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Pimps, Pedophiles: Welcome to S.F. (City prepares to legalize child prostitution)
RealClearPolitics ^ | 8/17/2008 | Debra Saunders

Posted on 08/17/2008 7:16:50 PM PDT by mojito

A quick reading of the measure that will go before San Francisco voters in November to decriminalize prostitution easily could leave you with the misimpression that the measure is an exercise in fairness that demands that prosecutors go after men who abuse prostitutes and implement policies "to reduce institutional violence and discrimination against prostitutes." A careful reading of the initiative, "Enforcement of Laws Related to Prostitution and Sex Workers," however, shows a measure that shields child prostitution and traffickers of human beings.

"If I had just heard from the proponents, I would probably vote for it myself," said the Rev. Glenda Hope, whose San Francisco Network Ministries helped found the Tenderloin AIDS Resource, in the mistaken belief the measure is meant "to protect women." But as the executive director of SafeHouse, a residential center that helps women get off the streets, Hope knows too much.

Hope knows that the average age of entry into prostitution is 12 to 14. The office of San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris, who opposes the initiative, has encountered prostituted children as young as 9 years old.

Yet the San Francisco ballot measure completely ignores the prostitution of children. The measure simply states, "Law enforcement agencies shall not allocate any resources for the investigation and prosecution of prostitutes for prostitution." Astonishingly, there's no exemption that encourages police to enforce the law for minors.

If the measure passes, the city is likely to become an international haven for pimps who peddle girls and boys, and perverts seeking sex with minors.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: anytwosomenewsom; baghdadbythebay; bluezone; libertine; moralabsolutes; onesickcity; prostitution; ratcrime; sanctuaryfrancisco; sanfrancisco; sf; sodomandgomorrah
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At one time, San Francisco was one of the most beautiful, engaging cities in the world.

Today it is a cesspool of degradation and vice. If this measure passes, and I'm sure it will, the ruination of the city will be complete.

1 posted on 08/17/2008 7:16:51 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Sodom by the Bay.


2 posted on 08/17/2008 7:21:36 PM PDT by rdl6989 (What isn't above Obama's pay grade?)
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To: mojito

This thread posted in April sure makes sense:

SAN FRANCISCO : Mayor battles a trend of families leaving city

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1897604/posts


3 posted on 08/17/2008 7:23:10 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: mojito
Two thoughts. It's about time someone legalized prostitution for adults.

Secondly, and probably opposing, when did SF becaome it's own state.

4 posted on 08/17/2008 7:24:09 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: mojito

That is disgusting. Lower than anything I have ever heard. Sick.


5 posted on 08/17/2008 7:26:43 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: mojito

San Fernasco has always been a “sanctuary city” for pimps and pedophiles.


6 posted on 08/17/2008 7:28:07 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (A History and Science Minute.- "Climate change" has been going on for millions of years!)
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To: mojito

“If the measure passes, the city is likely to become an international haven for pimps who peddle girls and boys, and perverts seeking sex with minors.”

Perverts seeking sex with minors? I though Frisco already WAS full of gay men?


7 posted on 08/17/2008 7:29:20 PM PDT by Grunthor (Dems want to destroy America, Republicans just want to be Dems.)
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To: mojito

I know a lot of child prostitution already goes on in San Fran, but maybe God will be merciful to us as a nation and send a great and terrible earthquake or maybe another big fire to that dreadful place.


8 posted on 08/17/2008 7:31:48 PM PDT by Force of Truth (Legalize the Constitution::::The power to tax is the power to kill.)
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To: mojito

Big earthquake soon. Watch it...


9 posted on 08/17/2008 7:33:29 PM PDT by devane617 (we are so screwed)
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To: mojito
If the measure passes, the city is likely to become an international haven for pimps who peddle girls and boys, and perverts seeking sex with minors.

I just can't understand what Debbie means by "become".

