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Scientific evidence invalidates Phelps Beijing 2008 Olympic swimming gold, world records?
Doping Journal ^ | Aug 14

Posted on 08/15/2008 8:55:02 PM PDT by DemonDeac

"Did you notice that Michael Phelps wears earphones and is listening music just before his every Olympic start, at Beijing's Olympiad Water Cube pool deck, be it finals or semifinals? I first noticed that before his first gold swim on August 10: Phelps removed earphones 2 minutes before the start, and he was the only swimmer who worn earphones at the pool deck. Intriguing scientific evidence testifies: Listening to music improves blood oxygen capacity and is a performance enhancement."

"So what? Can one call listening to music shortly before entering the swimming pool for competition a performance enhancement? Yes, say both Koelsch and Cherniak. If so, how long could this enhancement last? "Duration [of the effect is] not certain, from seconds to minutes," adds Koelsch. Beijing Olympic and world records by Phelps fall into the expert's projected time frame. Yes, testifies Dr. Vance Bergeron, of Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon, Laboratoire de Physique in Lyon, France: "[M]usic next to the swimming pool, less than 2 minutes before the start could indicate performance enhancement because of transient increase of blood oxygen capacity.""

"Straightforward ruling results in a straightforward conclusion: Listening to music through earphones before the start is in line with other measures prohibited. Therefore, Phelps' Beijing swimming golds is faked and should go to others who battle for it fairly."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008olympics; china; doping; music; olympics; teamusa
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Talk about a serious case of hatorade. I guess nobody else is allowed to have an iPod.
1 posted on 08/15/2008 8:55:02 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: DemonDeac

The Doping Journal is well named.


2 posted on 08/15/2008 8:56:10 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: DemonDeac

Hatorade. LOL

By the tanker truck.


3 posted on 08/15/2008 8:57:13 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Jeff Head

The journal for dopes?


4 posted on 08/15/2008 8:57:18 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: DemonDeac

Is this another site alias for Scrappleface?


5 posted on 08/15/2008 8:57:37 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: DemonDeac
So, I take it that other countries are jealous that we don't get pumped up listening to good old rock!.. They are just as free to listen to a Rocky soundtrack before they work out.. trust me, it works...
6 posted on 08/15/2008 8:57:40 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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To: DemonDeac

Good one! Hysterical responses from fans will even be better! Shall we post the “Leave Michael Alone!” pic?


7 posted on 08/15/2008 8:58:05 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: DemonDeac

It ain’t the music it’s the breathing.


8 posted on 08/15/2008 8:59:48 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: DemonDeac

All this time I thought it was his crooked teeth that were aiding him.


9 posted on 08/15/2008 9:00:41 PM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: DemonDeac

Obviously the drugs are given through the inner ear from the Ipod...............


10 posted on 08/15/2008 9:03:00 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: DemonDeac
Talk about a serious case of hatorade. I guess nobody else is allowed to have an iPod.

OK with that, as long as they allow my Toshiba Gigabeat.

11 posted on 08/15/2008 9:03:24 PM PDT by sionnsar (Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: DemonDeac

And he probably eats saltpeter so his “rudder” doesn’t create drag.


12 posted on 08/15/2008 9:03:44 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: DemonDeac

So....what’s loaded into the iPod?

One guess: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfp9bzzTbBw One Vision.


13 posted on 08/15/2008 9:04:03 PM PDT by Sax (this idea was not a practical deterrent, for reasons which, at this moment, must be all too obvious)
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To: DemonDeac

Is this from The Onion?


14 posted on 08/15/2008 9:04:46 PM PDT by Redbob ("WWJBD" ="What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: DemonDeac

Is this the same lab that chased Lance Armstrong and Floyd Landis? Probably not but it’s in the same vain. Get over it......Michael Phelps is the best.


15 posted on 08/15/2008 9:05:10 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Sax

“So....what’s loaded into the iPod?”

The Bush/Cheney Swimming Modulator!;)


16 posted on 08/15/2008 9:06:00 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: DemonDeac

This is the second time I have seen this. This time it dawns on me that perhaps singing to oneself would also have the same effect. So I guess singing two would be viewed as doping? Shows how stupid this is.


17 posted on 08/15/2008 9:07:25 PM PDT by JLS
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To: TASMANIANRED
Dr. Koelsch says that "music can have influences on the breathing rate (e.g. via emotional effects such an increased arousal) which will alter oxygen levels in the blood, or relaxing effects (so that fewer muscles consume oxygen, which also increases oxygen levels)." He says that his group "has reported clear changes in breathing rate on a conference last year, with breathing rate being higher during pleasant music."

