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They are liars. All of them. (challenges MSM's version of events in Georgia)
Wordpress.com ^ | 8/15/08 | Daniel Usenko

Posted on 08/15/2008 2:27:26 PM PDT by XR7

I hope everyone has heard about the war in South Ossetia and Georgia. You probably are convinced by what the media reports, in particular that “Russia is the aggressor against innocent Georgia”. Our government is backing Georgia and also telling us about Russia’s aggression. But that is a lie. I have always made fun of the conspiracy theory people, but I find myself in the same position–criticizing the government and sounding crazy. But I cannot keep quite when such an injustice is going on; so please do not take my words as that of a crazy man who hates America–on the contrary, this country has given me many blessings for which I am endlessly thankful; I care about it and am deeply saddened by how effectively the media has fed us propaganda over the last week. Please read the following short account of my story:

I grew up in Abkhazia, a country only hours away from South Ossetia (see map below). I lived through the 1992 war between Georgia, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia. I have been bombed and shot at by the Georgians. Right now we are in contact with our family in Abkhazia and we receive information first hand with no media bias. I know what I am talking about.

Georgia attacked South Ossetia, destroying its capital Tskhinvali, killing innocent people; Russia came in to protect the Ossetians. If Russia did not step in, Georgians would further the attack and take over Abkhazia; my family would be slaughtered by now. Yet, I am absolutely shocked, absolutely astonished how the media lies to us, telling us “Russia was the aggressor”. I have never, NEVER thought this can be possible in the US–I always believed that the US government has good intentions. Not anymore. All I heard on the news is that “Georgia is an ally that Russia attacked” and similar such lies. George Bush is supporting Saakashvili, the man who lies left and right, and attacks innocent civilians. I cannot believe my ears.

I am not protecting the Russian government, because I do understand that it is likely corrupt also. Of course they are not innocent. However, that does not mean that WE Americans can support injustice just because it is going against the rival power Russia. The bottom line is that Georgia attacked first; they attacked civilians. Russians fought on behalf of the Ossetians. Yet, the media has zero coverage on the devastation of the South Ossetian people. This is just ridiculous.

Why am I writing this? I do not know what else I can do. I must speak the truth. I am paying taxes to the US government, which supports Georgia, which in turn bombs my homeland; in other words, I am funding the destruction of my own people. How can I keep quiet?

I know you don’t go to a photographer’s blog to read about politics, so I will stop now. Please do watch the videos below. Please be informed. Please feel free to ask me any questions (photodu@gmail.com). Please speak the truth.



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All is not as it seems.
1 posted on 08/15/2008 2:27:27 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7
All is not as it seems.

It never is.

2 posted on 08/15/2008 2:30:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: XR7
Creating nations based primarily on ethnicity is a recipe for disaster.

Merging with Georgia seems to me to be a wiser policy then merging back with Russia.

Expecting that Russia will somehow support an independent Abkhazia is a pipe dream.

The Abkhazians should have worked with the Georgians to create an autonomous region with strong ties to the Georgian government.

The Abkhazians got greedy and are reaping the whirlwind.

3 posted on 08/15/2008 2:31:52 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: XR7

When my two boys fight, they are both right—in part.


4 posted on 08/15/2008 2:33:29 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: XR7
I do not see how his family, which is at least 100 miles from the war zone, is getting it's unbiased info. I suspect that they get their news from the Russian media, which is far from unbiased. I wish his family peace and security but doubt they know anymore then their Russian rulers allow. It will be a long while before we truthfully know exactly what happened.
5 posted on 08/15/2008 2:35:43 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I agree. Standing up to the oppression of communism is one thing, getting involved in these ethnic squabbles leads to many problems.

It’s too hard to pick out a good guy.


6 posted on 08/15/2008 2:38:12 PM PDT by toast
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To: XR7

Why am I writing this? I do not know what else I can do. I must speak the truth.”

When I first processed and digested what happened there, my instincts told me that Georgia was the initial aggressor, but then Russia became embroiled in response to that. It is the conflict withing the conflict.

But as another Freeper mentioned yesterday, Georgia can not win a conventional war with Russia, and should avoid being drawn into a military conflict with them, for its own sake and survival.


7 posted on 08/15/2008 2:38:26 PM PDT by Canedawg
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To: XR7
Of course you are correct that Georgia's aggression against South Ossetia ignited this whole issue, anyone who cannot see this must have blinkered vision. The 95%+ Russian population in south Ossetia were under threat from Saakashvili and his troops.

Conversely, this was the perfect excuse for Putin to get his troops into Georgia, along with his drilling in the Arctic, it's linked to his plan to dictate energy supply throughout Europe.
8 posted on 08/15/2008 2:38:56 PM PDT by Lilith Incubus
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To: XR7
If Russia did not step in, Georgians would further the attack and take over Abkhazia; my family would be slaughtered by now.

And the author is certain that his family would have been slaughtered, how?

9 posted on 08/15/2008 2:39:15 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: Lilith Incubus
[T]his was the perfect excuse for Putin to get his troops into Georgia...

