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Obama: "Biggest Mistake" Was Vote to Help Terri Schiavo
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | Thursday February 28, 2008 | Peter J. Smith

Posted on 08/16/2008 9:30:20 AM PDT by cpforlife.org

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To: MHGinTN

I am sorry but when I read the Constitution, I do not see where it is granted the power to go into Special Session for the sole purpose of involving itself in personal matters of a private family.

It does not sound like something that a Small Government Conservative would advocate.

But there seems to be very few of us Small Government Conservatives around these days.


51 posted on 08/16/2008 12:07:46 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: nobama08
As for family disputes involving removing someone from life support,

That's all I need to read from you. You are obviously clueless on the case - deluded by the death cult.

52 posted on 08/16/2008 12:09:01 PM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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To: don-o

Are you sure you meant to reply to me? I am entirely pro-life.


53 posted on 08/16/2008 12:13:21 PM PDT by nobama08
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To: trumandogz; Jim Noble
"John McCain should promise to keep the House and Senate in session 365 days a year simply for the purpose of resolving family disputes over the life support of a family member."

This response is not relevant to the case being discussed, because nobody was asking the House and Senate to "resolve family disputes." The purpose of their involvement was to allow a Federal Court to review the case to determine if Mrs. Schiavo's rights were being violated: the type of review which we routinely grant to convicted criminals under sentence of death.

No citizen, as Constitutionalists know, is to suffer the loss of life, liberty or property without due process of law. In this case, a county probate judge (County! Probate! Judge!) ordered a woman's death without ever seeing her, without even a smidgeon of written or otherwise documented evidence that she "wished to be killed," and without considering whether her legal guardian should be an estranged husband who had abandoned her medically and maritally, who has spent down trust funds which were supposed to be used to be used for her support, and who would further profit from her demise.

I personally think that Jeb Bush was derelict in his duty to uphold the Florida Constitution by failing to act to prevent the killing. But while getting a review in Federal court was not the most savvy move tactically, it was not a matter of presumptuous government meddling. Certainly not.

The woman in question had the right to have her intrests represented in court: especially her most fundamental interest, the right to simply go on living.

54 posted on 08/16/2008 12:20:55 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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To: don-o
One thing he is making clear...and all Christians will have this on their conscience for voting for him...: he is making his beliefs about life, death, family (not his own) and every other matter that is of concern for Christians very well known. Later, should he win, he'll be able to say that it was with the consent of Bible-believing Christians backing him all the way. He will be able to say that they gave him the mandate to do as he pleases because he was up-front about his stances from the beginning.

Nice guy he might be. That doesn't alter his beliefs. Many a nice guy has turned out to be ‘the devil in disguise’.

55 posted on 08/16/2008 12:42:21 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: don-o
One thing he is making clear...and all Christians will have this on their conscience for voting for him...: he is making his beliefs about life, death, family (not his own) and every other matter that is of concern for Christians very well known. Later, should he win, he'll be able to say that it was with the consent of Bible-believing Christians backing him all the way. He will be able to say that they gave him the mandate to do as he pleases because he was up-front about his stances from the beginning.

Nice guy he might be. That doesn't alter his beliefs. Many a nice guy has turned out to be ‘the devil in disguise’.

56 posted on 08/16/2008 12:43:54 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: nobama08

Yes. I meant to reply to you. I copied your own words. The part about “life support.” That’s where you are off track. Give that a think and get back to me.


57 posted on 08/16/2008 1:18:35 PM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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To: trumandogz

Why not keep the Congress in session 365 days a year for the sole purpose of intervening in family disputes?

First off.. who said anything about keeping them in session all year for that?
Second.. do you call murder a “family dispute?”

If a governor can give a reprieve to a convicted murderer, the president can give a reprieve to an innocent woman.


58 posted on 08/16/2008 2:13:22 PM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: Awestruck

So advocate the Federal Government stepping in to stop a family and doctors from making the decision to pull a family member from life support?


59 posted on 08/16/2008 2:21:19 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

It is a liberal tactic to mischaracterize ... as in ‘for the personal matters of a private family.’ That you do not see the Schiavo case in a broader context than a private matter on the national stage where issues of right to life as unalienable speaks volumes on the state of your deadness. You keep it up and the disgust level will be intolerable. But then, it doesn’t seem to register with you anyway ...


60 posted on 08/16/2008 3:57:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Again, if the Schiavo Case was a matter that is much larger than a private family matter, why is it that the Congress does not get involved with every family faced with an end of life decision.

I have been involved in such a decision and that decision was made with the input of family, doctors and clergy and not a Special Session of the United States Congress.


61 posted on 08/16/2008 4:20:54 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
Since it is a sure thing you cannot be as stupid as your repeating the same flawed argument indicates, I'm left to conclude you have a democrat party or libertarian agenda which isn't really about the right to live. Get another staightman to feed your ego, skippy. I'm through responding to your foolishness.
62 posted on 08/16/2008 4:51:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Okay, I see you are unable to answer the question: “What made Terri Schiavo more important than all the thousands of other people who have been removed from life support over the last few years.”

And if Terri was not more important than all those other people, why is it that Congress has not intervened to save the lives of all those thousands of other people?


63 posted on 08/16/2008 5:26:19 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

this was not pulling a family member from life support.. this was the slow, methodical torture of a woman whose only “life support” system was food and water. Research the case.. yes, I do advocate the feds stepping in to stop torture and murder of an innocent woman by her husband.


64 posted on 08/16/2008 5:39:11 PM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: Awestruck
I do advocate the feds stepping in to stop torture and murder of an innocent woman by her husband.

My family and I have had to make such a decision.

Would you like to charge me with murder?

65 posted on 08/16/2008 9:19:29 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: cpforlife.org

bttt


66 posted on 08/16/2008 11:12:27 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: cpforlife.org

More evidence that obama is the most wickedly political person to run for president in my lifetime.


67 posted on 08/16/2008 11:54:52 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: cpforlife.org; narses
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


68 posted on 08/17/2008 4:20:01 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All

Mor on Obama Nation of Islam today at our link above...

8mm


69 posted on 08/17/2008 4:25:24 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: trumandogz

really? so you decided to petition the courts to withold food and water from your wife? you let her starve and dehydrate to death, slowly and painfully? And did you have any evidence that she wanted to die in a way that we are not allowed to do to dogs and prisoners in this country?
If so, then yes, you should be charged with murder.
There is clearly so much you don’t understand about what happened to Terri.. she was NOT on any life support (unless you count food and water as life support), and there was no evidence (other than the word of a cheating, abusive husband) that she wanted to die in this horrible, painful, slow fashion.
Catch a clue.


70 posted on 08/17/2008 8:14:39 AM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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