The small difference in breathing rate of someone at rest will be hugely overshadowed by the effect that extreme physical exertion has on breathing. To know if music makes a difference, it would have to be tested under the same circumstances.

18 posted on 08/15/2008 9:07:29 PM PDT by bluegirl
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To: Jeff Head
Cue the music to "Eye of the Tiger"

Risin up straight to the top
had the guts got the glory
went the distance now I'm not gonna stop
just a man and his will to survive

It's the eye of the tiger
its the cream of the fight
risin up to the challenge of our rivals
and the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night
and he's watching us all with the eye of the tiger

19 posted on 08/15/2008 9:07:30 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Obamacide - how to kill a nation in one easy election.)
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To: DemonDeac

And I am reading excessive Free Republic the evening before a race. Do I have a competitive advantage? (Hope so!!!)


20 posted on 08/15/2008 9:08:22 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: DemonDeac
This is the information about the journal:

The journal aims to take a prominent position as the journal of choice for the publication of original peer-reviewed science, case reports and news stories covering all areas of the journal scope.

Now, go to their argument. How about cheering? It surely also give something that change the blood oxygen.

21 posted on 08/15/2008 9:08:25 PM PDT by paudio (Kerry had Global Test, Obama has Global Tax.)
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To: Frank_2001

Or Dianetics, by L. Ron Hubbard./Just Asking - seoul62......


22 posted on 08/15/2008 9:08:26 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: DemonDeac

Who writes this tripe; Cheech and Chong?


23 posted on 08/15/2008 9:10:41 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

“Dave’s not here.”


24 posted on 08/15/2008 9:11:23 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: DemonDeac

Nothing new.

Why do you think military units have buglers, bagpipes, or drums? It’s part of the troops getting motivated for the kill. Martial music exists not only for the feet but also for the spirit.


25 posted on 08/15/2008 9:12:11 PM PDT by Ben Reyes
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To: DemonDeac
Article M1. ENHANCEMENT OF OXYGEN TRANSFER The following are prohibited: 2. Artificially enhancing the uptake, transport or delivery of oxygen...

Straightforward ruling results in a straightforward conclusion: Listening to music through earphones before the start is in line with other measures prohibited.

Pretty flawed reasoning. Music, even recorded music, is not "artificial," but a natural part of life for all peoples of all cultures. Hence on its face their logic fails.

26 posted on 08/15/2008 9:12:24 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: paudio

I’m starting to think that this may be a deliberately tongue-in-cheek article to illustrate how broadly-worded the WADA guidelines are. At least, I’m HOPING so.


27 posted on 08/15/2008 9:14:00 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: paudio

“Now, go to their argument. How about cheering? It surely also give something that change the blood oxygen. “

They should get rid of competition too. Guys go faster when being pushed by others. Make all swimmers and runners go alone. And make sure it is in an empty stadium.


28 posted on 08/15/2008 9:14:21 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: DemonDeac

This is some serious BS, but I’ve always thought Olympic swimming medals were a bit cheap anyway due to the fact that they do the same distances using different strokes and call them seperate events. It’s like running the 100m dash forward, backwards, and hopping on one foot. How many medals would Carl Lewis have won under those circumstances?


29 posted on 08/15/2008 9:14:24 PM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: DemonDeac
Alexei Koudinov and The Doping Journal have no competing financial interests.

Hmmmm, sound's like he is still mad at the Russian hockey team being trounced by the USA team in the 1980 Olympics...

30 posted on 08/15/2008 9:17:08 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: vladimir998

And written by dopes.


31 posted on 08/15/2008 9:22:59 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: DemonDeac
Don't forget encouraging words... They should be banned, too, as increasing blood supply. And, yeah, those ladies nearby - babes should be strictly prohibited - does the increase in testosterone rings a bell?!

Cheerleaders and fans are controlled substance now. Well, what else... did anyone notice unusual body movements Phelps was making before the start - he must be required to stand still for at least 10 min before entering the water, so no artificial circulation enhancement will alter the results. I'm sure we did not know everything, eye movements, for example must be investigated...food, air, water, sleep patterns, swallowing of the saliva...
32 posted on 08/15/2008 9:24:20 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: alecqss

I think they need to get rid of coaches too.


33 posted on 08/15/2008 9:25:07 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: DemonDeac

Oh, yeah, that one definitely. Thank you for correcting the oversight. Coaches are biggest doping of all.