Well, sounds like some wankers gave him his excuse.

10 posted on 08/15/2008 2:41:33 PM PDT by XR7
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To: Revolting cat!
And the author is certain that his family would have been slaughtered, how?

Well, he posted his email address - why don't you ask him?
And then come back and share the answer with us.

11 posted on 08/15/2008 2:42:56 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7; rmlew; Clemenza
Georgia attacked South Ossetia, destroying its capital Tskhinvali, killing innocent people; Russia came in to protect the Ossetians.

And we know this how? I seem to recall that when the Germans started WWII, they dressed up some concentration camp inmates as Polish soldiers, shot them, then claimed that Polish soldiers had attacked Germans. Don't think for a minute that Putin wouldn't copy this deceit from the Nazi playbook.

12 posted on 08/15/2008 2:45:03 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: Dawnsblood

I heard Levin discuss this. This dude Saakashvili had first taken russians hostage during some conflict where they had first laid down their arms in front of the Georgians and then paraded them on State TV.

I had also heard about the bombing of the capital the writer discusses.

The writer is correct that only biased news is being discussed wrt this issue.

Saakashvili has to go.


13 posted on 08/15/2008 2:48:45 PM PDT by sauropod (What do Osama and Obama have in common? They both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: Lilith Incubus
It looks like Putin is a lot smarter than anyone we have in power.
14 posted on 08/15/2008 2:49:02 PM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: XR7

photodu@gmail.com

Does the du stand for Democratic Underground?


15 posted on 08/15/2008 2:49:21 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Duh.

What's the author's name?

Duh.

16 posted on 08/15/2008 2:51:37 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7
Oh, yeah, this is a REALLY unbiased source:

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/T4OVJ4DEMS67TBE7I

Daniel Usenko
Everett, WA

I am myself Russian, and I grew up in Abkhazia (the other break-away region of Georgia). I currently live in the United States.

17 posted on 08/15/2008 2:51:39 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: XR7
All is not as it seems.

Very true. The author neglected to mention he is Russian.

As Orwell once said, omission is the most powerful form of lie.

18 posted on 08/15/2008 2:54:11 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Lilith Incubus
"The 95%+ Russian population"

What about the 100% Human population of South Ossetia that over time would have done better as citizens of a free Georgia rather than as serfs under a rejuvenated Russian Czardom?

19 posted on 08/15/2008 2:54:44 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: XR7

Well his conspiracy theories would sure fit in over there.


20 posted on 08/15/2008 2:55:42 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: XR7

And if New Mexico decides to become part of old Mexico, your solution is what?


21 posted on 08/15/2008 2:58:33 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Paleo Conservative

Independent observers have so far supported the Georgian version and made the Russians look like liars.


22 posted on 08/15/2008 2:58:53 PM PDT by MarMema (Tavisuplebas dideba!)
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To: Locomotive Breath
And if New Mexico decides to become part of old Mexico, your solution is what?

Change the subject to Kosovo.

23 posted on 08/15/2008 3:00:16 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: sauropod
This dude Saakashvili had first taken russians hostage during some conflict where they had first laid down their arms in front of the Georgians and then paraded them on State TV.

They were Russian spies and were returned safely to Russia.

24 posted on 08/15/2008 3:00:19 PM PDT by MarMema (Tavisuplebas dideba!)
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To: XR7
The following was taken verbatim from the author's personal website:


About me

body piercing has saved my life     i try 
to hide the marks to help them 
understand but they doubt that i am
of course i must and if i'm wrong then i
must be     i see and they dont see and
then again they see im blind     we
think we know yet we do not    the
truth itself will show the truth it shows
today     captives are we and it is key

25 posted on 08/15/2008 3:02:01 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: XR7
Okay, the Georgians are the bad guys, and this is exactly identical with Kosovo, since the Georgians were herding people into the streets and murdering them right. So then the Russians are like the U.S. and NATO and have only intruded into the conflict area and stopped the fighting there right? Uh, but wait a minute. Seems they're continuing on into Georgia and proceeding to destroy all of the military hardware, personnel, and infrastructure that they feel like. And NATO did that in Serbia right? I'm sure the Georgians aren't saints, but I think Saakashvili is more unwise than evil.
26 posted on 08/15/2008 3:02:27 PM PDT by throwback
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To: XR7
Russia came in to protect the Ossetians.

So what are they doing in Poti?

27 posted on 08/15/2008 3:04:02 PM PDT by MarMema (Tavisuplebas dideba!)
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To: XR7

How about a brief history of the area? Who are the South Ossetians? Why did Georgia shell them? What are each groups interests that are in conflict?

We appreciate your perspective on this.


28 posted on 08/15/2008 3:05:21 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: XR7
“All is not as it seems.”
You mean like the part about the Russian backed [and armed] terrorists in South Ossetia shelling Georgian cities?

Russia was well prepared in advance of this and they were baiting Georgia.


I smell communist troll.
29 posted on 08/15/2008 3:05:30 PM PDT by Fichori (Obama's "Change we can believe in" means changing everything you love about America. For the worse.)
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To: MarMema

I dunno about this one.

