Posted on 08/14/2008 6:50:32 PM PDT by pissant
I am reading through the Obama push-back on the Corsi book to get ready for an appearance on Hannity and Colmes tonight, and the shoddy work product put out by Obama could well throw fuel on the fire. Corsi's certainly got errors in his book, but Obama's team is trying too hard when they assert about unrepentant terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn in response to Corsi that "AYERS AND DOHRN ARE MEMBERS OF THE ESTABLISHMENT WITH TIES TO THE MAYOR" (p. 16 of the Obama document) or that with regard to Alice Palmer --the Illinois State Senator that Obama's team had removed from the ballot in his first race for state office, that "PALMER PULLED HER OWN PLUG." (p. 18.)
On page 9, Obama's defense brief asserts: OBAMA HAS MADE CLEAR REPEATEDLY THAT HE STOPPED USING MARIJUANA IN COLLEGE, WHICH PEERS HAVE AFFIRMED." But the Corsi assertion being responded to here also pointed out that Obama has yet to answer questions of whether he ever dealt drugs, and the single assertion about quitting that Obama's team cites is from an interview in '03, which is hardly "repeatedly."
I am just getting started, but Obama seems to have made a huge mistake in attempting to spin many of these charges. Most of them are matters of opinion --such as the interpretation of Michelle Obama's "not been proud of America" comment or whether Hamas endorsed Obama. By throwing this much fuel on the fire, the fire gets bigger and all of these stories/charges./assertions get more attention. Corsi is the happiest man in the world tonight because Obama's team not only gave him a few million dollars of publicity, they also failed to discredit him completely.
But the key error is that now Obama will have to do the same thing forDavid Freddoso's extremely well-researched and documented book. Looking forward to that "push-back" as well.
I don’t doubt for a second that Ayers and Dohrn are part of the establishment. That doesn’t mean that they’re all right. It does, however, say a lot about the rotten establishment that produces a candidate like Obama.
I watched you Hugh, and the other “guests” and I could not believe how the pro-Obama lib (can’t remember his name) was literally LYING ABOUT OBAMA. Blatantly. And Hannity was calling him on it. They just have no shame, no morals, no ethics and no substance. They are just simply criminals and thugs who want to dismantle Constitutional America and gain power over it.
Beyond disgusting.
that’s funny,
and the truth perhaps.
no doubt many college leftists moved up into the establishment.
the “bourgeoise” as college girlfriend of mine never ceased to remark.
i hate that word.




Obama's "member of the establishment" friend Bill Ayers
I think you have nailed it, the establishment they are members of is an elite club of criminals and thugs. Lenin, Stalin, Beria, Putin, Obama, Ayers, Dohrn.
In Academia, and in the company of the Champagne Socialist elite, they are. Tragic.
AYERS AND DOHRN ARE MEMBERS OF THE ESTABLISHMENT
Man, that’s not groovy.
but then again so are Barry, Bill, and Hill
I've got to think this is true.
By taking this action, Obama has made sure all these issues get a lot more attention than they would have otherwise. I am sure he is going to try to spin it as a "nasty Republican smear", but now that he has officially engaged it, he is going to have to answer some potentially uncomfortable questions.
About the not dedicating the book to the family,
That’s a big mistake,
unless Corsi is reading the first edition
and Obama added it to recent editions.
Also, the obsession with Islam is intense, even challenging a local witness.
I have to ask: Is this a real picture, or is it photoshopped?
Re: Ayers and Dohrn
Yes, and that’s a further condemnation of the cesspool that is Chicago Democrat politics — that those two unrepentant terrorist scumbags ARE embraced by the ‘Rat establishment in Chicago. THAT point won’t help Obambi once people see what it means about the political environment that he CHOSE, SOUGHT OUT, and EMBRACED for life.
Yes, Democrats ARE soft on terrorism and terrorists. Yes, DemocRATs do embrace scum like Ayers and Dohrn.
They’re claiming the school record religion entry was for his step-father, not St. Barack [pbuh]
Oh, it’s real alright — that photo of a older, unrepentant Ayers stepping on the American Flag was a publicity still for his 2001 book tour, IIRC, when he decided to release his fond memoir of political terrorism just in time for 9/11.
gore’s an example.
Yes, they actually wrote that.
The word might actually be "bourgeoisie"
Thank you. I hope I get to meet that arrogant jerk one day so that I can b*tch-slap the sh*t out of him.
The photo is real.
First appeared in Chicago magazine, August 2001.
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/
I’d be overjoyed at the opportunity to duplicate that picture of Ayers, but with Ayers’ face replacing our Flag.
Says a lot about the Democrat party, doesn't it?
Former terrorists and accessories to murder are members of the party's "establishment".
Fredosso’s book is even better.
He owes me.
P. 14
LIE: “No one in Obama’s paternal or maternal family had ever resided in Chicago.”
REALITY: OBAMA’S GREAT UNCLE RESIDED IN CHICAGO
__________________________________________
These guys are nuts if they think that’s significant. Makes them look like loons.
FRee Republic gets a mention when they cite comments made by Corsi on FR.
The picture is real. The vermin Ayers gladly posed for it.
It’s from an article in Chicago Magazine - August 2001 titled:
No Regrets
At the time this photograph was taken, Obama and Ayers were serving together on the board of the Woods Fund. It was in 2001 when Ayers donated $200 to Obamas State Senate campaign fund.
