by communists.
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, he was a muslim too...
His stepfather is listed on the form as well. AFAIK, the stepfather didn't have another son named "Barry". It would be rather odd for an Indonesian.
Others will say -- well he's not fully committed until he's some age older than he was in the school.
Other folks will say his heart was turned to Jesus.
Still others will say his lips turned but his heart is muslim.
Or his lips turned but his heart is marxist, or black liberation theology-ist.
Whatever. The point is he lied about it. He adamantly denies a fixed point of his own childhood.
You have your point of view, I disagree. if I am incorrect I’ll be man enough to post an apology to all who have civily and uncivily disagreed with me. That’s all I have to say on this subject.
Obama didn’t stick to issues or proposals in his first eletion. He used the rules to see that he was the only person left to vote for. Latter on when he ran for the US Senate the Chicago Tribune took out his opponent and he ran against a carpetbagger who had joke campaign. At this point in time I don’t care what it takes to beat him. He has it coming and I say we hit him with everything we got.
Dirty Barack Obama
Hey, That’s my name too. Who da thought! ;-)
The name is there, but only for the father. It is listed as "L. Soetoro, MA". The mother's name is blank.
I think the answer is highly politically-incorrect, and, quite frankly, I need to be careful about how I phrase it because I don't want to get in trouble with the moderators here at FR.
But my guess is that "The Powers That Be" feel that if Obama were disqualified on a technicality, then the African-American [Black] community would just explode, with multiple outbursts around the nation akin to the Rodney King riots, and the Clintons probably felt that if they were seen as being responsible for the disqualification of Obama [on a technicality], then their careers in politics would be finished.
So I think the Clintons are trying to get someone else - namely those dastardly GOP operatives, who swift-boated John Kerry, and Willy-Hortoned Michael Dukakis - to get the disqualification movement going, and then the idea is that, at the very last moment, Hillary would ride in on a white horse as the Democrat savior:
Bill Clinton, given golden opportunity, fails to endorse Barack Obama
BY MICHAEL McAULIFF
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
Monday, August 4th 2008
..."I never was mad at Sen. Obama," Bubba said. "I think everybody's got a right to run for President who qualifies under the Constitution. And I'd be the last person to begrudge anybody their ambition"...
“The problem is - you cannot run for office under an alias. You must use your legal name.”
Maybe his name was never officially changed from BHO.
Don’t have to be any more actually around, just that there could be. You and I don’t have to be convinced. Some lawyers have to be convinced.
He was an adult when he wrote this passage in his book.
From Audacity of Hope: I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
Wait and see.
According to TexasDarlin, the evidence is that Soetoro is still his legal name from childhood (c. 1966), and his birth name Obama has become his alias.
Go to the following website for the information you need.
And Texas darlin is concerned about Hillary Clinton not communism. There is little in Hillary's programs that differ from the haloed one. She is my senator and i am not fooled by her working class hero campaign during the second half of the primaries. She is still the Hillary Clinton of It Takes a Village and "we need more social engineers".
Where's your tire gauge Barack...uh Barry? I don't think you can inflate your way out of this one.
That’s a plausible scenario.... thanks!
I’ll bet a six pack Hillary is behind this information.... It makes me wonder if good ol Hillary has more information to leak to the press prior to the DNC convention?
Honestly, Who the hell is this guy??? Who will he be next week???
It was a Non-demoninational school. The staff was Catholic but accepted all religions (unlike a madrassa).
Barry Soetoro's (Barack Obama's) father registered him, stating his religion as Islam. If the document is valid, and there is little reason to believe if it can be authenticated as originating from the school, then BarryBarrackHussienMohammedSoetoroObama has some "splain'in" to do.
There are a few reasons why this revelation is important. The lie on the bar app isn’t the big revelation here. Its the fact that Obambi’s name was legally changed to Barry Soetoro. This sheds light on the birth certificate kerfuffle. Its not too big a leap to assume that Obambi was actually adopted by his step father. Therefore, under Hawaiian law, Obambi’s original Obama certificate was sealed. Then we have the mystery of Obambi’s current name. How did he get it? Was there a legal proceeding to change, was he adopted by his grand parents? Not known. But it probably means that Barry was an Indonesian citizen. We don’t know if he had to renounce his US Citizenship, but Indonesia requires renunciation of prior citizenship. Next, did he have an Indo passport? Did he use it after he was 18? If so, it could be considered an affirmation of his Indo citizenship. Now we also understand why the US passport database was breached by an Obambi operative. Was he getting rid of the incriminating data about Obambi’s travels? Don’t know that yet. All in all, Barry has some splainin to do.