You might have to call in another air strike...

;)


30 posted on 08/15/2008 3:07:05 PM PDT by Fichori (Obama's "Change we can believe in" means changing everything you love about America. For the worse.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Yeah. Strange poem.
Gotta admit, I liked his Texas Project.
Did you check it out?


31 posted on 08/15/2008 3:07:12 PM PDT by XR7
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To: MarMema

Hadn’t heard that. Do you have a credible news story available that I can read about this?


32 posted on 08/15/2008 3:08:31 PM PDT by sauropod (What do Osama and Obama have in common? They both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: XR7

I like his photography, yes, I haven’t checked out his Texas Project.


33 posted on 08/15/2008 3:08:32 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: Revolting cat!

Where do they come from, these interlopers? Body piercing has saved my life? Weird.


34 posted on 08/15/2008 3:09:28 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Dead Dog
How about a brief history of the area? Who are the South Ossetians? Why did Georgia shell them? What are each groups interests that are in conflict? We appreciate your perspective on this.

I don't have one.
I thought I did, but then came across this fellow's blog.
That part of the world is one helluva mess.
We can joke about sitting back and munching popcorn, and I have made plenty of those wisecracks.
But then, there are real people bleeding.

35 posted on 08/15/2008 3:10:24 PM PDT by XR7
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To: Dawnsblood

That’s what I was thinking. They are not in South Ossetia, so how does his family know anything except what is being reported on in Russian TV?


36 posted on 08/15/2008 3:11:02 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Dawnsblood

That’s what I was thinking. They are not in South Ossetia, so how does his family know anything except what is being reported on in Russian TV?


37 posted on 08/15/2008 3:11:03 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: XR7
I thought I did, but then came across this fellow's blog.

And it turns out he neglected to mention he's Russian. And you can't be bothered to address that signficant detail that he omitted.

38 posted on 08/15/2008 3:11:53 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: ZX12R
Body piercing has saved my life? Weird.

Actually, you can buy that mass-produced bumper sticker in most "Christian" bookstores.

39 posted on 08/15/2008 3:12:06 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7
You know, this guy reminds of another more famous communist that has chosen to live in the U.S. The other day my local paper put Gorbachev’s latest apologetic for this war on the editorial page. Why is it that these communists that so love their country can't bring themselves to live among the ashes of their beloved motherland, and stay the h_ll out of our country. It was your bed Gorbi, go sleep in it.
40 posted on 08/15/2008 3:12:17 PM PDT by throwback
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To: sauropod

It was posted here and read on Larry King last night.
Human Rights Watch and some others....


41 posted on 08/15/2008 3:12:50 PM PDT by MarMema (Tavisuplebas dideba!)
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To: Lilith Incubus

Who does the territory of South Ossetia belong to?

Regardless of the population, who does the land itself belong to? How can you commit “aggression” against yourself?

What they should have done is expel all Russians from that territory. Then they can’t claim that Georgia attacked the “Russian people”.


42 posted on 08/15/2008 3:13:06 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: dirtboy
And it turns out he neglected to mention he's Russian.

Funny.
You seem to have discovered that in short order.
And so what?

43 posted on 08/15/2008 3:13:37 PM PDT by XR7
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To: isrul
"It looks like Putin is a lot smarter than anyone we have in power."

That's the truth.
And it's troubling.

44 posted on 08/15/2008 3:13:46 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
What about the 100% Human population of South Ossetia that over time would have done better as citizens of a free Georgia rather than as serfs under a rejuvenated Russian Czardom?

I think it's important that South Ossetians decide what leadership and culture they want to live under, and as they're essentially broken away from Georgia, one must assume that they don't want to be part of Georgia.
It's not for the west to decide if they will be better off long term with Russia or not.

Living in the EU is far from free by the way, our culture has been massacred by the EU, our populous is indebted to foreign banks, our entire reliance on future energy supplies is dictated by the very Czardom you speak of.

45 posted on 08/15/2008 3:14:22 PM PDT by Lilith Incubus
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To: Revolting cat!

Because the Russians told him so.


46 posted on 08/15/2008 3:15:09 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: XR7
Actually, you can buy that mass-produced bumper sticker in most "Christian" bookstores.

I never go to Christian book stores. Perhaps I can find one at a freak bookstore.
47 posted on 08/15/2008 3:17:06 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: lizol; Lukasz; Grzegorz; sergey1973; knighthawk; SJackson; MadIvan; NormsRevenge; Calpernia; ...

ping.


48 posted on 08/15/2008 3:17:44 PM PDT by XR7
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To: dirtboy

And here we have it. He is a Russian citizen.


49 posted on 08/15/2008 3:17:44 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: XR7
You seem to have discovered that in short order.

Amazing thing, Google. I searched his name and this was the fourth or fifth item. I guess it would have been too much trouble for you to do the same.

And so what?

If I have to explain why to you, you're beyond the help of logic and reason, because you have deliberately chosen to disregard them.

50 posted on 08/15/2008 3:18:44 PM PDT by dirtboy
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