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Posted on 08/16/2008 8:37:52 PM PDT by cpforlife.org
As we all remember from the 2000 election the MSM, more accurately called the Democrat Media believes Gravitas is extremely important. They talked about G-A-V-I-T-A-S more than any issue for quite some time. Bush was a very risky candidate because he lacked a certain level of, of, ah, hold it…GRAVITAS.
Now I just watched the Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency hosted by Rev. Rick Warren. Senators Obama and McCain were both asked essentially the same questions. And I have to say that while Sen. Obama did OK without his teleprompter Sen. McCain came off much more Presidential with much more weight and depth to his answers. He looked much better prepared to take office.
Sen. Obama seemed to lack a sense of ah, ah, of ah, ah, ah, ah, lacked ah, ah, sense of ah gravitas.
Since gravitas is such a crucially important issue for the media, I am wondering if they will start discussing it this upcomming week.
For those who watched the forum what do you think?
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_113007/content/01125114.guest.html
Gravitas Montage Explains It All
November 30, 2007
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: Here’s a theory for you. Let me ask you this. Last Wednesday, the day of the debate, what was everybody talking about? Bill Clinton’s flip-flop on Iraq and how he said on two different occasions, he said on Tuesday in Iowa, that he had always opposed the Iraq war. Everybody was out finding the quotes to disapprove that, and then what happens? Then we get this stupid CNN debate Wednesday night. Guess what nobody’s talking about it anymore? They’re not talking about Bill Clinton and his inconsistencies and his lying and his...normalcy, and they’re not talking about Hillary. We’re talking about stupid CNN. Is it a conspiracy? I’m not saying it’s a conspiracy. It’s just something to think about, because the Clinton News Network, says, “Why, we didn’t plant the brigadier general!” No, of course, you couldn’t plant the brigadier general — and “everybody” gets BJ’s in the Oval Office, and “everybody” runs around and cheats on their wife with 45 or 50 women. Of course! Everybody does it. Of course, you didn’t plant any of your own questioners at your own appearances, Mrs. Clinton. Oh, no! Of course not. (sigh) It’s just a total, 100% crock. I want to go back. I want to play this montage of “gravitas” I was talking about last hour. This goes back to the year 2000. It’s one of the all-time great montages, this happened within a day of President Bush selecting Dick Cheney to be his vice presidential running mate. You’re going to hear Al Hunt, Juan Williams, Claire Shipman, Steve Roberts, Vic Fazio, Jeff Greenfield, Jonathan Alter, former Senator Bob Kerrey, Margaret Carlson, Mike McCurry, Sam Donaldson, Eleanor Clift, Walter Isaacson, Mark Shields, Judy Woodruff, and Sam Donaldson — and none of these are repeated.
HUNT: He is a man who meets all George W.’s weaknesses: lack of foreign policy experience, lack of gravitas. I think now when Gore is trying to make the case of lack of gravitas against George W. ...
WILLIAMS: Now we look and we see the son, who is seeking some gravitas, to say to people that he is an intelligent man...
SHIPMAN: There is a lot talk they are looking at older candidates, candidates with gravitas.
ROBERTS: He’s had health problems, uh, he’s worked for a Big Oil company, but he has the gravitas. You can sum it up in one word: stature.
FAZIO: I really believe that George W. Bush needed that perhaps more than anyone in recent memory because, if there is a rap about him, it may go to the gravitas issue.
GREENFIELD: If the question about Governor Bush was one of the weight, or to use the favorite phrase of the moment, “gravitas”...
ALTER: What he gets here is grav-i-tas, a sense of weight, competence, and administrative ability.
KERREY: I’ve gotta strengthen it in some fashion. I’ve gotta bring gravitas to the ticket.
KERREY: He does not need anybody to give him gravitas!
CARLSON: It means that Bush, you know, Gore has experience and gravitas.
McCURRY: I think he also needs to demonstrate some gravitas, too.
DONALDSON: ...that he was put on the ticket, but by former President Bush, to give gravitas to the ticket.
CLIFT: Well, Dick Cheney brings congeniality and he brings gravitas.
ISAACSON: He does seem to bring some vigor as well as gravitas and stature to the ticket.
HUNT: It’s called “gravitas.”
NOVAK: Right.
SHIELDS A little gravitas!
WOODRUFF: You certainly have gravitas tonight.
DONALDSON: Displayed tonight a certain gravitas.
RUSH: Now, I don’t care. I don’t care how it happens. I don’t care whether they all got together and decided, or one person used it and they all decided to mimic. They are who they are, and that montage is a good illustration.
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Ironically, Bush had much more gravitas when he ran for President. Obama is by far the most inexperienced and naive person ever to be the nominee of a major party.
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Obama is the poster boy for that old saying, “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls-—!”
Im a contractor and if he was at home depot waiting for work i would not even pick his a$$ up
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You're kidding, right? The useful idiots of the LSM will do everything in their power to portray today as a great day for the Obamessiah and a disaster for McCain.
Yes, but isn’t that an insult to BS. I mean really.
Tonight, Obama used the age-old technique for a non-leader:
‘If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull&%$#.’
Will they bring up his hair dye jobs? He has been going back and forth gray and not gray. Yesterday his hair was not gray, tonight, gray. Someone is playing with his appearance to try to ‘age’ him, most likely to give him the appearance of experience.
it’ll be fun to watch the msm and see their reactions when they realize that obama is a
dud!
