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Journalists of Color Hit in Tribune Layoffs (Dinosaur Media DeathWatch™)
Maynard Institute ^ | August 15, 2008 | Richard Prince

Posted on 08/18/2008 11:03:02 AM PDT by abb

Paper "Is Where Minority Reporters Can Go to Die"

The Chicago Tribune laid off more than 40 newsroom employees on Friday, including a disproportionate number of journalists of color, according to newsroom employees there.

"Coupled with last week's voluntary exit of more than 30 journalists," the additional cutback "means the paper has cut 80 people from its editorial staff as part of cost-cutting campaign at all of parent Tribune Co.'s newspapers," Phil Rosenthal wrote on the Tribune's Web site.

Among those called in Friday and told their jobs were eliminated was Ray Quintanilla, a 14-year Tribune veteran. "It's sad because if you look at the list, it's heavily minority. It looks bad," he told Journal-isms. He said his marching orders came a day after he challenged a powerful white Tribune columnist who for the fifth time had hired a white assistant, asking the columnist if he had considered any people of color. He recalled that owner Sam Zell had told employees to question authority.

Quintanilla said the columnist publicly challenged him to a fight, and said he has filed a complaint with the Tribune's human relations department.

The reporter said he could not prove his layoff was related to the Thursday incident, but said, "It just smells bad to me."

Neither the columnist nor Tribune editor Gerould W. Kern could be reached for comment.

Other departing journalists of color included Norman O. Unger, an assistant editor; Mark Hinojosa, assistant managing editor for multimedia; Paul Iwanaga, a photo editor; Michael Martinez, Los Angeles correspondent; Gentry Sleets, graphic artist; and editors Donna Pierce, Emeri B. O'Brien and Jeffrey Williams, among others, according to a list compiled by religion writer Manya Brachear and other newsroom sources.

Hinojosa's exit follows the departure earlier this year of another high-ranking Latino at the newspaper, George de Lama, the Tribune's managing editor for news.

"I was looking forward to earning my 20-year pin in about 6 months, but alas: POOOOOFFFFFF. . . and he's gone with lots of great memories," Unger said in a note to colleagues.

"To all my friends," read the subject line in an e-mail from Williams. "Who have been family for nearly 20 years," his message began, "especially those on the copy desk and in the DuPage bureau, take care. And remember who you are: the world’s greatest journalists and the finest human beings I’ve ever known."

"'Endings are never easy,' Tribune editor Gerould W. Kern said in a note to staff, adding that 'with the departure of 80 individuals through today, the editorial staff of the Chicago Tribune stands at 480, the largest news organization in Chicago by a wide margin and one of the largest and most accomplished in the United States,'" Rosenthal's story continued. "'While painful, these staff reductions are necessary to establish the foundation for a sustainable future.'

"The latest round of cutbacks is the paper's fourth since late 2005, when the newsroom was said to have had 670 positions. Other departments at the paper have been making cuts, as well.'

Quintanilla, 46, said he expected more from the paper after he returned from covering Iraq in the early days of the war, which began in 2003. "The Tribune is where minority reporters can go to die. They get lost in the bureaucracy and they're ignored," he told Journal-isms.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dbm; dinomedia; layoffs; newspapers; tribune
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1 posted on 08/18/2008 11:03:03 AM PDT by abb
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To: 04-Bravo; aimhigh; andyandval; Arizona Carolyn; backhoe; Bahbah; bert; bilhosty; Caipirabob; ...

ping


2 posted on 08/18/2008 11:03:42 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Our company president created a Director of Diversity position and hired a woman of color from marketing. She reported to the President and attended all of the VP meetings. Her office was right next door to the President. It was a really high visibility position and he let us know that Diversity was extremely important to the company.

When income went south, she got punted back to marketing and her office went to yet another white guy.


3 posted on 08/18/2008 11:07:31 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: abb
"Quintanilla, 46, said he expected more from the paper after he returned from covering Iraq..."

i'm thinking of naming my next son "quintanilla" so that he won't bear the brunt of youthful teasing. wait, oh never mind.

