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BREAKING: "Obama" Soetoro lied to the Illinois State Supreme Court
TexasDarlin, Tatan Syuflana, Associated Press, Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission ^ | 2008-08-13 | TexasDarlin,

Posted on 08/13/2008 6:38:38 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee

Tatan Syuflana, of the Associated Press, took this photograph, showing that "Obama" attended school in Indonesia, as Barry Soetoro, with religion listed as "Islam":

But "Obama" told the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of the State of Illinois that he had never had another name:



TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Illinois
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To: rwfromkansas
"they know it is Obama based upon something"

Well a pretty big 'something' is that AP says the school provided the document and THEY certainly claim to know which Barry Soetero/Barack Hussein Obambi they had in their school. THere are reunion photos of Barry's classmates getting back together to celebrate his prominence -- a switch could not be pulled off on all of those Indonesian adults who say they went to school with 'our' Obama...... they would know if it was not 'their' Barry Soetero.

101 posted on 08/13/2008 7:56:04 PM PDT by Enchante (If oil was botox then Nancy Pelosi would have us drilling everywhere!!! (hat tip, STARWISE))
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To: SatinDoll

Do you want to compare starting dates at FR? Track down my posts if you want. I was content to discuss my point of view, but I’ll not stoop to baseless name calling.


102 posted on 08/13/2008 7:56:38 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Translation for Line # 10:

Leaving this school:

A. Not yet finished. Reason: Move

B. Finished.

C. Continue to _____

This is a registration card for when he exited from that school, not when he entered the Catholic school.

103 posted on 08/13/2008 7:58:34 PM PDT by paudio (Kerry had Global Test, Obama has Global Tax.)
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To: driftdiver

The left cares. They want the precedent. It will come out after a year or two of a Hussein O’Bama presidency. The Demo legislature will formalize it. The O’Bama Court will declare that clause in the Constitution to mean that foreigners are eligible so long as they say they are Americans based on a law passed in the Tuvalu parliament.


104 posted on 08/13/2008 7:58:54 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: xkaydet65
Maybe because the haloed one’s Chicago roots have an October Surprise to conclusively rebut these accusations and make those involved in spreading them look, not only foolish, but deceitful and vindictive. Creating a backlash against McCain, who will be blamed, and creating a groundswell of sympathy for the haloed one before Election day.

In other words don't attack because the other side may do what? Fight back? So what? That's a strategy for cowards and fools. McCain won't be tied to it anyway because he has no intentions of attacking him in this area nor does he need to. That's what teams and surrogates are all about.

I say attack on all fronts with anything and everything. Its called politics.

105 posted on 08/13/2008 7:59:07 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: xkaydet65

Your point of view is meant to disrupt these exchanges. Your questions have been met with answers from me and you just move to another post and badger other people.

If you want more information then go to the following blog which is maintained by a Democrat who doesn’t want to see her party or her country taken over by communists.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/


106 posted on 08/13/2008 8:01:28 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: machogirl

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, he was a muslim too...


107 posted on 08/13/2008 8:01:49 PM PDT by RadioCirca1970 (Welcome to the Terror Dome....)
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To: driftdiver
How do they know this was Obama?

His stepfather is listed on the form as well. AFAIK, the stepfather didn't have another son named "Barry". It would be rather odd for an Indonesian.

108 posted on 08/13/2008 8:01:52 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: rwfromkansas
You understand that folks with different religious backgrounds WILL have varying views on whether Obama is still a muslim. The strictest muslims will say he is always a muslim, once he has been a muslim. It doesn't matter what Obama says or thinks about it.

Others will say -- well he's not fully committed until he's some age older than he was in the school.

Other folks will say his heart was turned to Jesus.

Still others will say his lips turned but his heart is muslim.

Or his lips turned but his heart is marxist, or black liberation theology-ist.

Whatever. The point is he lied about it. He adamantly denies a fixed point of his own childhood.

That's weird.

109 posted on 08/13/2008 8:02:00 PM PDT by bvw
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To: plain talk

You have your point of view, I disagree. if I am incorrect I’ll be man enough to post an apology to all who have civily and uncivily disagreed with me. That’s all I have to say on this subject.


110 posted on 08/13/2008 8:02:36 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: Enchante
There are reunion photos of Barry's classmates getting back together to celebrate his prominence -

  Photobucket

111 posted on 08/13/2008 8:03:18 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: xkaydet65

Obama didn’t stick to issues or proposals in his first eletion. He used the rules to see that he was the only person left to vote for. Latter on when he ran for the US Senate the Chicago Tribune took out his opponent and he ran against a carpetbagger who had joke campaign. At this point in time I don’t care what it takes to beat him. He has it coming and I say we hit him with everything we got.