10 posted on 08/17/2008 7:33:39 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: freekitty
The measure prohibits city law enforcement from applying for grants to prosecute human traffickers. That's right, this measure gives a free pass to the human sex-slave trade -- in a city that is a central stop for international sex-trade rings. A proponent of the measure told Fox News that she believes that it will pass with 75 percent of the vote because the city is "sex-positive." The SAGE Project's Allen Wilson fears that the measure may prevail because the city has no shortage of rootless residents who "will vote for this because they think it's cool." For them, San Francisco is "one big sandbox."

This is corruption of the human heart at its most repellent and disgraceful. What have these people become? I shudder to think of a suitable answer.

11 posted on 08/17/2008 7:34:12 PM PDT by mojito
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To: purpleraine

“It’s about time someone legalized prostitution for adults.”

Not that I agree with it, but it is already legal in one state.


12 posted on 08/17/2008 7:36:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

I think that’s part of one state, IIRC.


13 posted on 08/17/2008 7:37:19 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: sionnsar

A morality ping for ya.


14 posted on 08/17/2008 7:44:46 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: mojito

one look at the pics of the fulsom street fair;
says it all about the perversion


15 posted on 08/17/2008 7:44:57 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: All
Has anyone asked Speaker Pelosi what her position on this measure might be? It is her district, after all.
16 posted on 08/17/2008 7:50:12 PM PDT by mojito
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To: freekitty

You ain’t seen nothing yet. Wait until after the rapture and no Christians are in the world to oppose these people.


17 posted on 08/17/2008 7:53:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: purpleraine

Yes.

It is restriced (AFAIK) to just LV.

Thank you for correcting that slip.

: )


18 posted on 08/17/2008 7:54:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
That's ok. I thought I'd made a mistake last year, but I was wrong.

I think you could build a FR career just going from thread to thread answering questions and correcting minor errors.

19 posted on 08/17/2008 7:56:19 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: mojito

“The SAGE Project’s Allen Wilson fears that the measure may prevail because the city has no shortage of rootless residents who “will vote for this because they think it’s cool.” For them, San Francisco is “one big sandbox.”

_______________________________________________________________________________

I’ve been reading about how families with children are now a rarity in Hedonism, U.S.A. This would be a logical consequence.

Anyone for building that “Escape from New York” containment wall?


20 posted on 08/17/2008 7:56:45 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: mojito

What we need is the Lex Luthor plan.


21 posted on 08/17/2008 8:09:48 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: mojito
"Astonishingly, there's no exemption that encourages police to enforce the law for minors."

The California Penal Code can not be overturned by any vote of the residents of San Francisco. While they may direct their Chief of Police to de-emphasize the arrests of prostitutes for a misdemeanor act, sex with children is still going to be a major felony.

22 posted on 08/17/2008 8:10:29 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let all Democrats have a half vote. They deserve it!)
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To: machogirl

After viewing those photos, there is no question I am now homophobic. I think people need to know the truth of what goes on, as sickening as these photos were.


23 posted on 08/17/2008 8:11:23 PM PDT by pops88 (geek chick over 40)
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To: UCANSEE2

No. Las Vegas (Clark County) is the only part of Nevada it isn’t legal. The law stated it is legal in counties with under a certain population. Currently, that is Clark County. That’s why the closest brothels are in Pahrump (where Art Bell used to live).


24 posted on 08/17/2008 8:48:19 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: mojito

The land of Pelosi and her constituents....there are no words that can describe such an abomination! I can do nothing but pray.


25 posted on 08/17/2008 8:52:39 PM PDT by mkcc30 (Save a Whale.....Kill a Terrorist!)
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To: mojito

This just in: God preparing to make Sodom and Gommorah a couch fire compared to what He’s got prepared for San Francisco.

Related headline: Pelosi calls God a ‘sexist, judgmental good-old-boy.’


26 posted on 08/17/2008 9:00:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: mojito

I’ve heard stories of entire neighborhoods in which the least expensive house is several million dollars which smell exactly like seal ****. The laws won’t allow anybody to touch seals OR white sharks, and the later have the former penned into the beaches and won’t allow them out into the ocean to use the restroom. Who’d want to live in such a place??