4 posted on 08/18/2008 11:08:17 AM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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To: abb

http://blogs.tampabay.com/media/2008/08/st-pete-times-s.html
St. Pete Times staff told no layoffs coming, after strong response to early retirement offer

http://blogs.chicagoreader.com/news-bites/2008/08/17/tribune-casualty-list/
The Tribune casualty list

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0808/Tribunes_Tackett_leaves_for_Bloomberg.html?showall
Tribune’s Tackett leaves for Bloomberg

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/17/sunday/main4356479.shtml
Inside The National Enquirer

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/business/media/18carr.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=all&adxnnlx=1219082735-EuI3BqIrQMuKVYUfRPopmA
The Enquirer: Even Scandal Can Be News

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12594.html
McCain protests NBC coverage

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/17/AR2008081702373.html
The ‘Frill’ Is Gone: Papers Forced to Cut D.C. Bureaus


5 posted on 08/18/2008 11:10:19 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Massive Layoffs At Newspaper. Useless Morons Hardest Hit.


6 posted on 08/18/2008 11:11:04 AM PDT by gridlock (Barack Obama is the Sanjaya Malakar of American Politics...)
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To: abb

And just where are these folks going to find a job where they can continue to bash the republicans? Has anyone checked with NBC or MSNBC for these fired has beens? Maybe now they will learn what the “real world” has to offer someone with no talent and no idea of where their next dollar is coming from. “Just desserts” sounds good to me right now.


7 posted on 08/18/2008 11:13:31 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: abb

http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=88665
Tribune Co. Edges Closer to Default

http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=88667
Red Ink: Gannett Cuts 1,000 Staffers

http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=88664
Zucker: Reports Of Net TV’s Death Greatly Exaggerated

http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=88660
CW Owner Acme May Delist From Nasdaq


8 posted on 08/18/2008 11:16:51 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
It's sad because if you look at the list, it's heavily minority.

How can any group of people be characterized as "heavily minority"?

9 posted on 08/18/2008 11:18:18 AM PDT by agere_contra ("We are all Georgians" - John McCain)
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To: abb

Somebody should do a USATODAY-esque pie chart: “Journos Of Color Who Are Getting PWN3D”


10 posted on 08/18/2008 11:18:26 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: agere_contra

A very elite group, I’d say.


11 posted on 08/18/2008 11:20:43 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: abb
Hey Ray, you can call me Ray but youse don't have to call me Jay.

Better Call the Obama Man cause he's got all the race cards gathered up to play against John McCain.

12 posted on 08/18/2008 11:21:39 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: abb

“The Chicago Tribune laid off more than 40 newsroom employees on Friday, including a disproportionate number of journalists of color....”

...has it occurred to anyone that the reason the people “of color” got the boot is because they were the weakest performers in the dept...and maybe they were always pretty sorry anyway and were merely EEOC hires from the git go...now that times are tough, the dead wood is getting thinned out...it’s survival of the fittest...and it’s only going to get worse.


13 posted on 08/18/2008 11:23:28 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: abb

Were the Sunday comics of color affected?


14 posted on 08/18/2008 11:24:57 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: abb

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=30622
Tribune axes more newsroom jobs

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080816/ap_on_en_tv/oly_tv_nbc_s_olympics
NBC’s likely hit its peak with Phelps leaving

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121901450793948103.html
GM Won’t Buy Advertising Time For 2009 Oscars

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/16/technology/16tube.html
Some Media Companies Choose to Profit From Pirated YouTube Clips

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003839975
Idaho Falls Paper Drops AP — Blames New Rates

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003840015
Morningstar: Battered Newspaper Shares Still The ‘Market’s Most Overvalued Stocks’

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/sports/olympics/18nbc.html?_r=1&ref=media&oref=slogin
A Surprise Winner at the Olympic Games in Beijing: NBC


15 posted on 08/18/2008 11:25:57 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=130363
Uh-oh, Where Did Those Newspaper Web Ads Go?
Tribune, Scripps and Lee Report Declining Online Revenue


16 posted on 08/18/2008 11:33:34 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
"...Quintanilla...said his marching orders came a day after he challenged a powerful white Tribune columnist who for the fifth time had hired a white assistant, asking the columnist if he had considered any people of color....the columnist publicly challenged him to a fight, and said he has filed a complaint with the Tribune's human relations department.

Where does this guy get off trying to tell another columnist who to hire for an assistant, for pete's sake, and then accuse him of racism when he doesn't follow this asshat's diversity demand?

The reporter (Quintanilla) said he could not prove his layoff was related to the Thursday incident, but said, "It just smells bad to me."

