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Posted on 08/17/2008 9:24:11 AM PDT by MHGinTN
Another FreeRepublic Op-ed For the political season (#4 in a series)
This op-ed addresses the stunning duplicity in Obamas presentation which is being carefully ignored in the media. When a democrat candidate tries to invoke scripture, to deceive We The People, somebody really should call the liars on it! Obamas lack of familiarity with Bible passages glared at us from the seat next to Pastor Rick Warren, yet the media are meticulously avoiding the laser beam in their eye.
From the Saddleback transcript:
From the Saddleback transcript:
Obama: I THINK AMERICA'S GREATEST MORAL FAILURE IN MYLIFETIME HAS BEEN THAT WE STILL DON'T ABIDE BY THAT BASIC RECEPT IN MATTHEW [caption Mathew chapter 25 31-46] THAT WHATEVER YOU DO FOR THE LEAST OF MY BROTHERS, YOU DO FOR ME.
R. Warren: YOU DO FOR ME, YEAH.
Obama: AND NOTION OF -- THAT BASIC PRINCIPLE APPLIES TO POVERTY. IT APPLIES TO RACISM AND SEXISM. IT APPLIES TO, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING -- NOT THINKING ABOUT PROVIDING LADDERS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS. I MEAN, THERE IS A PURVASIVE SENSE I THINK THAT THIS COUNTRY IS WEALTHY AND POWERFUL AS WE STILL DON'T SPEND ENOUGH TIME THINKING ABOUT THE LEAST OF THESE --
R. Warren: ABOUT THE COMMON GOOD, THE COMMON GROUND AND COMMON GOOD.
Heres what that passage from Matthew's Gospel actually says, and please note the verse 40 admonition of doing to the least is doing to Jesus if the children surviving an attempted abortion are not the least of Jesus brethren, then there isnt a cow in Illinois and Barack Obama is a great Bible teacher for the democrats!
Matthew 25:31-40 [KJV]
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Folks, Barack Hussein Obama worked hard to prevent a bill from passing that would have protected babies who are born alive following an attempt to kill them in their mothers womb!
When Obama stood to oppose the born alive infants protection bill, he argued that to extend protection to the survivors of abortion attempts would convey personhood upon these alive, born children, and thus invoke the Constitutional protection of the fourteenth amendment. And according to Barack Hussein Obama protecting these babies via the Constitution would be anti-abortion in nature so he would not support the bill! In other words, Barack Obama does not want to defend the least among us and wants to define these least as not persons because the Constitution would protect them and Barry doesnt want them protected and in fact wants the murder of these little ones to continue as legal slaughter of the least among us.
And Jesus instructed: Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye did to one of these my brethren -- the least -- to me ye did.
I seem to recall something Jesus said about millstones around the necks of those who harm one of these little ones, the least of Jesus brethren.
Now what is Barrys collar size again? Is it too early to fit him for his millstone?
The recently released Jerome Corsi book, Obama Nation, has a very damning section on Obama's demagoguing the issues we deem 'pro-life/anti-life'. Corsi highlights several points (pages 237 - 240):
1) On March 30, 2001 Obama was the ONLY Illinois senator who rose to speak against a bill that would protect babies who survive late-term abortion
2) In 1997 Obama voted in the Illinois Senate AGAINST a bill designed to prevent partial birth killing of alive, sensing unborn children
3) Obama has consistently voted to expand embryonic stem cell exploitation
4) Obama has consistently voted against requiring minors to notify their parents if they seek or obtain an out of state abortion
5) Obama is a zealous supporter of planned parenthood which operates the greatest percentage of their killing clinics in black and under privileged neighborhoods
6) Obama has told Planned Parenthood that if he is elected president he will prevent opponents of Roe v Wade from being appointed to the Supreme Court
7) Obama has consistently ignored the FACT of the great harm abortion has done to the African-American communities
The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
If the mouth is moving of John McLaim or Barry Obama they are lieing about they have done, are doing now, or will do in the future.. One is a Weasle the other is a Skunk..
I personally couldn’t beleive he actually said that and to a religious crowd. Evidently scripture is also above his pay grade?
