Skip to comments.How much time have Obama's children spent with his grandmother?
Posted on 08/13/2008 7:20:15 PM PDT by airedale
On the news today I heard that Obama spent an hour alone with his grandmother at her place while the family was elsewhere. I know how much time my child spent with her grandparents who lived half way across the country when she was growing up (a lot. She spent summers with them for many years so she'd know them). The story got me wondering just how much time his kids have spent with his grandmother over the past years and of course by the end of this vacation. If they haven't spent much time with her you have to wonder why and her living in Hawaii at their income level isn't a good answer.
Perhaps Michelle does not get along with Mee Maw
Maybe Michelle’s family don’t want them getting to know a “whitey”, even if she is their grandmother.
Don’t try to inject traditional family values on a democrap.
Having children spend time with their grandparents is one of the most important gifts you can give to them (and to the grandparents.)
Hussein would not want his children to have to endure being in the same house with a white woman any more than the absolute minimum.
She lived to be a very elderly lady. Her father was a Civil War veteran - a Confederate captain of artillery. My great-grandfather died very young, but his father was also a Civil War veteran - a private in the Partisan Rangers. So I heard Civil War stories at only second-hand - how cool is THAT?
“how cool is that”
That is awesome.
Obama had to meet with his grandmother alone — he couldn’t risk having witnesses listening while he and Grandma got their birth certificate stories straight.
He hasn’t seen her in 18 months and he spends an hour with her? Wow, that was very munificent of him.
You're absolutely right. I was born in 1947, the last of four children. I never got to know any of my grandparents because they were all dead by the time I was born. Growing up on a street where many of our friends had their grandparents either living in the same house or next door, I always felt as if I had missed out on a very important part of life because I didn't have any grandparents like the other kids. I'm glad that at least my two sons had the benefit of knowing their grandparents before they passed.
That is very cool! Do you have the stories written down someplace?
It would be very weird (but not surprising) if the Obamas vacation in Hawaii and great-granny does not get to spend time with the kids every day!! If this story that “Obama spent an hour alone with his granny”) suggests that this is close to the extent of contact this week between white granny and her grandson’s family, well that would just be weird and disturbing. Might suggest that there is no relationship with the kids or Michelle, and that the main reason he is there is to go over or straighten out some of the cover stories about his identity and upbringing.
I never knew my great-grandparents (alas, even two of my grand-parents died before I was born) but it would be appalling to have the opportunity to know such a member of the family and the kids don’t get the chance or take the chance......
Of course! Wrote my thesis on their letters (and included a lot of the word of mouth stuff too because my great-aunt wrote Nannie’s stories down), and the letters themselves have been donated to a local university library.
Why would Obama’s kids want to spend time with their great grandmother? She is, after all, just a “typical white person.” And the kids were taught to hate such people by Mommy and Rev. Wright.
His grandmother is 85 and reportedly ill. She lives with his sister.
In all fairness, she may have dementia or something.
There’s plenty more to beat Obama up on besides this.
Ahhh, my mother in law...
Similar here being the youngest child.
I only knew one of my grandmothers, and she was pretty old and feeble before I became old enough to have a good conversation with her.
But with my grandkids, I make a strong point of being there for them and passing that intergenerational knowledge (and love) on.
Grandparents are (or should be) very important people for kids. One of the big problems with todays mobile society is far too often, kids and grandparents are hundreds of miles apart. They really don't have the opportunity to get to know each other. I am blessed in that mine are only a few miles away and I get to see them most every day.
Well, they are half way there with dad.
“I’m glad that at least my two sons had the benefit of knowing their grandparents before they passed.”
I know what you mean. Besides a parent’s love, there is no love greater than that of a grandparent for a child. My parents were both the youngest of many children and by the time I came along I only had one grandmother left. She lived far away but I got to see her occasionally and I miss that too.
That is awesome.
FWIW - I found out a few months ago that my great grandfather may have fought in the Civil War. He was born in 1836...he was 50 when he had my grandfather, who was 37 when he had my Dad, who was 35 when he had me. My daughter was born when I was 40, so I’m continuing the old age reproduction strategy! But it was a bit odd to realize only 4 generations cover from 1836 until the present...
Also - my adopted kids (they are older) visited my Mom regularly any time they came to town - usually within a day, and at their own asking. My youngest daughter saw her 3-4 times a week. She died last fall at 85. She had dementia, but she was happy when her grandkids were there - even if she didn’t remember their visit the next day. I have no respect for someone who wouldn’t take his kids to see the woman who raised him and sacrificed to give him the opportunities he has had.
Only enough time for her to try to crawl from under the bus,
With the real birth certificate clutched in her bloody hands;
While Obamarama sees her possible freedom, and begins to back up the bus!
Beep! Beep! Beep! Beep!
That was my thought as well. The world is going to hell in a hand basket and we're talking about Barry's grandma. jeez, folks.
That said, I thought Dont try to inject traditional family values on a democrap was pretty funny.
Interesting family history very similar to mine. In every instance for about 5 generations, I am descended from the youngest child. It really stretches things out.
Shows us how sick Michelle and Barack really are.
Yeah, I'm afraid something like this could happen. They seem to be sweet kids -- but anyone who would've spent their entire lives spending Sundays listening to 'hate whitey' 'sermons' is going to have some of that disease rub off on them. Hopefully no irreparable damage...
She’s probably too busy clinging to her guns and religion to have much time for grand younguns.
I know. That’s why our daughter spent so much time with both sets of grandparents. She got to see them on good days and bad and got to know them as people not just someone special that blew in from out of town spoiled her and then disappeared. She’s deeply connected to both sets of grandparents. The stories and lessons they taught her are very important to her and to her character.