Dirty Barack Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Ned5TQoW4


112 posted on 08/13/2008 8:03:35 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: machogirl

Hey, That’s my name too. Who da thought! ;-)


113 posted on 08/13/2008 8:04:25 PM PDT by coincheck (Pray for my oldest son, he is in Iraq. Keeping us free.)
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To: arthurus
I can barely see Barry Soetoro but no parents' names on this very lo-res picture.

The name is there, but only for the father. It is listed as "L. Soetoro, MA". The mother's name is blank.

114 posted on 08/13/2008 8:05:02 PM PDT by paudio (Kerry had Global Test, Obama has Global Tax.)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

obumpa


115 posted on 08/13/2008 8:05:31 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: VictoryGal
Hillary’s flying monkeys are everywhere. Don’t you think the Clinton hit squad would have found this out and used it to nuke Obama before he captured the nomination?

I think the answer is highly politically-incorrect, and, quite frankly, I need to be careful about how I phrase it because I don't want to get in trouble with the moderators here at FR.

But my guess is that "The Powers That Be" feel that if Obama were disqualified on a technicality, then the African-American [Black] community would just explode, with multiple outbursts around the nation akin to the Rodney King riots, and the Clintons probably felt that if they were seen as being responsible for the disqualification of Obama [on a technicality], then their careers in politics would be finished.

So I think the Clintons are trying to get someone else - namely those dastardly GOP operatives, who swift-boated John Kerry, and Willy-Hortoned Michael Dukakis - to get the disqualification movement going, and then the idea is that, at the very last moment, Hillary would ride in on a white horse as the Democrat savior:

Bill Clinton, given golden opportunity, fails to endorse Barack Obama
BY MICHAEL McAULIFF
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
Monday, August 4th 2008
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/08/04/2008-08-04_bill_clinton_given_golden_opportunity_fa.html

..."I never was mad at Sen. Obama," Bubba said. "I think everybody's got a right to run for President who qualifies under the Constitution. And I'd be the last person to begrudge anybody their ambition"...


116 posted on 08/13/2008 8:06:15 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: SatinDoll

“The problem is - you cannot run for office under an alias. You must use your legal name.”

Maybe his name was never officially changed from BHO.


117 posted on 08/13/2008 8:06:59 PM PDT by cw35
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To: Fudd Fan

Don’t have to be any more actually around, just that there could be. You and I don’t have to be convinced. Some lawyers have to be convinced.


118 posted on 08/13/2008 8:08:07 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: bvw

He was an adult when he wrote this passage in his book.

From Audacity of Hope: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”


119 posted on 08/13/2008 8:08:09 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: patriot08
Watch for The Gasbag to spout some nonsense about how he had this story all along, and refused to release it for some ridiculous reason.

Wait and see.


120 posted on 08/13/2008 8:09:33 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: coconutt2000
I imagine he’ll pull a Bill Clinton and claim that he didn’t technically have another name, as his legal name remained Barack Hussein Obama, and that his name “Soetoro” was a legal alias.

According to TexasDarlin, the evidence is that Soetoro is still his legal name from childhood (c. 1966), and his birth name Obama has become his alias.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/is-his-legal-name-obama-or-soetoro-act-now/

121 posted on 08/13/2008 8:11:35 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: cw35

Go to the following website for the information you need.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/


122 posted on 08/13/2008 8:11:46 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: SatinDoll
My point of view is just that, my point of view. It is hardly disruptive and certainly not emotional. If you feel that way you may certainly message Jim Robinson and seek to have me banned. It has been my belief that a thread is for discussion and that competing ideas are welcome. And no, I have been provided responses about why this line of attack is correct, but none of those responses do I find satisfactory. I do retain the right to disagree.

And Texas darlin is concerned about Hillary Clinton not communism. There is little in Hillary's programs that differ from the haloed one. She is my senator and i am not fooled by her working class hero campaign during the second half of the primaries. She is still the Hillary Clinton of It Takes a Village and "we need more social engineers".

123 posted on 08/13/2008 8:12:23 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
I think I mentioned earlier that the original COLB might have had no father of record listed, JJ. Hence the adoption COLB by Lolo Soretoro when he married Ann Dunham.

124 posted on 08/13/2008 8:12:31 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
"Obama" Soetoro lied to the Illinois State Supreme Court

Rut-Roh!!!

Where's your tire gauge Barack...uh Barry? I don't think you can inflate your way out of this one.

125 posted on 08/13/2008 8:19:13 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

That’s a plausible scenario.... thanks!


