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Don't let Swift-boaters sail again
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 8/15/8 | Eugene Robinson, Washington Post Writers Group

Posted on 08/15/2008 8:00:33 AM PDT by SmithL

Here come the goons, right on schedule.

The "author," and I use the term loosely, whose vicious lies damaged John Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign has crawled back out from under his rock to spew vicious lies about Barack Obama. Right-wing radio talk-show hosts are dutifully transmitting this concocted venom. This presidential campaign has officially gotten ugly.

The "author" I'm talking about is a man named Jerome Corsi. In a book published last year, "The Late Great USA: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada," Corsi claimed that George W. Bush was at the heart of a secret conspiracy to subsume the United States into a post-national, one-worldish North American Union. Corsi's writings on far-right blogs have been even more paranoid and delusional. He has written that pedophilia, for which he used a more graphic term, "is OK with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press." He has referred to Muslims as "ragheads."

Corsi would be known as just another visitor from the outer fringe if he had not been the co-author of "Unfit for Command," the book that slimed Kerry's exemplary record as a Swift boat commander in Vietnam. The allegations in that book were discredited, but not before they had been amplified by the right-wing echo chamber to the point where they raised questions in some voters' minds - perhaps enough to swing the election.

It was an abominable trick, but quite remarkable. Kerry's opponent, George W. Bush, had avoided Vietnam by taking refuge in the Texas Air National Guard. Kerry was a decorated war hero, yet somehow his valor and sense of duty were turned into a political negative and used against him.

Now Corsi, in what he acknowledges is an attempt "to keep Obama from getting elected,"

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bookreview; corsi; gingrich; nobama; obama; obamanation; swiftboat; waaaaaa
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The "writer," and I use the term loosely, is staying true to his core loyalties.
1 posted on 08/15/2008 8:00:34 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Vietnam combat vets are ‘goons’ to this punk.


2 posted on 08/15/2008 8:02:07 AM PDT by skeeter
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If he doesn't like swift-boaters, he won't like me at all:

3 posted on 08/15/2008 8:02:23 AM PDT by SmithL (Drill Dammit!)
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To: SmithL

They make it sound like this is a new tactic. Every, single, year books come out about the candidates, good and bad. They’re just pissed because we do it so much better than they do.


4 posted on 08/15/2008 8:02:53 AM PDT by Hildy (You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.)
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To: SmithL

I’m going to invent a “Bunched Panties Remover” and sell it to all the presstitutes who are writing these articles about Corsi’s book...


5 posted on 08/15/2008 8:03:59 AM PDT by eureka! (McCain....I guess.)
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To: SmithL

I just went on Amazon and bought this book. The storm troopers from Daily KOS are trying to bury the book by writing scathing reviews. They are so humorous......


6 posted on 08/15/2008 8:04:26 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Success begets knowledge; failure begets wisdom.)
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To: SmithL

The Swifties told the truth - pretty scary stuff for some people.


7 posted on 08/15/2008 8:05:07 AM PDT by GOPJ (If Hillary steals the nomination, blacks will sit home - GOP will take it all. Go for it Hillary.)
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To: Hildy

They’re just pissed off because they were so giddy about nominating a black guy that they didn’t realize that he was an empty suit with a boatload of baggage.
There’s always 2012, hee hee


8 posted on 08/15/2008 8:05:34 AM PDT by wilco200 (Typical White Person)
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To: SmithL
These idiots still haven't figured out that "Swift Boating" only means demanding the documented truth.
9 posted on 08/15/2008 8:05:41 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: SmithL

The truth hurts don’t it Eugene


10 posted on 08/15/2008 8:05:46 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Nobama ... Karl Marx in black face)
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To: SmithL

It’s fun to see leftist get so stirred up. Of course the first book attacking McCain will be hailed as a masterpiece written by a brave writer and everything in it will be accepted as fact and repeated often by the MSM.


11 posted on 08/15/2008 8:06:04 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: SmithL
Mr. Eugene Robinson writes about 3 Corsi books. One book about Kerry, one book about Bush, and one book about Obama. But it seems that Mr. Eugene Robinson only considers two of the books to be full of lies. Can you guess which book Mr. Eugene Robinson does not mention as filled with lies? The Bush book of course.

Mr. Eugene Robinson, you are one transparent little squealing sissy! And did you know that Obama's brother says that Obama is a full blown Muslim!!!

12 posted on 08/15/2008 8:06:15 AM PDT by avacado
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To: SmithL

“The allegations in that book were discredited”

The only allegation discredited, I believe, was JFK’s Xmas eve boat ride in the mekong river.


13 posted on 08/15/2008 8:06:55 AM PDT by RexFamilia (It is God's duty to judge terrorists, but we have to arrange the meeting.)
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To: SmithL

Expect to see these same talking points repeated, verbatim, over and over. The Obama campaign is blast faxing them to every friendly news outlet (that would be pretty much all of them, of course) in order to discredit Corsi.

Let’s keep score:

1. The Late Great USA - Anti-NAFTA Conspiracy Nut
2. Says the Pope has no problem with pedophilia
3. Has referred to Muslims as “ragheads”

See how many articles these three items show up in over the next week or so.


