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Clintons ready to crash Obama's party .... ("Denounce Nobama's Coronation")
Press Democrat ^ | Thursday, August 14, 2008 | MAUREEN DOWD

Posted on 08/14/2008 9:39:38 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Obama was spending three hours watching "The Dark Knight" five time zones away, and going to a fund-raiser featuring "Aloha attire" and Hawaiian pupus, Hillary was busy planning her convention.

You can almost hear her mind whirring: She's amazed at how easy it was to snatch Denver away from the Obama saps. Like taking candy from a baby, except Beanpole Guy doesn't eat candy. In just a couple of weeks, Bill and Hill were able to drag No Drama Obama into a swamp of Clinton drama.

Now they've made Barry's convention all about them -- their dissatisfaction and revisionism and barely disguised desire to see him fail. Whatever insincere words of support the Clintons muster, their primal scream gets louder: He can't win! He can't close the deal! We told you so! Hillary's orchestrating a play within the play in Denver. Just as Hamlet used the device to show that his stepfather murdered his father, Hillary will try to show the Democrats they chose the wrong savior.

Her former aide Howard Wolfson fanned the divisive flames Monday on ABC News, arguing that Hillary would have beaten Obama in Iowa and become the nominee if John Edwards' affair had come out last year -- an assertion contradicted by a University of Iowa survey showing that far more Edwards supporters had Obama as their second choice.

Hillary feels no guilt about encouraging her supporters to mess up Obama's big moment, thus undermining his odds of beating John McCain and improving her odds of being the nominee in 2012.

She's obviously relishing Hillaryworld's plans to have multiple rallies in Denver, to take out TV and print ads and to hold up signs in the hall that read "Denounce Nobama's Coronation."

(Excerpt) Read more at pressdemocrat.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008dncconvention; barakobama; clintom; democrats; hillary; obama; puma
Pop corn and hot dog time........
1 posted on 08/14/2008 9:39:38 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

Sorry, too good to be true.


2 posted on 08/14/2008 9:41:49 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: IrishMike

LOL...she couldn’t use “Beanpole Boy,” a much more alliterative description, because that would be...well, you know.


3 posted on 08/14/2008 9:42:15 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: IrishMike

the clintons are so completely insane. Honestly, I think it would be better to suffer through an Obama presidency than to risk having to put up with them. They are just so evil.


4 posted on 08/14/2008 9:42:41 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

It would be a mistake to think that Hillary’s campaign against Obama is over. She and Bill both realize that if McCain wins, she would be the likely Democratic nominee against him in 2012. At the age of 76, McCain might make easy pickings. Hillary’s argument to win the nomination would be simple: I told you so. Her warnings that Obama was unelectable would have proven to have been prescient and Democrats are likely to feel chagrined that they rejected her in 2008.

How will the Clintons undermine Obama? Not by any overt statement. In public, they will appear to be his biggest fans. Hillary does not dare incurring the wrath of Democratic voters if they feel that she abandoned her party’s nominee in the general election. But the Clintons will do what they do best: they will hog the spotlight. By speaking on Tuesday and Wednesday, this former first couple will spread themselves over the convention, usurping media, taking face time, and making the convention appear, for its first three days, as a Hillary Clinton gathering.

http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/dmorris/2008/dm_0814.shtml


5 posted on 08/14/2008 9:45:36 AM PDT by IrishMike (Obama stands for change. He wants to change the subject.)
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To: IrishMike

I just cannot stand her, but she got a raw deal from the DNC, the media, reporters, editiors, “impartial” moderators of the debates between her and Obambi, other governors save Pennsylvania’s, and turncoat friends.

I hope she raises holy havoc.


6 posted on 08/14/2008 9:46:08 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: IrishMike

Is it absurd to think that Hillary might run as an independent claiming that the coronation is rightfully hers and it was stolen by a MAN?


7 posted on 08/14/2008 9:46:46 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: IrishMike
Now it seems Hillary's name will be placed in nomination.
8 posted on 08/14/2008 9:50:09 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: IrishMike

What does Rushbo say ??


9 posted on 08/14/2008 9:52:58 AM PDT by traumer
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To: IrishMike
If the nomination was taken from Nobama at this point; the fallout would be of nuclear proportions from part of the populace.

The best possible thing would be for McCain to find an great conservative black as VP. And then have Hillary somehow steal the nomination from Nobama.

10 posted on 08/14/2008 9:53:28 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: 1066AD

For Clinton conspiracy types, this opens the way for Hillary to steal the nomination if some devastating personal revelation about Obama should arise between now and the convention.