126 posted on 08/13/2008 8:20:09 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

I’ll bet a six pack Hillary is behind this information.... It makes me wonder if good ol Hillary has more information to leak to the press prior to the DNC convention?


127 posted on 08/13/2008 8:20:46 PM PDT by Proangel (ASA Vet)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
How do you pin this guy down as to who he is?
He attends a church for 20 years, then says he didn't know it was run by a nut. He cant remember being a Muslim? I remember going to Catholic church when I was four years old. He cant recall being a 10 year old Muslim? They say his nickname is Barry because of his deep voice? But he was named Barry when he was two years Old?

Honestly, Who the hell is this guy??? Who will he be next week???

128 posted on 08/13/2008 8:22:25 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Lee'sGhost
>>>Thought the document in question was for a Catholic school.<<<

It was a Non-demoninational school. The staff was Catholic but accepted all religions (unlike a madrassa).

Barry Soetoro's (Barack Obama's) father registered him, stating his religion as Islam. If the document is valid, and there is little reason to believe if it can be authenticated as originating from the school, then BarryBarrackHussienMohammedSoetoroObama has some "splain'in" to do.

129 posted on 08/13/2008 8:23:32 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out O)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

There are a few reasons why this revelation is important. The lie on the bar app isn’t the big revelation here. Its the fact that Obambi’s name was legally changed to Barry Soetoro. This sheds light on the birth certificate kerfuffle. Its not too big a leap to assume that Obambi was actually adopted by his step father. Therefore, under Hawaiian law, Obambi’s original Obama certificate was sealed. Then we have the mystery of Obambi’s current name. How did he get it? Was there a legal proceeding to change, was he adopted by his grand parents? Not known. But it probably means that Barry was an Indonesian citizen. We don’t know if he had to renounce his US Citizenship, but Indonesia requires renunciation of prior citizenship. Next, did he have an Indo passport? Did he use it after he was 18? If so, it could be considered an affirmation of his Indo citizenship. Now we also understand why the US passport database was breached by an Obambi operative. Was he getting rid of the incriminating data about Obambi’s travels? Don’t know that yet. All in all, Barry has some splainin to do.


130 posted on 08/13/2008 8:25:07 PM PDT by appeal2 (Brilliance is typically the act of an individual, but great stupidity is reserved for the Gov't)
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To: xkaydet65

More Democrats than Texasdarlin are on her blog!

What responses would you find satisfactory? Evidence is piling up about Obama and how he has misrepresented himself. What more do you need?


131 posted on 08/13/2008 8:26:49 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Personally I best like what I read on the FR about the name the Indian tribe gave to him when he visited and spoke to them. They named him - “Walking Eagle.” The Chief told someone later what that meant (in their tribal language). It meant: A bird who cannot fly because he is full of oomagallaga. To me, that clears up the “empty suit” thought about B.O., B.H.O., B.S. and suits him just perfectly - whatever his name is on papers wherever.


132 posted on 08/13/2008 8:29:10 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Nothing wrong with being a bastard. Lots of good people have been. Not admitting it and making up some cock and bull story about it, that is not exactly the sort of behavior we want out of a President.

Although we did have Clinton, who did that same sort of thing... and is also a “stepchild” of questionable real parentage.

133 posted on 08/13/2008 8:30:20 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SatinDoll
What responses would you find satisfactory? Evidence is piling up about Obama and how he has misrepresented himself. What more do you need?

I guess for some...it would take finding Barry sitting in a cave with Osama looking over wall maps of  DC and New York. 

134 posted on 08/13/2008 8:31:12 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: xkaydet65
My mother could have enrolled me as John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt in first grade and I’d never know if she changed it back later. Let’s stick to his record, his proposals, his gaffes, and his arrogant sense of entitlement.

What you are missing in all this is that the School Register entry adds weight to the suggestion that the COLB posted on his own website is a forgery.

That is the issue.

If he forged a government document and then tried to pass it off on the American people in an attempt to conceal his past then clearly he cannot serve as President.

What name he did or did not go by is moot.

"It's the dishonesty, stupid"

135 posted on 08/13/2008 8:31:28 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

I missed this earlier, thanks.


136 posted on 08/13/2008 8:37:34 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Nailbiter

ping


137 posted on 08/13/2008 8:38:29 PM PDT by IncPen (We are but a moment's sunlight, fading in the grass ...)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
This is more serious than a lot of people may realize. There are security reasons this is asked on official documents.
138 posted on 08/13/2008 8:39:49 PM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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To: VictoryGal
Don’t you think the Clinton hit squad would have found this out and used it to nuke Obama before he captured the nomination?