But there are! It is called staying in school, and getting a real job instead of going into drugs &/or prostitution; or popping out babies to get on the Welfare Wagon.
Worrying more about developing one's mind & a work ethic, than developing street cred.
And, unfortunately, we still have the remains of that other big one, Affirmative Action.
Barry’s weasling attempt to fool the crowd into believing he is somehow against abortion waw pathetic. Bottom line is Barry has a 100% rating from NARAL. McCain has a 0% rating from NARAL. It doesn’t get much clearer than that.
I’ve always thought it particularly horrible that so many blacks eagerly cooperate with the Democrats, who pay them to help kill off their own children.
In fact the origin of the eugenics movement in the U.S. began with white, neo-Darwinist racists such as Margaret Sanger, who wanted to kill off the children of those whom they considered to be inferior—blacks, Indians, Asians, and so on.
This was Obama's BIGGEST gaffe of the night.
Immediately, as Obama said this answer, I thought, "how can he say this and not see that 'the least of my brothers' HAS to apply to the unborn???!!!" How does Obama consider himself a Christian and NOT see that this passage does apply to unborn children, surely, "the least" of Jesus's brothers in the modern world???
Then didn't he also try to explain that Jesus would be pro-choice? Obama claimed that answering in specificity about when a child deserves rights was "above his pay grade" and yet it has not been above his pay grade for him to declare with specificity when a child DOES NOT deserve rights. He can't have it both ways. His answer contradicts his policy positions, his actions, words, and record.
No, Mr. Obama, Jesus would not support the liberal abortion policies of the Democrats. Jesus would include the unborn among "the least of my brothers."
This thread is about Barry Soetoro, not McPain. Personally, I think JOhn McCain showed he’s presidential material last night, and Barry showed he’s color commentator material for MSNBC or CNN or Hell, but not ready for primetime in the White House.
His handlers fed him that line as a way to woo the congregants. It is unlikely he ever actually read the passage in context since he failed miserably to recognize the judgment he was heaping upon himself by claiming that passage for his impetus!
P.S. Someone should remind Barry that he is running for the highest “pay grade” there is. He darn well should have an opinion on when life begins.
I guess (?) Barry was inferring that God is the highest pay grade.
And he’s #2?
That it was an astonishing gaffe escaped the media all together it appears ... or is it that they have so little familiarity with the scriptures and can be manipulated so easily? ... This election cycle is more disgusting than any I can remeber, and I’m 63, so I even recall the Stevenson/Ike battle for the nomination.
The two states he missed are the great state of Alaska and great state of Grace.
That quote still gets me laughing, and I’ve seen it many, many times!
What does Obamanation think ministers and priests are paid? Definitely below his pay grade.
What a dorky answer!
**That it was an astonishing gaffe escaped the media all together it appears ... or is it that they have so little familiarity with the scriptures and can be manipulated so easily? ... **
You’ve got that right. I don’t think reporters even bother to look up the referenced “PRECEPTS”.
LOL at his use of the word RECEPT — what a ding-bat.
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I assume you mean from a political, spin perspective, and I don't disagree.
BUT, what is most astonishing is that it exposes his actual beliefs and principles. To not connect "least" in the quote with a born baby left to die untreated, especially after all the hearing and discussion with which he has been involved, exposes what the REAL Obama is capable of as President, despite his "friendly" front. Think about that when you reflect on his call for the creation of a uniformed, civilian security force ("Obama's Brownshirts") and the type of 'cold blooded' tasks he would direct them to carry out.
The transcript may have been generated by a computer voice recognition system, so he may have said precepts but the computer missed the “P”.
The other gaffe was this comment about it being "above his pay grade" to determine when a child deserves rights and constitutional protection. But, he considers it within his pay grade to say when a child does NOT deserve rights and protection. This was a huge gaffe. He is clearly without a clue in this area. He does not even see the contradictions. If he doesn't know and it is "above his pay grade," how can he be so cocky, confident, and sure when to declare an unborn child does not deserve constitutional rights and protection from bodily harm and murder?