What smells bad is Quintanilla's entitlement attitude. People who insert their noses into matters that don't concern them SHOULD be fired.

17 posted on 08/18/2008 11:34:23 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: abb
...including a disproportionate number of journalists of color...

In whose opinion and what color? Beige? Tan? Flamingo pink?.................

18 posted on 08/18/2008 11:37:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Red Badger

19 posted on 08/18/2008 11:42:35 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Red Badger
This one's more better.


20 posted on 08/18/2008 11:44:04 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Anyone who uses the pretentious term “of color” to describe himself or herself should be fired forthwith, anyway. ;)


21 posted on 08/18/2008 11:46:43 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: abb

Has anyone else noticed that most of the pixels on a typical Free Republic web page are WHITE?! Coincidence?!?!


22 posted on 08/18/2008 11:48:54 AM PDT by Uncledave (Zombie Reagan '08)
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To: abb

So, were these “journalists of color” purple or green?


23 posted on 08/18/2008 11:52:22 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: abb

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/15/AR2008081503100.html
Obama’s Edge in the Coverage Race

http://www.northjersey.com/opinion/moreviews/26494274.html?page=all
Scandale: Assessing readers’ comments about bias

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_10222572?source=rss
Reader Advocate: We’re not in the business of printing rumors

http://gannettblog.blogspot.com/
Gannett starts issuing pink slips: 600 jobs at stake; employees tally historic losses; blog updates all day


24 posted on 08/18/2008 11:54:45 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Get with the program.

“Colored man,” which, as I recall, was the polite term for blacks back in the 40s and 50s, is now condemned as the worst sort of sexist and racist hate speech.

“Person of color,” however, is politically correct. At least it is until the Language Police decide, at some time in the future, to condemn it and come up with still newer terminology. That will happen, predictably, as soon as enough Republicans start using it.


25 posted on 08/18/2008 11:57:29 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Uncledave

For searches of color: http://www.blackle.com/


26 posted on 08/18/2008 12:17:49 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: abb; Milhous; bert; BOBTHENAILER; tubebender

Incredible. The liberal managed mutual funds must be keeping the fishwraps afloat.

Morningstar: Battered Newspaper Shares Still The ‘Market’s Most Overvalued Stocks’

By Mark Fitzgerald

Published: August 18, 2008 11:28 AM ET

CHICAGO Shares of nearly all publicly traded newspaper companies have lost as much as 80% of their value in the last year — but they haven’t hit bottom yet, says a blistering report on the sector released Monday by Morningstar.

The Chicago-based independent research firm calls newspapers “the market’s most overvalued stocks.”

“Such sharp price declines (including a 52% drop for Gannett, an 82% dive for McClatchy, and a 94% loss for rural/suburban publisher GateHouse), coupled with what may be perceived as currently cheap valuation ratios, could be tempting to value-minded investors, but we say, ‘Look out below!,’” says the report by Matthew Coffina, with contributions from analyst Tom Corbett.

“We think the stocks have further room to fall, as declining revenues and negative operating leverage combine to create a downward spiral for this moribund industry,” Morningstar added.

Morningstar offers the usual reason for its pessimism about newspapers: high fixed costs with “steadily” shrinking revenues are squeezing profits as the Internet steals readership and ad share “at an accelerating pace.”

“We don’t anticipate these trends to reverse and consider the newspaper industry unattractive as a whole,” the report concludes.

Morningstar singles out five newspaper stocks that it says are trading at “significant premiums” to its estimates of their fair value.

Morningstar assigned Gannett a fair value of $1.61 a share. Monday morning, Gannett (NYSE: GCI) was trading at $19.99, off 66 cents, or 3.2% from the opening. Morningstar said it expects the nation’s largest newspaper company’s revenues to fall at 5% annually over the next five years, with operating income declines averaging 14% annually.

The New York Times Company was given a fair value estimate of $1.27 a share. Monday morning its stock (NYSE:NYT) was trading at $13.94, up 2 cents, or 0.14% from the open.

Lee Enterprises (NYSE: LEE) was trading early Monday at $3.56, down 11 cents, or 3.26%. Morningstar’s fair value estimate: $1.63 a share.

Morningstar said The McClatchy Co. stock has a fair value of just $1.95, but Monday its shares (NYSE: MNI) were trading at $4.26, up 7 cents, or 1.67%, from the opening.

