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The oxygen crisis
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 8/13/08 | Peter Tatchell

Posted on 08/16/2008 3:35:25 PM PDT by gridlock

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To: gridlock

The greatest scientist of his day predicted it but Lord Kelvin was so wrong.

http://zapatopi.net/kelvin/papers/end_of_free_oxygen.html


21 posted on 08/16/2008 4:00:29 PM PDT by Swiss
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To: Porterville
“The high oxygen levels allowed for giant insects and lush fern forest.” [excerpt]
Plants are carbon based.

High oxygen levels does not make plants grow at high rates.

Plants need CO2 to grow. (CO2 is plant food)

Somewhere here on FR I recall something about the earth being at its greenest in a long time.

High CO2 levels mean plants grow fast.
22 posted on 08/16/2008 4:01:54 PM PDT by Fichori (Obama's "Change we can believe in" means changing everything you love about America. For the worse.)
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To: gridlock
From the author's profile on the Guardian...

Peter Tatchell is a human rights campaigner, and a member of the queer rights group OutRage! and the left wing of the Green party

Maybe that explains why his math seems a little queer.

23 posted on 08/16/2008 4:04:47 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: KarlInOhio
Many would just lapse into unconsiousness. In which city is that happening?

In the nation's Crapital...er, Capital.

24 posted on 08/16/2008 4:05:07 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: KarlInOhio

You cannot deny that considerable portions of LA and San Fransicko have long since lapsed into unconsciousness, particularly in the areas in and around their respective City Halls.


25 posted on 08/16/2008 4:05:34 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: rfp1234

GMTA, mate!


26 posted on 08/16/2008 4:06:04 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Fichori
Whatever happen to "logic" and "simplicity"...Plant a tree...Harvest lumber in high burn areas...

I always think of the earth rushing in its' orbit around the sun at 67,000 mph...and wonder what we get pummeled with on our journey. It's not like the earth is a stagnant mass and everything around it is controlled by the human elements.

27 posted on 08/16/2008 4:11:34 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Fichori
Somewhere here on FR I recall something about the earth being at its greenest in a long time.

I might be the "guilty party". For several months, I've been citing a study of satellite photography. One of the findings was that the earth is more forested now than at any time since the technology was developed. And that there has been a steady year-to-year increase in forested acreage.

This only makes sense. The time of massive timber use has come and gone worldwide (RR ties, telephone poles). Moreover, what we used to make of wood might now be made of aluminum or plastic. All those farms that grew oats for the horses in the cities have reverted to forest. Since the Dust Bowl days, treelines have become common on the Great Plains where there were none before. The Siberian taiga hasn't experienced any meaningful pressure since the sixties.

If, as the Greenies claim, "the Rain Forest is being destroyed", it sure is happening at a snail's pace.

Plus, of course, the eminent demise of the dead-tree press will significantly shrink the need for paper worldwide. The libs can surely take satisfaction from this development...

28 posted on 08/16/2008 4:16:50 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: gridlock

Don’t laugh. They’ve probably seen the writing on the wall for CO2 and are starting on the next scare. The only question is how they can cash in on it and use it to control every aspect of people’s lives.


29 posted on 08/16/2008 4:18:02 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: Fichori
Plants take in CO2 and release O2.
30 posted on 08/16/2008 4:18:39 PM PDT by reg45
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To: KarlInOhio

Conservatives pass out from oxygen deprivation sooner than Democrats because of more brain cells to feed. The thin air is why Denver voted 70% for Kerry/Edwards. Conservatives can’t function well there. Still alcohol increases the effects of altitude and we’re going to see some especially bizarre behavior coming out of this election’s Democrat confabulation. They won’t be invited back for years to come.


31 posted on 08/16/2008 4:20:42 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: gridlock; MurryMom; Liz; writer33; AT7Saluki
Compared to prehistoric times...

...not much has evolved in the RAT party...


32 posted on 08/16/2008 4:23:48 PM PDT by Libloather (August is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Fichori
You are right. I also made a mistake and called the Paleozoic the Pre Cambrian.

However, the high levels of oxygen for the 100’s of millions of years did have an effect on the plant growth simply because of the variation in atmospheric pressures.

Nitrogen would have decreased in proportion to the increase of Oxygen. Thus, the weight of atmospheric pressure (all things being equal) would increase adding perhaps to the rigidity of nonvascular ferns allowing them to grow more massive....

perhaps..

But, who cares. The point is, I can play Mr. Knowitall jerk too and I usually win.

33 posted on 08/16/2008 4:26:10 PM PDT by Porterville (would you rather live in today's britain or yesterday's CCCP?)
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To: gridlock

There should be an award for this article. Something like the Urban Illiterate Journalist award. This is such stupidity that it is barely describable.


34 posted on 08/16/2008 4:28:35 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: gridlock
Compared to prehistoric times, the level of oxygen in the earth's atmosphere has declined by over a third

Which "prehistoric times" is this idiot talking about? The levels have never been constant. I doubt the drops in oxygen levels shown here were caused by the burning of fossil fuels.


35 posted on 08/16/2008 4:28:35 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: Swordmaker

No, they MAKE them in journalism school. They aren’t idiots when they go in. Hey, it takes a lot of time, hard work and training to make somebody this dumb! Have some respect for the massive effort this takes. It isn’t easy, I can assure you. lol.


36 posted on 08/16/2008 4:28:40 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: KarlInOhio
...you would be gasping for air and barely able to move. Many would just lapse into unconsciousness. In which city is that happening?

San Francisco.


37 posted on 08/16/2008 4:30:02 PM PDT by Libloather (August is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: gridlock

Help...can’t... breath...call...Gore....aaahhh!


38 posted on 08/16/2008 4:32:38 PM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: Nipfan
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Too much oxygen will burn your eyes over time.

Can I stop taking all these antioxidants yet?

39 posted on 08/16/2008 4:35:15 PM PDT by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: Obadiah
Liberals, hold your breath while there is still oxygen left.
40 posted on 08/16/2008 4:40:40 PM PDT by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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