27 posted on 08/17/2008 9:07:26 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Force of Truth

And all the children will be crushed or burned.

Brilliant.


28 posted on 08/17/2008 9:24:06 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: pops88; machogirl

Look at photos from “Up Your Alley” street fair. When I viewed them, I started dry-heaving. Hopefully SF disinfected the streets and walls because of body fluids sprayed about.

There is a blogger, Zombietime, that has the pictures. He/she must have a strong stomach.

My grandmother lived in Oakland back in the 70’s and would take me to SF everytime I visited. SF was always my favorite city, not so much anymore.


29 posted on 08/17/2008 9:57:27 PM PDT by CaliGirl-R
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To: mojito

bump


30 posted on 08/17/2008 10:20:14 PM PDT by lowbridge ("I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it" - Van Den Boogaard)
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To: UCANSEE2

Prostitution is illegal in Clark County Nevada (las Vegas) It is legal though in neighboring Nye County.


31 posted on 08/17/2008 11:18:53 PM PDT by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing" only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: Wacka

You are getting much more specific than I ever could.

I’ve never been to Las Vegas, so I don’t know where the brothels are.

Thanks for the info, though.

: )


32 posted on 08/17/2008 11:45:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Army Air Corps; wagglebee

wagglebee?


34 posted on 08/18/2008 7:58:43 AM PDT by sionnsar (Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: mojito

well, if you catch someone having sex with a 14 year-old, prostitution laws have little to do with it. that’s rape and should be prosecuted as such. this proposal will not repeal the rape laws, right?


35 posted on 08/18/2008 8:05:01 AM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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To: mojito

Rev. 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say:
“Come out of her, my people,
so that you will not share in her sins,
so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
5 for her sins are piled up to heaven,
and God has remembered her crimes.


36 posted on 08/18/2008 8:09:01 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Choosing between McInsane and Obamapalooza is like choosing to ingest a slow or fast-acting poison.)
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To: wendy1946

The smell of seal **** is nothing next to the smell of bum urine, which is much more prevalent.
Basically every home in SF is a million dollars.


37 posted on 08/18/2008 8:11:41 AM PDT by Wacka
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To: FlingWingFlyer
My uncle is a Cab driver in San Francisco. When someone gets in his cab and tells him they are looking for some “action” he tells them...

“well the entire city is a whore house, centered on City Hall.”

38 posted on 08/18/2008 8:14:30 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: mojito
"Acts of capitalism between consenting adults".

The State's pedophilia statutes should take care of the "child prostitution" thing.

IMO... pedophilia should carry the Death penalty, but that's just me...

39 posted on 08/18/2008 8:17:44 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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40 posted on 08/18/2008 9:31:01 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: purpleraine
It's about time someone legalized prostitution for adults.

Just out of curiosity, is there ANY facet of social conservatism that you DO support?

41 posted on 08/18/2008 9:36:10 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Don’t make me read the replies. I don’t want to know how many FReepers showed up to support pedophilia, human trafficking, and prostitution. I probably wouldn’t be surprised by who supports it. It’s bound to be the same morally bankrupt morons that support all the other disgusting things that crop up. I just don’t want it thrown in my face again.


42 posted on 08/18/2008 9:47:40 AM PDT by BykrBayb (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain. ~)
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To: wagglebee

I just HAD to read this last post from you. Should I feign surprise?


43 posted on 08/18/2008 9:49:42 AM PDT by BykrBayb (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain. ~)
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To: BykrBayb

I’ve noticed that there just aren’t that many liberaltarian trolls around here anymore.

Just remember, DO NOT suggest that the degenerate freaks in SF have “mutilated” themselves because that is an insult to women who have had breast cancer.


44 posted on 08/18/2008 9:54:22 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: purpleraine
I think you could build a FR career just going from thread to thread answering questions and correcting minor errors.

