Skip to comments.Rick Warren: Vanity
Posted on 08/16/2008 10:31:29 AM PDT by Chong
I received an email from my pastor about Rick Warren's interview with "those two" on CNN and also received another email from an old timer freeper FRiend warning me about Rick Warren.
Please share with me what you know about this man and what he stands for (without in-fighting if you can? 'Cause you are not going to change anybody's mind by arguing?)
Gotta go run some errands but will check back in when I come back, so don't think I am being rude by not replying right away.
There are volumes of threads in the Religion Forum about Rick Warren. Suggest you take a peak over there. Always wise on FR to do a subject search first. I’m just sayin’...
Pinging a few folks who might be able to point you to the current discussion.
When I come back, I will do some search. Didn’t realize that there were discussion threads about him here. Been too busy to come here as often as I used to.
I posted the following a short time ago on another thread.
Lets see. Rick Warren has sold 35 million copies of his book “The Purpose Driven Life”. Good for him. He has an Email newsletter that is sent to 180,000 religious leaders, decimating his thoughts on a multitude of topics and subjects matter. Okay. Warren is also well known for advancing certain issues beyond traditional religious ministries. Hmmm.
Sounds like progressive preaching with a purpose driven agenda, front and center.
What I find troubling, is how can Rick Warren invite someone to his ministry, who professes to be a man of faith, yet condones and promotes abortion on demand. Its a total disconnect for me. Btw, this will be Obama’s second visit to see Warren.
Jim Wallis is America's foremost spokesman for the Religious Left. Bob Edgar, of course, is the former head of the National Council of Churches. Catherine Pinkerton sits on the Obama campaign's Catholic Advisory Council. Anybody see a pattern here? Just to drive the point home, consider the boards of directors and advisors of the FLP, which include such luminaries as: Story Continues Below Ad ↓
*Board of Directors president Meg Rlley, Director of Advocacy and Witness for the Unitarian-Universalist Fellowship.
*Elizabeth Letzler, member of the PCUSA's Mission Responsibility Through Investment committee and the Israel-Palestine Network (i.e., an Israel divestment proponent). She's also been "deeply involved" with FaithAmerica.org, an NCC outfit.
*Nazir Khaja, a Muslim leader who also sits on the board of the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Rights.
*Fred Rotondaro, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, run by Bill Clinton's ex-chief of staff John Podesta, which is basically a Democratic Party research organization.
*Susan Thistlethwaite, president of the UCC's Chicago Seminary, well-known to readers of this blog for her contributions to the Washington Post's "On Faith" column.
*Jim Winkler, General Secretary of the United Methodist Church's General Board of Church and Society, who also sits on the board (with Communist Party USA leader Judith LeBlanc) of the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation.
So don't really expect serious questions related to faith and Christianity. These people are more interested in gay rights and abortion rights than evangelism.
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Another explanation could be that the guy has changed, or that media reports on his activities are less than accurate. The latter is probably least likely.
Christ, which will likely make him unpopular with just about everyone depending on the issue.
That's a first.....
I read (sorry, no source) that he will be asking an abortion-related question of McCain/Obama today after all.
Who knows the nature of the question? I guess we’ll see.
It seems to me he wants to be the next “go-to” guy for “evangelical” opinion. That’s just my impression.
I don’t have a problem with a pastor meeting with Obama, or Achmedinijad, or Charles Manson for that matter. However I don’t like what Rick Warren is doing today, as it seems to be an endorsement, a sort of a “both guys are the same, both are acceptable” message.
Totally wiped them out?
Anyway I don't see a problem with him inviting both candidates to his church to discuss issues, religious or otherwise. What better way than to expose Obama’s real views than an hour of unscripted Q&A before people who really do take these issues seriously, instead of the usual perfunctory interviews and scripted answers from the drive by media and staged debates?
So you change people's minds by... what? ...exactly?
Agreeing with them?
What is most clear about Rick Warren, and paramount to what you need to know about him is: Rick Warren is ALL about Rick Warren.
Billy Graham is getting old, ya' know.
A am no big fan of Warren, but:
Warren did email religious leaders, the ones I know of are not lefties by any stretch of imagination, asking them to submit questions he would consider using tonight.
One other thing, Warren is a Christian and believes in the same triune God Christians on FR believe in, regardless of those with whom he may associate and minister. Christians need to stop beating up each other.
Oops. Spellchecker did its job. We all have a brain fart now and then.
I don’t see a problem having both candidates sit down and discuss any issues. That part of politics is good. However, inviting a pro-abortion candidate to his house of worship, isn’t an appealing aspect of Warren’s faith. Not something I’d do.
My point was, I see Warren as a new age religious leader, with a progressive ministry based on a liberal agenda. Many people have compared him to Billy Graham and Robert Schuller. I don’t think he measures up to either man.