“McClatchy doubled down its bet on the future of newspapers with the $4.6 billion acquisition of Knight Ridder in 2006,” Morningstar wrote. “The $2.5 billion in extra debt assumed in the deal only exacerbated McClatchy’s shaky financial footing. Barely a year passed before McClatchy had to write down $3 billion of the acquisition’s purchase price. Another problem in the current environment is McClatchy’s outsize exposure to California and Florida, with their floundering housing markets. We expect McClatchy to see 4.7% annual revenue declines over the next five years and only irregular profitability.”

Morningstar repeated its judgment that the GateHouse Media Inc. (NYSE: GHS) is essentially worthless, assigning it a fair value of zero. Monday morning it was trading at 69 cents, down 2 cents, or 2.82%.


Mark Fitzgerald (mfitzgerald@editorandpublisher.com) is E&P’s editor-at-large.


27 posted on 08/18/2008 12:24:34 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Obama, the Oreo Bozo, who wants special-ed treatment as an untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: Grampa Dave

Real estate (Office buildings, printing press buildings, etc) is in a downswing and the printing presses themselves are worth only scrap prices (about $0.10/lb.)

That’s all the money there really is any more.


28 posted on 08/18/2008 12:33:07 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
Now these Obama -DNC operatives can go back to being on OBama payroll rather than the current subcontractor status at the Trib.
29 posted on 08/18/2008 12:41:24 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: abb

Ray Quintanilla, left

30 posted on 08/18/2008 12:43:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Cicero
how about "colored persons"? is that offensive?

if so, please alert the NAACP.

31 posted on 08/18/2008 12:48:39 PM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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To: Uncledave

While correct it must be said that over 99% of the letters are pixels of color and hold more important positions than the white pixels. Some have even become numbers.


32 posted on 08/18/2008 12:55:46 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Grampa Dave

http://news.morningstar.com/articlenet/article.aspx?id=249734
The Market’s Most Overvalued Stocks
The newspaper business is in terminal decline.


33 posted on 08/18/2008 1:45:44 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2008/08/new_lat_publisher_speaks.php
New LAT publisher speaks

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/content/opinion/epaper/2008/08/17/a10a_schultzcol_0817.html
Cranky, wonderful readers


34 posted on 08/18/2008 1:49:55 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Milhous; Grampa Dave

Milhous, do you remember when you and I had those conversations about ‘book value’ and ‘goodwill’ and how the newspapers were but a hollow gourd of value and that they would have to have huge writedowns on their balance sheets? That was almost two years ago.

Tell me why we didn’t take Grampa Dave’s advice and short those stocks back then.

Sigh...


35 posted on 08/18/2008 2:37:00 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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“Of color.” What a bizarre formulation. Everyone has a color. Or isn’t white a color now?


36 posted on 08/18/2008 3:10:16 PM PDT by Godwin1 (Godwin)
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To: gridlock
Massive Layoffs At Newspaper. Useless Morons Hardest Hit.

Now that's the way it oughta be!   Or perhaps "morons, those who slacked off the most, and those previously, artificially advantaged beyond anything resembling their actual usefulness, hardest hit."

We dare not leave it to corporations in any laissez-faire way to even begin to threaten Ms. heads of household, paycheck-to-paycheck ticket puncher and her hardscrabble family of four so, do we? No, mean, nasty corporations' "feet must be held to the fire" anytime their actions could possibly be characterized as racist, bigotted, discriminatory, or homophobic. That's why we want the Leftist press to hound them unmercilessly, right?

On that basis, Clinton's minions had our heart-strings twanging in 1995 via the on-camera government workers gushing about their tough situations during the "Republican Government Shutdown," until it was pointed out to a few that those workers had yet to miss single paycheck, such that there could not possibly have been any real hardship due to being out of work. Ultimately, they all got paid every cent, as if they'd simply been given extra vacation time. The government prints the money, after all.

HF

37 posted on 08/18/2008 3:14:19 PM PDT by holden
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To: abb

What about the colorless ones?


38 posted on 08/18/2008 3:16:35 PM PDT by airborne (American by birth! Christian by choice!)
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To: abb


39 posted on 08/18/2008 3:17:16 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: holden

The workers who got sent home got paid on time, every two weeks. The only hardship was the expense of renting movies at Blockbuster Videos (hey, it was the mid-90s!).