So far it's worked for me!

45 posted on 08/18/2008 10:15:18 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: wagglebee

I support freedom and avoid nanny stateism. That’s the kind of conservatism I support. Is their any facet of social conservatism you don’t supprt or are you just wanting the government to control sin? Could you ever make a distinction between something you consider immoral and whether or not the law should prohibit it?


46 posted on 08/18/2008 10:25:17 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
: )

I am your protege'.

47 posted on 08/18/2008 10:26:21 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: mojito
the Tenderloin AIDS Resource

Ew. What a disgustingly icky-sounding name.

48 posted on 08/18/2008 10:28:12 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: mojito
"If I had just heard from the proponents, I would probably vote for it myself," said the Rev. Glenda Hope, whose San Francisco Network Ministries helped found the Tenderloin AIDS Resource, in the mistaken belief the measure is meant "to protect women."

That's exactly how most bad legislation gets passed.

49 posted on 08/18/2008 10:30:17 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: mojito

You wrote:

“At one time, San Francisco was one of the most beautiful, engaging cities in the world.”

From WIKI, this describes the turn of the last century in the city by the bay:

[”The Barbary Coast is the haunt of the low and the vile of every kind. The petty thief, the house burglar, the tramp, the whoremonger, lewd women, cutthroats, murderers, all are found here. Dance-halls and concert-saloons, where blear-eyed men and faded women drink vile liquor, smoke offensive tobacco, engage in vulgar conduct, sing obscene songs and say and do everything to heap upon themselves more degradation, are numerous. Low gambling houses, thronged with riot-loving rowdies, in all stages of intoxication, are there. Opium dens, where heathen Chinese and God-forsaken men and women are sprawled in miscellaneous confusion, disgustingly drowsy or completely overcome, are there. Licentiousness, debauchery, pollution, loathsome disease, insanity from dissipation, misery, poverty, wealth, profanity, blasphemy, and death, are there. And Hell, yawning to receive the putrid mass, is there also.”

The Barbary Coast rose from the massive infusion of treasure-seeking argonauts during the Gold Rush. Men from Europe, Asia, South America, Australia and the eastern United States sailed into San Francisco Bay bound for the Mother Lode, many only staying in the gold fields briefly before returning to San Francisco broke or with tiny leather sacks of nuggets and gold dust.

At the end of 1849, out of a population of between 20,000 and 25,000, only about 300 were women and an estimated almost two-thirds of those were prostitutes. Miners, sailors, and sojourners hungry for female companionship and bawdy entertainment continued to stream into San Francisco in the 1850s and 60s becoming the Barbary Coast’s primary clientèle. As the city exploded with the new arrivals, some with shady pasts, soon a wide variety of land sharks, con artists, pimps, and prostitutes staked out an area designed to pluck the gold and silver from the pockets of men through liquor, lust, laudanum-laced libations, or just a hard knock on the head.

Sailors in particular had cause to dread the area because the art of shanghaiing was perfected. Many a sailor woke up after a night’s leave to find himself unexpectedly on another ship bound for some faraway port. When there was a shortage of sailors for departing ships any able-bodied man who wandered into the wrong saloon, or drank with the wrong companion, could wake up with a mysterious hangover onboard a ship. Crime in the streets and corruption in the government offices plagued San Francisco in the 1850s.

Nearly all drinking and dancing establishments in the area were destroyed in the fire that followed the 1906 earthquake, but within months a dozen or so were rebuilt and back in business. Upon the ouster of Eugene Schmitz from the mayor’s office and following the P. H. McCarthy administration, the election of James Rolph Jr, the demise the Barbary coast as a vice zone picked up steam. Between the 1913 anti-vice campaigns led by the San Francisco Examiner and the passage of the 1917 Red-light Abatement Act, the Barbary Coast was effectively diminished and vice activities hidden from view. In 1917 the San Francisco Police blockaded the neighborhood and evicted the prostitutes]


50 posted on 08/18/2008 10:41:23 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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