34 posted on 08/15/2008 9:26:24 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: SandRat

Aww man, y’should’a taken the reds.


35 posted on 08/15/2008 9:30:30 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: DemonDeac

And that’s already on the list of banned ‘substances’ - right?

Right?

What a nasty bunch of twits...

there are always people so little that they live to tear down the good - ‘subliminal jealously’

Jerks


36 posted on 08/15/2008 9:31:09 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a lot of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: DemonDeac
Oh, and BTW - I noticed one of the Chinese swimmers do quite a slapping of his muscles routine just before diving in.

I imagine that would do about the same thing - get he blood, muscles pumped up.

SO WHAT!

They also eat big meals to replace the calories they lose - will those be banned an ‘enhancement’ also.

Inanity raises it's ugly head - as usual

37 posted on 08/15/2008 9:34:59 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a lot of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: DemonDeac
Damn this is desperate. Sad.

But there is some basis to it. Frequency following response. Amongst other things. Oh, and there's that whole listening to Beethoven makes baby smarter schtuff.

In this case the accusation is ridiculous. They would have had to have tested every swimmer before and after each event to even begin to prove there was a competitive advantage. Obviously this hasn't been done or they would have presented the evidence.

People are claiming the officials screwed the US women's gymnastics team out of a gold by disrupting one girls routine and destroying her concentration, and now this rag is floating what they must see as justification for destroying Phelps routine before his swim. Will it work? Who knows? If he loses they will try to cite it as proof of their theory. One wonders if the next events if one of his tougher swims? What better time to disrupt his routine?
38 posted on 08/15/2008 9:35:29 PM PDT by Khepri (The McCain camp called me a "suicide voter". So be it. I'm a terrorist. Reagan Martyrs Brigades)
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To: DemonDeac

I’ll have you know, Phelps listens to music that he hates, just to make the race fair for the other swimmers. If he only listened rockin’ tunes, he’d beat even more hell out of those chumps.


39 posted on 08/15/2008 9:41:41 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: DemonDeac

Take all those floor gymnastic medals back too then.


40 posted on 08/15/2008 9:45:42 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: beezdotcom

I would say this is a joke too but I saw what happened to the American girls in gymnastics yesterday.


41 posted on 08/15/2008 9:48:05 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Ben Reyes

The bagpipes are to annoy the troops enough to kill...


42 posted on 08/15/2008 9:50:18 PM PDT by null and void (Barack zerObama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: DemonDeac

Watch a quarterback throw a touchdown. Headphones are your next shot. It’s par for the course and 25 years old.


43 posted on 08/15/2008 9:53:34 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: tickmeister
This is some serious BS, but I’ve always thought Olympic swimming medals were a bit cheap anyway due to the fact that they do the same distances using different strokes and call them seperate events.

Do you really know anything about swimming?

44 posted on 08/15/2008 9:56:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DemonDeac

Nobody is stopping the other swimmers from listening to music. It’s not an unfair advantage.

What next? Ban anyone with size 14’s because feet like flippers give them an unfair advantage?


45 posted on 08/15/2008 9:59:02 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DemonDeac

Okay... Scotty, beam me up. There’s no intelligent life on this planet.


46 posted on 08/15/2008 9:59:35 PM PDT by rivercat
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To: DemonDeac

Sour grapes.

He’s breaking his own records and he’s been coming onto the pool deck with headphones on for years. I noticed that a lot of swimmers did that in the last Olympics.


47 posted on 08/15/2008 10:01:23 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; tickmeister
Do you really know anything about swimming?

Don't bother. Anyone who could post the following...

"I’ve always thought Olympic swimming medals were a bit cheap anyway due to the fact that they do the same distances using different strokes and call them seperate events"

has probably never been in a pool.

48 posted on 08/15/2008 10:02:47 PM PDT by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: metmom
"This is some serious BS, but I’ve always thought Olympic swimming medals were a bit cheap anyway due to the fact that they do the same distances using different strokes and call them seperate events"

Same here. Why doesn't Track have the 100m Freestyle, 100m Backward Sprint, the 100m AllFours, and the 100m Bunny Hop?

They do it in swimming so white people can win something, too.

(Yes, I'm white as wonderbread)

49 posted on 08/15/2008 10:12:03 PM PDT by cookcounty (Re Wm Ayers: 'sOKay ta be friends wid Da Ladykiller, cuz Da Mayr knowz um!)
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To: DemonDeac

Stupidest thing I ever heard.


50 posted on 08/15/2008 10:13:43 PM PDT by dila813
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