The scandal of his bizarre moral theology gets goofier each time he opens his mouth on these subjects. That he quoted the Gospel of Matthew on "the least of my brothers" apparently without being aware this should apply especially to the unborn and recently born, and to unwanted children is...beyond words. Did he really NOT know this when he started his answer and alluded to the Gospel? Does he really think Jesus would side with abortionists? That Jesus doesn't think the unborn deserve rights?
As soon as I heard him quote "the least of my brothers" and allude to Matthew, immediately, the VERY moment he said this, I thought, "is he REALLY going here???!!!" Because he is going to lose this one if he can't see it applies to unborn and unwanted children.
The problem with the moral theology at Trinity United and the theological mind involved here is it is not very logical and has these kinds of strange, kooky contradictions. It's not just a "God Damn America" theology but also a "God Damn the Unborn" theology. Whatever that is, it's not Christianity. Christianity does not teach that it is acceptable to take the life of the unborn. There are very specific guidelines and rules about the taking of human life which require clear "self-defense" conditions. It's a very serious matter. Christians can't claim this is "above their pay grade."
Frankly, it offend sme personally when the democrats try to use scripture passages, out of context, to promote their godless party. For thirty years the democrap party has used the slaughter of alive unborn little ones as an empowerment scheme for their political party! Their current nominee for president even defends the killing-by-neglect method of offing the alive little ones! And now these bastards with a “D” so proudly displayed after their names try to cite Bible passages and twist the words of Jesus to promote their demonic rites? Disgusting!
....along with his plans to basically disarm....taking $$$ away from developing our missile defense and being the “example to the world” by getting rid of nuclear weapons. The guy is totally inept.
As a fellow Christian wrote in a recent freepmail, the millstone Jesus alluded to was a very large object that took a donkey to turn! No one swims with that around their neck when cast into the sea. Hence the question ‘What’s Barry’s collar size?’
“Even the devil can quote scripture.”
This says it all.
This world-class gaffe missusing Matthew 25 reminds me of the democraps using ‘He who is without sin, cast the first stone’ and ‘Judge not that ye may be judged’ out of context in their sycophantic worshipful defense of their sexual degenerate demigod, sinkEmperor clintoon. Disgusting.
I don't see it that way.. America is confused about socialism.. Many christians(whatever that means) think that the new testament preaches socialism.. alludes to it.. or implys it.. I do not.. I see both candidates as socialists.. not to speak of Hillary and most of the pre primary republican and all democrat candidates..
America is confused and so is "the american church" generally.. Capitalism creates wealth, socialism uses that wealth UP.. incrementally, actually, and in any iterance of it.. Socialism is a scam, bad logic, and a negative economic factor.. The debate at Saddleback is/was a debate between two socialists.. and two globalists besides.. What they say is one thing what they will do as president is totally occluded.. BOTH of them.. one a weasle the other a skunk..
Obama may not be as bad as he portends to be, and McLaim may not be a good as some say he will be.. Am I too cynical?.. Maybe.. But probably not.. They both could be Plan "A" or Plan "B" of a shadow government.. WHich I suspect..
Wow, indeed it does! I wonder, do you think Barack Obama has ever read Mathew 25:31-46? His handlers must have read it all in order to use that teaching from Jesus in so twisted a fashion as to support social issues while ignoring the slaughter of ‘the least of Jesus’ brethren.’ Lotta millstones headin’ for the deep blue seas, don’tchaknow.
Did you catch that he wants the U.S. to fund "health programs" around the world to prevent orphans from being born (i.e., UN/World Health Organization abortion services). He's the Soros/UNICEF candidate for president. They want him heading the UN after finishing as president. He seems only to half understand the globaloney agenda, reading from cue cards in clumsy answers. It's like a kid in a fifth-grade Social Studies class repeating globalist propaganda from a UN or National Geographic documentary. How can the U.S. fund global "health programs" when many American citizens aren't even insured? It doesn't make any sense. Uninsured Americans are already paying taxes which go to FOREIGN AID???!!! And Obama wants more crackpot global socialism. The Dems just can't kill unborn children fast enough. They want more.