Yes she may be ill and who knows about dementia. There has never been a report about that. If my mother had dementia (she’s 93)I’d still want my daughter to see her and spend time with her unless she was very violent (physically or verbally because of the dementia). If she were just ill then I’d certainly want the kids to see her and I know my daughter would have wanted to see her grandmother. I also know my mother would want to see her granddaughter. When my grandmother was dying she held on long enough for us to get to Michigan from California so she could see her great granddaughter one more time. It was very special for both of them.
The question is do they have a relationship? I don’t know if they have a relationship with Michelle’s parents either. The same question applies. If they do what kind and if they don’t why not?
“She’s deeply connected to both sets of grandparents. The stories and lessons they taught her are very important to her and to her character.”
That is wonderful. They learn so much from the life experience of the grandparents and to learn it with so much love attached is a gift beyond compare.
My mother lived with me until she died last year at the ripe old age of 93½. My grandkids live down from the block from me and were at my house almost daily. I delighted in watching the interaction between them and it was beneficial to all.
Enough to know she is a typical white person........
According to AP she has osteoporosis which prevents her from traveling that however doesn’t affect her ability to deal with well behaved loving great grandchildren.
I do need to make a correction the AP says he spent 2 hours with his grandmother.
And based on Obama's poor speech patterns, I figure the poor old lady probably fell asleep shortly after he arrived.
Nice post. Grandmother might not be up to spending a lot of time with the girls.
LOL. Now that's funny!
Even as a young child (Nannie died when I was 8) I knew I was in the presence of somebody special. She was a great beauty as a young woman, a classic old-style Southern Belle (the nice, queenly kind, not the Mean Girl), and she could tell a story.
The records are not complete so not getting a hit doesn't mean he wasn't in (a lot of stuff like muster rolls and what not simply got lost before anybody thought it was important enough to keep). But there's a good chance there's something in the database. I found a bunch of ancestors, cousins, neighbors, friends, what-not.
Had a lot of trouble on my mom's side because they tended to have children late. My great-aunt (my maternal grandfather's sister) didn't even know the name of her maternal grandfather, because their mother was the youngest of 9 children, and suffered from classic Alzheimer's (early onset of dementia, in her 50s) so she couldn't tell them a thing about the family.
To further complicate matters, the family was from South Carolina, which didn't keep official birth or marriage records until after WWII (that's not a typo - marriage licenses were introduced in 1948, I think). But I was able to go through newspaper announcements, land records and U.S. Census handwritten returns and figure out his name, where he was born, his wife's name, and the names of all his children. People think that genealogy is sort of a silly hobby, but it was all worth while when I saw my great-aunt's eyes light up. She was SO pleased that she finally knew her grandfather's name.
Mr. RightField and I -- now that we are in retirement -- have started writing down stories from our family histories. One of his great grandfathers was a slave in Mississippi who ran away to fight for the Union, changed his last name to avoid being sent back to the plantation in case he was caught by the Confederates. After the Civil War was over, he had some problems in claiming his pension because of the name change. We have the paperwork documenting how he eventually got his pension. And when his old plantation was broken up into smaller plots after the war, he got 160 acres of it free and clear, from his former owner's brother. Fascinating stuff.
I was privileged to know four of my great grandparents ... all of them were born in the 1870's. One great grandfather knew Orville and Wilbur Wright. He died at the age of 104. He was fond of saying, "I saw the first airplane fly and I saw the first man on the moon. Guess there's isn't much more to see in the way of progress." He'd be fascinated with the world today, and definitely an oldster who would take to computers and cell phones without a stumble.
We raised our own kids far away from their grandparents, but we took every opportunity we had to visit and have lots of contact with the grands. I heard once that the reason grandparents and grandchildren generally have good relationships is that they have a common enemy. LOL
That is wonderful to get those stories written down. My grandmother spent a lot of time getting stories written down. My grandfather’s grandmother crossed the prairie in a covered wagon...she had written down some stories as well. It’s important to remember where we came from.
With all due respect, have you ever been around a loved one with dementia? They often cannot remember who you are, even if they raised you...and you just reminded them who you were two minutes ago.
When my grandfather had Alzheimer’s, he thought he was a 22 year old sailor in the navy, and that my grandmother was his grandmother. He used to flirt with the nurses and staff in the hospital right in front of her. Our kids in elementary school. I saw no need to expose them to that.
Osteoporosis isn’t dementia and that’s what the media reports his grandmother has and why she doesn’t travel.
And the answer to your question is yes. My wife runs a senior center with an Alzheimer Day Care facility and we’ve known people who have suffered with it. As for exposing kids to someone who has it depends on the form the dementia takes. One of our friends as he got worse became violent and then the answer is no. The case you describe I probably would especially if they were old enough as Obama’s kids are to understand what’s going on. It’s not fun and it’s tough on loved ones, but then again the same can be said about cancer, MS, etc.
And I 've been thinking that as well, that it's a lot easier to assume a woman in her 90s may be ailing than to create complicated scenarios just to find one more thing not to like about Obama. Like many others on this thread, I find politics and beliefs to be plenty to judge.
And if she is ailing, this may be a time when I, gulp, might do the same thing (double gulp).
I'd want my children to spend time with her, but not wear her out. An hour or so is about the right amount of time before you start having young children having problems with sitting in a room with someone with dementia. And I know when I brought young children to spend time with my NON-demented aunt who was in her late-90s, an hour was about as long as she could muster the energy to interact with children in a way she liked. After that, she just needed to nap!