He hasn't got it yet. And Edwards has just been severely pilloried in the media for the last few days for being a first class liar. I've been wondering for those last few days, why did Johnny admit it now? The answer would be, Hillary's flying monkeys timed it for now, by showing him evidence. Blinky gets it out on the night the Olympics open up, thinking that it gets muffled in the other news. And Hildebeest then re-establishes the precedent that lying should get you nailed, witness how the MSM has been beating itself up for ignoring the Edwards story.

Her Thighness always picks the right time to let the evidence tumble out. She's an accomplished attorney, herself.

This is the woman with the pile of contacts and FBI files.

Since Barry was an absolute nobody the last time the Beest would have had a hoof on the FBI files, I'm going with the pile of contacts on this one.

139 posted on 08/13/2008 8:43:01 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: Fudd Fan
Photobucket
140 posted on 08/13/2008 8:43:02 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Why be Europe?)
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To: xkaydet65
My mother could have enrolled me as John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt in first grade and I’d never know if she changed it back later.

That's my name too!

Regards,
GtG

141 posted on 08/13/2008 8:43:19 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: SatinDoll
WOW .... no record of name change? This is getting more serious by the minute.

He's not the Hussein I knew :(

Maybe the real Obama is Dead? Maybe the Muslim, Barry, is Dead? Who is this guy???????

142 posted on 08/13/2008 8:43:53 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: xkaydet65
Chasing rainbows are we. What was the haloed one 6, 7 years old when he was enrolled? He didn’t enroll himself. My mother could have enrolled me as John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt in first grade and I’d never know if she changed it back later. Let’s stick to his record, his proposals, his gaffes, and his arrogant sense of entitlement.

To me, the issue isn't so much that he was a practicing Muslim in his youth (though by most accounts loosely and intermittently at best). As others have pointed out, he was honest about that in his autobiographical book, though he only briefly touched on it.

The issue is that his campaign now stoutly maintains that he was NEVER a Muslim. From his famous 'fightthesmears' web site:

Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, [and] was not raised as a Muslim

We know from his autobiography and from scores of articles about his mother that she was an agnostic at best. If he was not a Muslim, the form would have said "none". It doesn't. It is possible that his stepfather registered him as a Muslim on his own initiative. But Lolo Soetoro was described as "much more of a free spirit than a devout Muslim, according to former friends and neighbors" in this Chicago Tribune article.

The same article goes on to describe the Muslim school as being "a public school, so progressive that teachers wore miniskirts and all students were encouraged to celebrate Christmas." But this would probably have been the norm in urban Indonesia at that time, where the Islam practiced by most was extremely moderate.

Nevertheless, the point remains: he was for all intents and purposes a Muslim at this one point in his life - and yet his campaign now says he was never a Muslim.

143 posted on 08/13/2008 8:44:11 PM PDT by Heatseeker (I'll vote McCain for President if I can vote Cheney for God)
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To: tobyhill

But will it go anywhere? The MSM does NOT care one whit.


144 posted on 08/13/2008 8:46:11 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Barry, IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
"Hers was a mind in full tilt"...
Ya think?

Photobucket
Stanley Ann Dunham
145 posted on 08/13/2008 8:48:17 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Why be Europe?)
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To: Peter Libra

-—>No, Barack Sr abandoned the “family” much,much earlier that that, and it is not known for certain whether he was even present for the birth- Barack Jr was born (somewhere) in August of 1961...<———————

This sounds like the most plausible situation befitting the the Senior Barack’s lifestyle. A roving sperm-depositer who impregnates and moves on to satisfy his personal ambitions and lust for flesh. Stanley Ann fell quickly in love with a much older “sophisticated exotic socialist African college-man.” Barack Senior took advantage of an under-age white American girl. And I wonder how many other girls as well?
Is there any proof he hung around after the affair? Are there photos, records, or letters that keep him in any contact with the Dunhams besides the airport photos a decade later?


146 posted on 08/13/2008 8:50:33 PM PDT by Gemsbok (shark- waiting, circling, tasting, fresh blood on the obamination trail)
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To: littlehouse36

That is not her


147 posted on 08/13/2008 8:50:55 PM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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To: 1035rep

No-no, I’m asking what YOU would find compelling proof that Obama could be knocked out of contention for the Presidency?


148 posted on 08/13/2008 8:51:39 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: Gemsbok

I’ll bet it was date rape where Obama was concieved


149 posted on 08/13/2008 8:52:10 PM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Oops!
150 posted on 08/13/2008 8:54:23 PM PDT by jennyjenny (Obama is for inflation)
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