11 posted on 08/14/2008 9:53:45 AM PDT by kabar
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To: IrishMike

Re-create ‘68


12 posted on 08/14/2008 9:53:49 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: OpusatFR

Actually, that’s how I feel, too. I think Hillary’s awful, but at the core, she’s just another leftist witch. Obambi is something else, much, much creepier and more destructive.

I think Hillary was actually politically outsmarted by him, though. His Saul Alinsky tactics have served him well. He’s very power-hungry on a personal level, even more so than Hillary, and I think she was caught off guard by his ruthlessness. When it comes to his lust for power, Obambi has fangs.


13 posted on 08/14/2008 9:55:16 AM PDT by livius
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To: OpusatFR

You’re pitying her............you drank deeply, before you realized it was Kool-Aid, served up just for you.


14 posted on 08/14/2008 10:01:03 AM PDT by weeder
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To: OpusatFR
but she got a raw deal

I know. Her crown was custom made just for her a decade ago.

15 posted on 08/14/2008 10:05:03 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: kabar
For Clinton conspiracy types, this opens the way for Hillary to save the party and accept the nomination when she releases devastating personal revelations about Obama between now and the convention.

Fixed it!
16 posted on 08/14/2008 10:07:08 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: livius
I think Hillary was actually politically outsmarted by him,

O'Bama is merely the beneficiary of the various groups which Bill and Hill crossed in the past.

17 posted on 08/14/2008 10:07:28 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: IrishMike

Obama can’t even handle Hillery.

I sure he’ll do great at handling Russia and Iran.


18 posted on 08/14/2008 10:08:20 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: Islander7
For Clinton conspiracy types, this opens the way for Hillary to save the party Clinton's and accept the nomination when she releases devastating personal revelations about Obama between now and the convention.

Add'l editing.

19 posted on 08/14/2008 10:09:26 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Islander7

If anything is released about Obama, it won’t be traceable to Hillary.


20 posted on 08/14/2008 10:09:39 AM PDT by kabar
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To: IrishMike

Oh please. She’s not aiming for 2012, the future is now!


21 posted on 08/14/2008 10:12:23 AM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: kabar

If anything is released about Obama, it won’t be traceable to Hillary.,,,,,,”

Of course not! McCain, Rove, Bush, take your pick, but never the Clintons.


22 posted on 08/14/2008 10:12:27 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: Raycpa

Hillary to save the party Clinton’s and accept the nomination when she releases dev......”

Oh come on now. You aren’t suggesting Hillary would place personal goals above the party, are you?

;-)


23 posted on 08/14/2008 10:14:14 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: HereInTheHeartland
That is very true. If Hillary somehow manages to snatch the nomination away from Obama, the Democrat party will basically be finished. For one they will lose the Black vote (and for those saying that cannot happen consider that once upon a time blacks used to vote overwhelmingly Republican), and they will also forfeit the young vote that considers it to be 'unfair.'

This may actually be an opportunity for the Republicans. Think of it, the African-American demographic is actually very strongly conservative on social issues, and most vote Democrat primarily out of tradition (and the shrill urgings of 'black leaders' like Sharpton, who are slowly losing their level of influence). This could be a major inflection point that is similar to that which shunted Blacks from the Republican to the Democrat party (simply because it seemed that the Democrats were more for Civil rights than Republicans, which at the time I'd say seemed the case. This made Blacks move from the party that had actually stood up for freeing slaves, even though Lincoln may have had other subtler reasons for doing so it is still the Republican party that stood for this, to a party that had been the fount of the White supremacist movement in the South ...the Democrat party).

Imagine what would happen if Obama, who for lack of a better word is revered by blacks and young voters, had the nomination (for lack of a better word) 'taken away' from him.

That would be the death knell of the Democrat party, and Hillary would just have won herself a Phyrric victory (sp). I think this is a great opportunity for us, especially among young upward mobile blacks (college degree, professional background), and middle-aged black professionals (who would be typical Republican voters ....were it not for the fact that they vote Democrat).

24 posted on 08/14/2008 10:16:25 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: IrishMike

I still don’t think she has a chance in “her future place of residence”.
The argument that somehow the democrat voters will reason that she was the best choice because of Obama’s failure doesn’t hold up.
The Democrat voters place all their collective futures on feelings. Not fact-based reasoning.
The candidate they will swoon over must be a “visionary”, a “leader in the field of ideas”. ( plans are optional)
No matter how you slice her, (?) Hillary is still just a battered wife of a hillbilly politician. Her own party has moved on. I believe she is simply taking a last trip down Sunset Boulevard. “I’m ready for my close up Mr. DeMille”.