14 posted on 08/15/2008 8:06:57 AM PDT by gridlock (Barack Obama is the Sanjaya Malakar of American Politics...)
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To: SmithL

He was on Fox & Friends this morning and brought up the fake birth certificate on the O’Bammy website. That ought to bring about a few more moonbats.


15 posted on 08/15/2008 8:07:04 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: SmithL
The allegations in that book were discredited

All of us must have missed this. All I heard was a bunch of libs screaming "Not true!".

to spew vicious lies about Barack Obama.

Have they any proof besides tears of anguish?

16 posted on 08/15/2008 8:07:55 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SmithL
an attempt "to keep Obama from getting elected,"

To any leftist, resisting putting more leftists in their rightful positions of power is a capital crime.

17 posted on 08/15/2008 8:07:58 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: GOPJ

Indeed, the Swiftboat story was thoroughly vetted and the MSM couldn’t punch a hole in any of it. “Vicious lies,” hah.


18 posted on 08/15/2008 8:08:05 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SmithL
...whose vicious lies damaged John Kerry's 2004

Funny that nobody on the stupid left ever itemizes any of those "lies." Why not? Two answers. 1: They don't want people to actually be aware of the charges. 2: They're 100% true.

19 posted on 08/15/2008 8:09:12 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: SmithL

“Unfit for Command,” the book that slimed Kerry’s exemplary record as a Swift boat commander in Vietnam. The allegations in that book were discredited..”

If they were discredited, they certainly weren’t discredited by those 100 pages of John Kerry’s service record which he promised to release during the campaign, and after the campaign, but which have not yet been released, AFAIK.


20 posted on 08/15/2008 8:09:16 AM PDT by Will88 (.)
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To: SmithL
It sounds like the kind of book that should quickly be consigned to the remainder bin, but - unsurprisingly - it is already a bestseller.

If Barack Henry Obama is not going to reveal anything true about himself, he can't be surprised when somebody else fills in the blanks.

21 posted on 08/15/2008 8:09:33 AM PDT by gridlock (Barack Obama is the Sanjaya Malakar of American Politics...)
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To: skeeter

“The allegations in that book were discredited,” This is a DNC talking point. Which allegations were discredited? They never say.
Odd because if this was nothing but a lie, where was the lawsuit?


22 posted on 08/15/2008 8:10:11 AM PDT by Holicheese (Hillary deserves the CMoH for her time in Tuzla!)
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To: SmithL
NY Times #1 Best Seller !!

Let's see for how many weeks.

They can only trash the messenger, not the facts that are well documented by Dr. Corsi

...even Jr.'s own words about taking koran classes while in public school in Jarkarta.

23 posted on 08/15/2008 8:10:13 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SmithL
Kerry was a decorated war hero...

Who put in for his own decorations, treating the equivalent of paper cuts as injuries, lying about supposed offenses committed by U.S. troops, lying about times & places in combat, lying, lying, lying!

Now that the Obomanation's lies are coming to light, the truth must be resisted at all cost!

24 posted on 08/15/2008 8:10:27 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: SmithL

Not wanting to “swift boat” a candidate is the same as saying “we don’t want the truth to come out.”

Let’s get the meaning of the words straight.


25 posted on 08/15/2008 8:11:13 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: SmithL

If Eugene doesn’t like sand in her panties, she shouldn’t play volleyball with the big girls.


26 posted on 08/15/2008 8:11:28 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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To: SmithL
The liberal Web site Media Matters has already demonstrated that the book is riddled with factual errors - for example, Corsi repeats the charge, thoroughly disproved, that Obama was in church for one of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's most incendiary sermons.

In 'The Greatest Speech Ever', Obama admitted he was in the pews when Rev. Wright made controversial statements. The one fact the author used to demonstrate Corsi's book contains lies is not even true.

27 posted on 08/15/2008 8:12:33 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
All of us must have missed this. All I heard was a bunch of libs screaming "Not true!".

You have to remember, that for a Donk, sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "LALALA LA LA LA!!! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!" is a valid rebuttal.

28 posted on 08/15/2008 8:12:52 AM PDT by gridlock (Barack Obama is the Sanjaya Malakar of American Politics...)
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To: SmithL
The lins mean that they do not want the TRUTH to sail again. the truth shoots down their candidates every time.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOIUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA



CHOOSING THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES




NOBAMA MOVEMENT SPREADS ACROSS THE NATION

29 posted on 08/15/2008 8:13:08 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: SmithL

Robinson has been in the tank for Obama for a long time. The problem with his article is that what Corsi wrote about Kerry was all true. Instead of attacking Corsi he should try and refute what he says in his book. But of course, he might have trouble doing that.


30 posted on 08/15/2008 8:13:16 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: gridlock

And on the other side of the page keep a list of any significant facts that are successfully refuted.

Here, I’ll start.

Zero.


31 posted on 08/15/2008 8:13:30 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: SmithL

Looking back not too far, today’s Swiftboating is akin to yesterday’s Keelhauling.