Fat chance.
I look forward to waking up in the morning and catching the MSM spin. Should be great TV.
dud!
And the more exposure he gets, the worse he does.
My, oh my, what is the MSM to do now?
I think they go all the way with him. They have invested everything in him.
They do have to be very nervous right about now, I would imagine. Not because tonight changed so many minds, but because they know the debates are looking like disasters for the messiah, and people will be watching those.
so what makes anyone think the MSM will address his lack of gravitas,,,,
or the fact he is the most inexperienced, most unqualified and most extreme candidate that either major party has ever nominated??
you’re right. they have to go all the way with him.
because they’d look like racists if they didn’t.
and liberal-socialists do not like looking like racists.
I do so wish there ahd been a continuous camera feed on the audience during the Obamessiah;s segment. I have a feeling there were cameras running, but we the people will not be shown that level of truth.
The things Obama seems most serious about is advancing Marxism and abortion. What he should be running for president of is Planned Parenthood. But I think his wife is better qualified for that job as well as for POTUS. She's got much more gravitas than Barry has.
McCain has more Gravitas in his baby toe.
I bet Michelle had to give him mouth-to-mouth resuscitation after the show......or maybe she gave him a pop to the chops instead (if she was even there).
Leni
Can you imagine their look at his abortion and marriage “answers”
I had no plans to watch but sat through it all. I still don't like McCain at all but he makes Barry look like a poodle. Hell, the puff ball on the tail of a poodle. LOL
For you my FRiend...
</Sarcasm ></fun at Obama’s expense>
On the tip of the tail?... I’m thinking closer to at the base, like in the stretch zone.
Monday’s Rush show will be a classic!
All I know is that democraticunderground is absolutely LIVID at MSNBC and CNN. I don’t get MSNBC, so I was shocked by that.
The whining and spin there shows they know deep down they are in trouble.
But Obama is so “deep” and “thoughtful.” At least those are the magic words used by his worshippers to explain his inability to give straight answers.
Oh yes. I don’t want to miss Rush or Hugh on Monday.
The truly sad part is, the Lame Stream Media will really do all they can to make it look as if he was presidential tonight.
Obama’s got anti-gravitas.
The guy's a joke and we could all laugh if he was running for President of the Council of Tinytown, eight miles south of Nowheresville. Aside from the issues I am amazed they found someone so completely void of substance. “Empty suit” does’t begin to cover the bases.
No.
But these leftist 60’s relics in the MSM think that nobody else will either. They thought that once they rose to power and controlled TASS in the USA, it would be all good.
This looked like a contest between an Olympian and a high school athlete! How the media can even say that Obama did a good job is beyond me. His uming and ahing and his continuous head listing thirty degrees to the starboard side for almost the entire interview.... wow.
The DBM was working overtime to ttry and imply Obama was presenting on the same quality level as McCain.
Obama is just a light weight.
I think today really proved up that Obama is the “accidental senator”
Never forget, Obama was a throwaway candidate going against a well funded republican. The republican later self destructed due to his divorce from star trek’s gerry ryan (seven of nine)
And here I thought you served gravitas with pork roast. /S
You forgot the liquor. A kahlua president. Deceptively alcoholic.
The MSM is huddling to see how they spin this to help the Empty Suit, who showed tonight he is not ready for prime time and never will be.
And Hillary’s phone is ringing off the hook, with superdelegates begging to vote for her. Watch her sound very Presidential-like in the next few days.
The purpose of the superdelegates was to prevent the Dems from committing political hari-kari by going with a severely flawed candidate like they did with McGovern.
Now the SDs are crapping bricks because they know Obama is going to fare badly against McCain. All the king’s horses and all the king’s men can’t put Obama-Dumpty back together again.
The Berlin speech and tonight’s disastrous performance have sealed Obama’s political fate. Now all that is needed is a graceful way for him to exit the stage( Michelle comes down with a life threatening illness or some such). Hillary will promise him an appointment to a useless Cabinet post so Michelle can once again be proud of America, as part of the deal.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall in the Dem leadership circles in the next 8-10 days.I can hear Hillary’s War Room gearing up now.
Hillary will be presented as the savior to the Dems.
But she will remember who wasn’t there for her when she needed them. That’s why Edwards is political burned toast right now. And akin to suddenly converted businessmen rushing to kiss the Godfather’s ring before he deals with their faulty loyalty, so are the SDs rushing to get on Hillary’s good side before the Convention.
I watched the Forum. MAC KICKED B. HUSSEIN’S BUTT!!!!
Use DNC BS output to create Bio fuels. This should more than replace MidEast oil. Coupled with DNC BS Bio seals to keep our tires from leaking will completely end gas consumption.
Get Algore and Speaker Pelosi on the Red phone. Were gunna save the world! Well what are you waiting for!
TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
Saturday, August 16, 2008 11:59:35 AM · by XR7 · 2,019 replies · 55,048+ views
First McCain MUST pick a true Pro-Life conservative, otherwise he's toast.
Then there are three(?) actual debates. After the first one I think we'll be there.
Yes. Outstanding thread. Great job!
If Hillary becomes the Dem nominee, McCain will be toast.
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