JC


25 posted on 08/14/2008 10:18:40 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 ("Don't hope for energy, vote for it!")
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To: IrishMike

All I can say is that if I were a democrat I’d be very upset with my party for taking away the voter’s rights in foavor of what Howeird Dean and the left wing wanted. It’s the ultimate hypocrisy to have actually done what they projected our side of doing in 2000!


26 posted on 08/14/2008 10:20:49 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: babble-on
Couldn't agree more!

...However, just watch between now and Denver how many on this very site loooong to have the clintons back in power!

27 posted on 08/14/2008 10:21:24 AM PDT by top 2 toe red ("Cackling hillary...makes her sound like she is mentally-illary." Jimmy Kimmel. "Uh...she is!" Me)
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To: livius

I think the clintons are light years ahead of Obama in the ruthless, evil-to-the-core, do ANYTHING for power department...they make him look like Mother Teresa...my opinion...


28 posted on 08/14/2008 10:26:19 AM PDT by top 2 toe red ("Cackling hillary...makes her sound like she is mentally-illary." Jimmy Kimmel. "Uh...she is!" Me)
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To: FlipWilson

Correct, it is planned by both Clinton and Obama teams. He simply wants her voters, so he is being nice.

Nothing exciting at all.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/deal-clintons-n.html


29 posted on 08/14/2008 10:34:41 AM PDT by roses of sharon (SAVE YOUR GAS RECIEPTS, SEND TO PELOSI!)
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To: OpusatFR
Raw deal?!?...ABC, Fox news, Rush, Hannity, Coulter, Rove, Ingraham, O'Reilly, tons of FReepers, etc., etc., carried so much water for her that they still have water sloushing around in their shoes.

As for the sorry bunch at the DNC, she agreed with everything they did, until it no longer benefitted her.

30 posted on 08/14/2008 10:37:41 AM PDT by top 2 toe red ("Cackling hillary...makes her sound like she is mentally-illary." Jimmy Kimmel. "Uh...she is!" Me)
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To: weeder

“You’re pitying her...”

No, no, and no.

I have finely developed sense of fairplay, common courtesy, and conservative ideals.

What the DNC did to Hillary offends me. I’d rather have a (relatively) clean debate rather than that dog and pony show with the “impartial” moderators asking her the first question every time and then having that empty suit straight from the bowels of Marx chime in, “Me, too!”

It was like watching Buffalo Bob (Oh geez, my age shows!) work the Howdy-Doody puppet, only this time, the strings were pulled by Charles Gibson and his crew of head of bangers.

BTW, I’m actively campaigning for McCain.


31 posted on 08/14/2008 10:41:30 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR

I’m glad you’re campaigning for McCain. The alternative is just too awful to contemplate. But regarding the press and their “unfair” treatment of Hillary, I don’t buy it. The Clintons are image masters, and know how to play the “unfair” card in ways that others can only dream of. Plus the press might be totally fed up with them and their crap, and have chosen to not play nice anymore. Either way, we don’t have a dog in that fight, so screw ‘em. A pox on both their houses.


32 posted on 08/14/2008 11:01:35 AM PDT by weeder
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Dementia in Denver!!!


33 posted on 08/14/2008 11:07:50 AM PDT by xc1427 (It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees...Midnight Oil (Power and the Passion))
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To: IrishMike

This is gonna be a gooood convention, lol. I usually don’t watch the dims big show, but this time I’ll have it on..... on mute that is. I am really depending on my fellow FReepers telling me when the good stuff starts so that I can unmute.

Funny, I find myself almost.... almost.... rooting for the beast.....then I catch myself. I don’t want that woman one stolen election closer to the oval office. Obama is the much weaker candidate. But I NEVER thought I’d despise any democrat more than I do Hillary and Bill. Well, then along came Obama.

This whole thing has been so entertaining to watch though.

pattyjo


34 posted on 08/14/2008 11:08:34 AM PDT by pj_627
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To: pj_627
I NEVER thought I’d despise any democrat more than I do Hillary and Bill. Well, then along came Obama.<"P>Democrats are good that way.
35 posted on 08/14/2008 2:10:35 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Obama is a media prop.
Its his close circle of friends and advisors who are the brains. Obama is just an actor.


36 posted on 08/14/2008 2:17:01 PM PDT by winodog (We have been set up for Hillary)
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