More Democrats than Texasdarlin are on her blog!
What responses would you find satisfactory? Evidence is piling up about Obama and how he has misrepresented himself. What more do you need?
Personally I best like what I read on the FR about the name the Indian tribe gave to him when he visited and spoke to them. They named him - “Walking Eagle.” The Chief told someone later what that meant (in their tribal language). It meant: A bird who cannot fly because he is full of oomagallaga. To me, that clears up the “empty suit” thought about B.O., B.H.O., B.S. and suits him just perfectly - whatever his name is on papers wherever.
Although we did have Clinton, who did that same sort of thing... and is also a “stepchild” of questionable real parentage.
I guess for some...it would take finding Barry sitting in a cave with Osama looking over wall maps of DC and New York.
What you are missing in all this is that the School Register entry adds weight to the suggestion that the COLB posted on his own website is a forgery.
That is the issue.
If he forged a government document and then tried to pass it off on the American people in an attempt to conceal his past then clearly he cannot serve as President.
What name he did or did not go by is moot.
"It's the dishonesty, stupid"
I missed this earlier, thanks.
He hasn't got it yet. And Edwards has just been severely pilloried in the media for the last few days for being a first class liar. I've been wondering for those last few days, why did Johnny admit it now? The answer would be, Hillary's flying monkeys timed it for now, by showing him evidence. Blinky gets it out on the night the Olympics open up, thinking that it gets muffled in the other news. And Hildebeest then re-establishes the precedent that lying should get you nailed, witness how the MSM has been beating itself up for ignoring the Edwards story.
Her Thighness always picks the right time to let the evidence tumble out. She's an accomplished attorney, herself.
This is the woman with the pile of contacts and FBI files.
Since Barry was an absolute nobody the last time the Beest would have had a hoof on the FBI files, I'm going with the pile of contacts on this one.
That's my name too!
He's not the Hussein I knew :(
Maybe the real Obama is Dead? Maybe the Muslim, Barry, is Dead? Who is this guy???????
To me, the issue isn't so much that he was a practicing Muslim in his youth (though by most accounts loosely and intermittently at best). As others have pointed out, he was honest about that in his autobiographical book, though he only briefly touched on it.
The issue is that his campaign now stoutly maintains that he was NEVER a Muslim. From his famous 'fightthesmears' web site:
Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, [and] was not raised as a Muslim
We know from his autobiography and from scores of articles about his mother that she was an agnostic at best. If he was not a Muslim, the form would have said "none". It doesn't. It is possible that his stepfather registered him as a Muslim on his own initiative. But Lolo Soetoro was described as "much more of a free spirit than a devout Muslim, according to former friends and neighbors" in this Chicago Tribune article.
The same article goes on to describe the Muslim school as being "a public school, so progressive that teachers wore miniskirts and all students were encouraged to celebrate Christmas." But this would probably have been the norm in urban Indonesia at that time, where the Islam practiced by most was extremely moderate.
Nevertheless, the point remains: he was for all intents and purposes a Muslim at this one point in his life - and yet his campaign now says he was never a Muslim.
But will it go anywhere? The MSM does NOT care one whit.
-—>No, Barack Sr abandoned the “family” much,much earlier that that, and it is not known for certain whether he was even present for the birth- Barack Jr was born (somewhere) in August of 1961...<———————
This sounds like the most plausible situation befitting the the Senior Barack’s lifestyle. A roving sperm-depositer who impregnates and moves on to satisfy his personal ambitions and lust for flesh. Stanley Ann fell quickly in love with a much older “sophisticated exotic socialist African college-man.” Barack Senior took advantage of an under-age white American girl. And I wonder how many other girls as well?
Is there any proof he hung around after the affair? Are there photos, records, or letters that keep him in any contact with the Dunhams besides the airport photos a decade later?
That is not her
No-no, I’m asking what YOU would find compelling proof that Obama could be knocked out of contention for the Presidency?
I’ll bet it was date rape where Obama was concieved