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/
It’s real.... as real as a heart attack...
There was a whole series of the POS defiling the flag in an alley for some promotion.....
Big mistake and very embarrassing for Obama.
So their strategy is to portray Jerome Corsi as a wild-eyed, unreliable, fringe author.
Here’s the problem IMO. Corsi doesn’t come across as a wild-eyed, unreliable, fringe author.
Corsi is laughing all the way to the bank.
What? You mean Michelle said she wasn't proud of America? I never heard that before! Thanks for making sure I knew, Mr. Obama!
Liars are notorious for their wordy, overly-detailed defense.
The other “lie” that is brought up is about who found the house first. Corsi implies it was Redzko and the Obama camp says it was Michele. I kid you not. They have an issue with that. Who found the house first. The rebuttal from the Obama camp doesn’t talk about the two editions of Obama’s autobiography. They make no mention of that.
Most of their points of contention are with Corsi’s lines that start as “Critics say....” and then goes on to make a point. The arguments are really toward the source. They don’t dispute the sources. It’s like they are upset a different slant is on the information than what they want. Most of the so-called “lies” are not really lies but differences in interpretation or opinion. I hope this gets brought out every day. It should be answered and not linger. Everyone should pick out a “lie” and do some research on it. It won’t be too difficult. It’s just hard for one person to do all the rebutting. We should not let this go unanswered.
MSU SDS Reunion: Bernardine Dohrn speaks:
November 30, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2yYXVmrj5A
Thank you. Just read it. They are nitpicking about small things that Corsi goofed on. LOL. He must have struck paydirt. Now I’ll have to buy his book.
In any event, the Obama camp does not have a clue at what else we have - neither does Hillary's undead legions. But I can assure you this. Obama will never see the White House.
For now I will just "fight the temptation"
“Corsi’s certainly got errors in his book, but Obama’s team is trying too hard when they assert about unrepentant terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn in response to Corsi that “AYERS AND DOHRN ARE MEMBERS OF THE ESTABLISHMENT WITH TIES TO THE MAYOR”
Why would Hugh assert that “Corsi’s certainly got errors in his book” and provide no examples at all of those supposed errors?
But I expect it to do some damage.
It’ll take days and weeks to sort out what Obama can or cannot refute, and the presence of any errors in the book.
So their strategy is to portray Jerome Corsi as a wild-eyed, unreliable, fringe author.
Heres the problem IMO. Corsi doesnt come across as a wild-eyed, unreliable, fringe author.
Well, apparently Dr. Corsi has said some outlandish things, for which he has apologized and for which, to my knowledge, caused no harm to anyone in particular. So, he should be scrutinized. I think that is fair. I think he is okay with it as well. The more scrutiny, the more buzz, the better the book sells. So, we can help it along be participating!
Here it is, the REBUTTAL
http://obama.3cdn.net/a74586f9067028c40a_5km6vrqwa.pdf
It’s a PDF connected to the Obama site. If posting that link doesn’t work, go to http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/corsi
and click on the pdf version.

I have just skimmed the first 30 pages of the tirade.
They accuse Corsi of lying because he implies that the Obamas married and bought a condo circa 1995 when the correct dates were a few years earlier. This is hair-splitting about the meaning of the words “had just bought.”
What’s absolutely hysterical is that these same people call Bob Beckel “A REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST.”
Someone had better get these hotheads a fact checker. Pronto.
I read it. Sounds like Media Matters wrote it for him. ROFL
Make no mistake: The Obama Nation: is nothing but rehashed lies.
Is this even English?
David Brock was n a hurry, cut him some slack.
The following is from left-leaning Wikipedia under Annenberg
" ....... William Ayers who hired Mike Klonsky, a Chicago cab driver who had earned a Ph.D. in education from the University of South Florida, and former activist with Ayers in Students for a Democratic Society, or SDS. Klonsky had achieved limited notoriety in 1977 when he traveled to Beijing to seek the endorsement of Communist China for a political party he had helped establish in the United States, the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist)."
This is a guy hired by the William Ayers who was Director while Obama chaired the board for 5 years but they supposedly never exchanged ideas.
One nut deserves another.
In Human Events, Corsi claimed that "President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union" a theoretical continental union of Canada, Mexico and the United States, that will supplant the United States.[35] He has made similiar claims about a North American Union in a variety of other places, such as with The Conservative Caucus.[36] Another writer for Human Events responded: "Yesterday, Jerome Corsi was prattling on about the North American Union again after Michael Medved deservedly spanked him for spreading conspiracy theories. While I don't think Corsi is any more worthy of being taken seriously than those who think Jews rule the world or the "Truthers" who think President Bush is responsible for 9/11, I thought I would respond to him one last time."[37]
The New York Times reported "A YouTube video making the rounds, especially among Obama supporters, mocks Mr. Corsi for a Jan. 29 interview on Alex Jones radio show."[38] Accordind to the paper "The clip has Mr. Corsi discussing the findings of Steven Jones, physicist and hero of the 9/11 Truth movement who claims to have evidence that the World Trade Center towers collapsed due to explosives inside the building, not just the planes hitting them, during the attacks."[39] Obama's campaign has criticized Corsi for these claims.[40]
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