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Restaurants & Stores May Face Fines For Wasting Energy
eater.com ^ | :August 13, 2008 | Amanda

Posted on 08/14/2008 3:02:12 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes

"The City Council is poised to approve new legislation on Thursday that would bar stores from keeping their doors open when air-conditioners or central cooling systems are in use. Any store or restaurant in violation of the new rule will first be issued a written warning and charged fines for subsequent violations. The second time within an 18-month period that a business is found to be violating the law, a fine of $200 would be charged by the city for every open door. That fine would increase to $400 a door for any subsequent violations during the same period."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: airconditioning; bloomberg; energy; lp; nannystate; nyc; waste; workplace
Read some of the comments. Unbelievable.
1 posted on 08/14/2008 3:02:12 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes
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To: bamahead

ping


2 posted on 08/14/2008 3:04:19 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Just another way to grab more money from hard working people.

Too bad we can't walk into government offices and fine them for waste!! i.e. SHUT THEM DOWN!!

3 posted on 08/14/2008 3:07:24 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Gee, isn’t the fine self inflicted (in the form of high energy costs) from the “wasters” themselves? Lets face it, the Liberals are Nazis at heart.


4 posted on 08/14/2008 3:14:20 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Past Your Eyes

So the government is worried about wasted energy. Let’s start with the street lights I see burning all day long.


5 posted on 08/14/2008 3:20:24 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Any day above ground is a good day.)
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To: 4yearlurker

The AC in the government buildings must be turned off, too, since they can heat it all by themselves with hot air.


6 posted on 08/14/2008 3:26:14 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: 4yearlurker

I say we shut down NASCAR and every other idiotic form of car racing. Think of the savings!


7 posted on 08/14/2008 3:26:38 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Do you one better cutout all school busing. Maybe the drop in summertime gas consumption was less school busing???


8 posted on 08/14/2008 3:31:31 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (My Tee shirt for 2009-2012:" I voted FRED don't you wish you did")
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To: Past Your Eyes
Absolutely unbelievable. These people want to have government slap other people around to suit their green little dream world. They won't be happy until every bit of energy is rationed and you have gestapo officers patrolling the streets extorting money from violators. They'll scream like stuck pigs when the government starts coming after them to fulfill someone else's idea of the perfect society.

Outlaw air conditioning and only outlaws (and government offices) will have air conditioning.

9 posted on 08/14/2008 3:33:05 PM PDT by eggman (Read it on Free Republic tonight, see it on the network news when the DNC sends them the copy.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
I read the comments.
Ya just gotta love NYers. I know, I was one for more than 50 years.
Back in the 60’s after the first Great Blackout there was a big campaign to lower electric usage. It was called Save-A-Watt. Well, us lemming NYers did just that. We conserved electricity to help ConEd meet demand. Funny thing happened....ConEd didn't meet projected revenues because of all the conservation so they upped the rates for everyone.
10 posted on 08/14/2008 3:34:35 PM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: Roccus

Charlotte, NC did something very similar but with water...

They raised the rates after the revenue drop.


11 posted on 08/14/2008 3:36:09 PM PDT by jrestrepo
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To: eggman

“Outlaw air conditioning and only outlaws (and government offices) will have air conditioning. “

I was raised down south and when I was little we didn’t have any air conditioning. I remember how bad it was even today. The old houses had 12’ ceilings and transoms at the tops of the doors for a reason.


12 posted on 08/14/2008 3:37:47 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Past Your Eyes

Just another piece of liberal marxists legislation to kill capitolism and the free enterprise system.


13 posted on 08/14/2008 3:37:53 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (IF YOU ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE BY 35 YOU HAVE NO BRAIN. W CHURCHILL)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Not sure if it’s still the case, but it wasn’t all that long ago that city office buildings in lower Manhattan (these are VERY large buildings) all had window units hanging on the outside.


14 posted on 08/14/2008 3:41:54 PM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Read some of the comments. Unbelievable.

I did. They are.

The Left cannot communicate without gross crudeness. I've never understood why the Left has a reputation for intelligence, eloquence and nuance.

15 posted on 08/14/2008 3:54:14 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Truth to the Left is that which advances their goals. Factuality is irrelevant.)
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To: tbw2
"The AC in the government buildings must be turned off, too, since they can heat it all by themselves with hot air."

Most folks use A/C to REDUCE hot air...

16 posted on 08/14/2008 4:01:50 PM PDT by Redbob ("WWJBD" ="What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Past Your Eyes; Eric Blair 2084

Excellent.

Why should these fools be allowed to waste energy.

Now to mandate internal temps for residences.

If an activity is deemed harmful to the public good and general welfare, then why should it not be under the purview of government.


17 posted on 08/14/2008 4:02:57 PM PDT by swarthyguy (Osama Freedom Day: 2500 or so since September 11 2001! That's SIX +years, Dubya.)
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To: traviskicks; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
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18 posted on 08/14/2008 4:18:40 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: GOYAKLA; Past Your Eyes
Do you one better cutout all school busing.

Great idea! Form’m up, march’m out.

End all this nonsense of Mommy driving them to & from school everyday.

The Block Mothers can take turns as drill sergeant. The walking will do them ALL a world of good.

Cut down on time, money & energy wasted on treadmills, too.

19 posted on 08/14/2008 6:13:41 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: eggman
They won't be happy until every bit of energy is rationed and you have gestapo officers patrolling the streets extorting money from violators.

I have a GREAT idea!

Instead of the government worrying about people wasting all of the energy the government gives them, why don't we install meters, and SELL it to them? Maybe even use a step-structure, so the more the use, the more each additional unit costs!

That way, if they use more, they have to pay more; and when the bill gets too high, they'll automatically cut back!

I know that is a radical idea, but it just might be crazy enough to work!

20 posted on 08/14/2008 6:18:59 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Past Your Eyes

The city council is overstepping its authority. It has no authority to regulate energy usage.


21 posted on 08/14/2008 6:25:10 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: Roccus
all had window units hanging on the outside.

I saw plenty of that on offices last summer when I was in Cleveland, among other places.

22 posted on 08/14/2008 6:48:59 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Don’t know if you were being facetious, but I installed a system in a major NYC department store for just that reason. Once the store reached a certain demand, the cost /KWhr increased. With this system, as demand neared the benchmark, it would shed load by cutting different AC units around the store according to pre-programmed criteria. For example, stock areas would be cut off first, then perhaps other peripheral areas, then offices and so on.


23 posted on 08/14/2008 7:33:24 PM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
We're going to need a lot more cops.

I need one or two to follow me around all day to make sure I don't do anything unhealthy to myself or to others, brush my teeth and get plenty of sleep.

24 posted on 08/14/2008 8:05:58 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Past Your Eyes

The comments show how many people are sold on the idea of Global Warming.

Time to tear up the city streets and return to dirt paths, so the sun’s heat isn’t reflect back, futher heating up the planet.


25 posted on 08/14/2008 8:19:01 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Earth First...we will drill the other planets later.)
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To: Roccus
Don’t know if you were being facetious,

Only facetious in that I had the government giving them the government's power, since they act like it (along with our earnings, investments, property, and everything else) is theirs.

IOW, we already have the solution; you're a part of it; and none of it is based on fines.

A lot of our electric co-op's commercial customers have load-shedding contracts & equipment, and have for years.

26 posted on 08/14/2008 8:38:34 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Coming soon to your neighborhood...the thermostat police.


27 posted on 08/14/2008 9:03:17 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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