I hope not. Christianity and Jesus's ministry completely aside, first-century Jews did not countenance abortion.
Obama cant spiain his way out of this one...
His misuse of that scripture has already bit him in the butt...
Every Bible reading Christian got the glaring hypocracy ...
If the “least” of us are not the tiny unborn babies that he is guilty of slaughtering, then who are they ????
Poverty ??? Racism ??? Sexism ???
Yes, abortion is all those...
Racism - a black genocide
Sexism - Often girl babies are murdered in the womb
Poverty - a lack of compassion and mercy for the least of us, the unborn babies..
Obama has innocent blood on his hands as if he had held the abortionist’s knife and done the actual murder...
He can say “out damn spot” and misquote Bible verses, but he cannot excuse his condoning the deaths of even babies who have been born...
What is evil, Obama ????
Look in the mirror...Your abortion pushing ways are, Obama...
Only the precious blood of Jesus can defeat evil...
Jesus does not agree with what you are doing to millions of unborn and newly born babies...
But His blood was shed to cleanse you from your sin...
Turn from your evil ways, Obama...
Ask Jesus to forgive you and make you whole...
Who are the least of these, “my brothers” ???
The unborn in the womb.....
Hard to dispute that it is a distinct possibility.
Corsi has done some of that in his book. You would expect National Review, The American Conservative, or a journal like First Things to examine and expose his bizarre ideas and the theology and leftist ideology behind it. Citing Matthew and excluding the unborn from the Lord's injunction is pretty weak theology. He has exposed himself with these gaffes in the civil forum. It's out there. Someone needs to create a site focused just on his gaffes and errors. From the "bitter" comment about people "clinging to guns and religion" to these latest gaffes on abortion and scripture.
It it's "above his pay grade" to know the answer about when children deserve constitutional protection, maybe he's not up to the job.
Obama is trying to put the best face he can to the Evangelicals, and the “social gospel” is the only thing he can offer them. Unfortunately, his past rhetoric on abortion and, what can only be termed infanticide, tells us that the face he is hiding from them is radical in the extreme. To think Republicans want to starve children, or deny minorities access to the middle class is typical of his liberal, racist-baiting campaign. To think Democrats support infanticide doesn’t seem so improbable, given their hard-line position on abortion. It has to be defended at all costs, even up to killing those babies who happen to survive the attempt to kill them.
It has to be defended at all costs, even up to killing those babies who happen to survive the attempt to kill them.
Actually that has to be unConstitutional...
if a criminal is sentenced to death and the attempt to put him to death fails, they stop trying...and his death sentence is commuted..
After a certain number of attempts it becomes torturous psychologically, and cruel and unusual punishment and violates his rights...
If the unborn have personhood, they would at least fall into this catagory...
I THINK AMERICA'S GREATEST MORAL FAILURE IN MYLIFETIME HAS BEEN THAT WE STILL DON'T ABIDE BY THAT BASIC RECEPT IN MATTHEW [caption Mathew chapter 25 31-46] THAT WHATEVER YOU DO FOR THE LEAST OF MY BROTHERS, YOU DO FOR ME.
IMHO Democrats should stop their 'What Would Jesus Do', 'Jesus Would Be A Democrat' and quoting Bible passages, or attempting to, all in order to push their socialist ideas. It's offensive and sacrilegious (grossly irreverent toward what is held to be sacred) - they are mocking God and Jesus with their selective picking and choosing.
But since Barry is so knowledgeable of 'Matthew' I'm sure he knows this part too....
Matthew 25, The Parable of the Ten VirginsJesus would not be a democrat.
At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep. At midnight the cry rang out: 'Here's the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!'
Lastly, Barry should remember this from Matthew 22: Tribute to Caesar
- Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps.
- The foolish ones said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.'
- 'No,' they replied, 'there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.'
- But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.
- Later the others also came. 'Sir! Sir!' they said. 'Open the door for us!' But he replied, 'I tell you the truth, I don't know you.'
- Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour (wherein the Son of man cometh).Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regardest not the person of men. Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites? Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them,Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
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