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UK history list leaves out Winston Churchill
Times of India ^ | 12 Aug 2008, 0023 hrs IST

Posted on 08/13/2008 8:34:38 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

LONDON: It seems that new history has completely forgotten one of Britain's tallest leaders — Winston Churchill.

The wartime PM, who led Britain to victory in the World War II, failed to secure a place on the list of the most important people and events in UK history. In fact, Queen Victoria, Florence Nightingale, Captain Cook and Sir Walter Raleigh also couldn't get into the "British" list — though the Beatles found a place, the Sun reported.

A team of scholars working for the History Channel has compiled the comprehensive list for a television series.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: history; ignorant; topten; winstonchurchill
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1 posted on 08/13/2008 8:34:38 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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“Team of scholars” — well you got your problem right there.


2 posted on 08/13/2008 8:37:31 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Gotta be Scrappleface, right??


3 posted on 08/13/2008 8:37:34 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: bajabaja

This is also part of the problem:

“working for the History Channel”


4 posted on 08/13/2008 8:38:41 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
"A team of scholars "

Code for "over-educated morons"

5 posted on 08/13/2008 8:38:51 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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“Captain Cook” over Winston Churchill...

Where exactly did these ‘scholars’ get their accreditation?


6 posted on 08/13/2008 8:42:11 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Psycho_Bunny

“A team of scholars “

‘Code for “over-educated morons”’

Precisely!


7 posted on 08/13/2008 8:44:50 PM PDT by devere
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> “Captain Cook” over Winston Churchill... Where exactly did these ‘scholars’ get their accreditation?

No, they said Cook didn't make the cut either.

This list is an atrocity, regardless.

8 posted on 08/13/2008 8:45:52 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: bajabaja
“Team of scholars”

Bunch of Piled Higher and Deepers!

9 posted on 08/13/2008 8:46:01 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: max americana
here exactly did these ‘scholars’ get their accreditation?

No doubt they obtained honorary accreditation from one another.

10 posted on 08/13/2008 8:46:01 PM PDT by highlander_UW (illegal alien is to an undocumented worker as a drug dealer is to an unlicensed pharmacist)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Stick a fork in Old Blighty - She’s done.

I wonder how many Imams and muzzie terrorists made the list.
Churchhill’s frank observations about Islam might be the reason he was kept off the list:

WINSTON CHURCHILL ON ISLAM (1899)

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries.
Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.
The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.
Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.
It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

— Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).


11 posted on 08/13/2008 8:49:08 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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And I thought our education system was ****ed!
12 posted on 08/13/2008 8:51:50 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Nancy "Mad Cow" Pelosi, call the House back into session!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Who is on the list?


13 posted on 08/13/2008 9:00:35 PM PDT by stevem
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To: DeaconBenjamin

“comprehensive list” should be in scare quotes. For that matter, so should be “scholars.”


14 posted on 08/13/2008 9:04:32 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Since many people would list Churchill as the greatest man of the 20th century, one could only suppose the ones who made that list were total idiots or had some agenda. Probably the second.


15 posted on 08/13/2008 9:05:03 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Psycho_Bunny

“Code for “over-educated morons”

Or maybe over-schooled fools. This sort probably can’t be considered educated, just schooled.


16 posted on 08/13/2008 9:08:10 PM PDT by Will88 (.)
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To: max americana

Capt Cook was also NOT included in the list.


17 posted on 08/13/2008 9:15:12 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Iron Munro

I love the “River War.” Churchill was one of the great historians who also made history, along with Caesar and T.R. (although I have never personally read any of the latter’s books).


18 posted on 08/13/2008 9:23:33 PM PDT by Tublecane
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" We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."-Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
19 posted on 08/13/2008 10:06:40 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Britain is no more.


20 posted on 08/13/2008 10:09:24 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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