Both methods entail the delivery of just and realistic punishment.


32 posted on 08/15/2008 8:13:54 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: SmithL

John Kerry could clear all this up with one piece of paper.


33 posted on 08/15/2008 8:13:57 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Lee'sGhost

telling the truth about a liberal is “hate speech”


34 posted on 08/15/2008 8:14:06 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: SmithL

Where’s the Form 180?

Where’s the birth certificate?


35 posted on 08/15/2008 8:14:34 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SmithL
The allegations in that book were discredited, ...

As I remember, the most effective 'discrediting' was kerry and a few others reciting "nuh-uh, so there" in unison.

36 posted on 08/15/2008 8:15:15 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: SmithL

“Kerry was a decorated war hero, yet somehow his valor and sense of duty were turned into a political negative and used against him.”

Anyone remotely familiar with the military would be suspicious of someone who spent only four months in Vietnam, was awarded three Purple Hearts, but never missed any time due to wounds, and left Vietnam eight months early because he’d been awarded three Purple Hearts.

Anyone remotely familiar with the military would also know that it is a giant bureaucracy where all sorts of butt kissing and string pulling and favoritism can take place, just like any other organization.


37 posted on 08/15/2008 8:17:13 AM PDT by Will88 (.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I anticipate that like with John O’Neil, eventually the MSM will invite Corsi on their shows under the impression that they will be able to discredit him.

Unfortunately for them, like O’Neil, Corsi is proving himself to be quite adept at defending himself and his charges without throwing a tizzy.

Stand by to watch history repeat itself. has Lawrence O’Donnell recovered yet?


38 posted on 08/15/2008 8:17:31 AM PDT by wilco200 (Typical White Person)
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To: MrB

As Ann Coulter once stated, conservatives get angry if you lie about them. Liberals, on the other hand, get angry if you tell the truth about them.


39 posted on 08/15/2008 8:18:55 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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To: Will88

Wasn’t there a million dollar offer made (perhaps by one of the authors) if someone could actually discredit the arguments of the Swifties? I seem to remember that Kerry claimed they should send it to some charity because they were untrue but that was the end of his rebuttal.


40 posted on 08/15/2008 8:19:22 AM PDT by philled ("I prefer messy democracy to the stability of tyrants." -- Howar Ziad, Iraqi Ambassador to Canada)
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To: SmithL
Whether they “sail” or not is up to Obama. Corsi's book being #1 on the NYTimes bestseller list guarantees there will be a lot of people needing their questions on Obama answered. If he just brushes them off... he'll wind up like Jon Carry...

guilty-by-silence.

41 posted on 08/15/2008 8:19:28 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: skeeter

Kerry damaged his own campaign. Swift boaters just let the public know about his past.


42 posted on 08/15/2008 8:20:17 AM PDT by RC2
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To: JimRed
"Kerry was a decorated war hero..."

Who, with a little more than 3 months in-country, begged the Navy to let him go home early.

Everybody else had to do 12 months, including those under his command.

43 posted on 08/15/2008 8:20:26 AM PDT by cookcounty (Re Wm Ayers: 'sOKay ta be friends wid Da Ladykiller, cuz Da Mayr knowz um!)
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To: SmithL
Kerry is personally leading the charge on Corsi this go around.

I think we may have a case of "Sour Grapes"

44 posted on 08/15/2008 8:21:44 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RC2

This is in keeping with the leftist media’s MO of shooting the messenger when they don’t like the news. Just like the good totalitarians they are.


45 posted on 08/15/2008 8:22:07 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Ben Mugged

I bought two yesterday after reading the NYT ‘review’. Then I’m going to join a book club and study Obamanation with the audio tracks of BHO’s books. I hear that this emphasises the points in Corsi’s book in Obama’s own words.


46 posted on 08/15/2008 8:23:21 AM PDT by griswold3 (Al qaeda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: SmithL
It's interesting how assholes like Eugene Robinson must trash 20+ war vets (SBV’s) as all being liars in order to prop up a single vet (Kerry) who is a pathological liar. Then he suggests ANG members were “taking refuge” and hiding from the war. See, it has nothing to do with serving your country and everything to do with hating your country.
47 posted on 08/15/2008 8:23:26 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (National Enquirer - The paper of record.)
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To: SmithL; All

Instead of answering the questions of substantive issues, they are attacking Jerome Corsi.

Corsi may not be of the highest integrity, I don’t know, but if the facts are documented, let the facts speak for themselves. You don’t see any books being written defaming G. W. Bush or John McCain do you? There has to be some material to work with.

BTW, Corsi was on “Fox and Friends” this morning. The far-left website, Daily KOS, has posted his address on their website. He has been getting death threats.


48 posted on 08/15/2008 8:23:35 AM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: SmithL

Eugene Robinson is black.

Therefore, any criticism of his article is racist.


49 posted on 08/15/2008 8:24:29 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: SmithL

50 posted on 08/15/2008 8:25:47 AM PDT by rocksblues (Folks we are in trouble, "Mark Levin" 03/26/08)
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