The “essential” workers, who had to work through the furlough, did not get paid until about six weeks after the furlough ended. This was a cause of considerable resentment.


40 posted on 08/18/2008 3:22:33 PM PDT by gridlock (Barack Obama is the Sanjaya Malakar of American Politics...)
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To: abb
An arbitrary expiration date keeps me from writing short contracts. Knowing a trend is one thing. Predicting its precise timing is quite another. Especially when irrational elephants with more money than sense (Falcone) briefly push up the stock price. Investors end up paying when a short contract arbitrarily expires during such nonsense.
41 posted on 08/18/2008 3:56:27 PM PDT by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: abb; Grampa Dave

New LAT publisher speaks

... I took this job because I firmly believe that we, the women and men of the Los Angeles Times, can show the rest of the world how the Fourth Estate can not only survive, but thrive in the 21st century. ...
All your base are belong to us of the Fifth Estate.
... But I firmly believe people still want the moral compass that journalists at their best provide. In other words, truth, justice and the exclusive quote. ...
Fifth Estaters demand truth, justice and the American way.
42 posted on 08/18/2008 4:08:52 PM PDT by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: abb; Milhous; BOBTHENAILER; SierraWasp; tubebender; martin_fierro; Liz; bert

abb to Milhous; Grampa Dave
Milhous, do you remember when you and I had those conversations about ‘book value’ and ‘goodwill’ and how the newspapers were but a hollow gourd of value and that they would have to have huge writedowns on their balance sheets? That was almost two years ago.

Tell me why we didn’t take Grampa Dave’s advice and short those stocks back then.”

Shortly after the 2004 elections, I started shedding mutual funds which had raves from the liberals posing as investment gurus. It was amazing how many of the loser funds held large amounts of the dinosaur fishwraps and other parts of the MSM.

I think that I started using the term Enronning their share holders and advertisers, to describe these losers about 2 years ago.

Besides the mutual funds, how much of these worthless stocks have been gobbled up by state retirement funds, crappy IRA/401 K’s and other retirement funds?


43 posted on 08/18/2008 4:12:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Obama, the Oreo Bozo, who wants special-ed treatment as an untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: Milhous

“I firmly believe people still want the moral compass that journalists at their best provide. In other words, truth, justice and the exclusive quote. ...”

What an oxymoron, moral compass, re journalists.


44 posted on 08/18/2008 4:16:51 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Obama, the Oreo Bozo, who wants special-ed treatment as an untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: abb

“Real estate (Office buildings, printing press buildings, etc) is in a downswing and the printing presses themselves are worth only scrap prices (about $0.10/lb.)”

Oil prices, the cost of driving to and from work, and the screams of the green whackos will probably drive down the value of most downtown office buildings.

With powerful home and portable computers and the internet, there is no real need for the daily drive from the suburbs to the downtown offices to sit at a dumb computer connected to a server for 8 hours. The job can be done at home or in a park or a McD with a portable and the WiFi connections.

I have many younger and well paid relatives, who could do their jobs at home most of the time. A large part of their days are computer driven and phone driven.

Meetings are becoming astronomically expensive if one has to fly, get cabs, stay at a hotel and eat out and repeat the process to get back home.


45 posted on 08/18/2008 4:31:49 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Obama, the Oreo Bozo, who wants special-ed treatment as an untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: Grampa Dave
What an oxymoron, moral compass, re journalists.

That's it. Journalists provide an immoral compass. Moral people ought to go in the opposite direction.
46 posted on 08/18/2008 4:40:27 PM PDT by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: Grampa Dave

.....and phone driven.....

I communicate with a number of young women. They just don’t use the phone. It’s e mail or forget it. They won’t answer voice mail.


47 posted on 08/18/2008 4:44:54 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: Milhous

Amen Brother: “
That’s it. Journalists provide an immoral compass. Moral people ought to go in the opposite direction.”

Whenever, we have any doubt about any critical issue, wait until the mediots start their lies and spins and believe in the opposite of what they are telling us.


48 posted on 08/18/2008 5:51:40 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Obama, the Oreo Bozo, who wants special-ed treatment as an untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: bert

“I communicate with a number of young women. They just don’t use the phone. It’s e mail or forget it. They won’t answer voice mail.”

Another good reason to keep my trophy wife. She refuses to use her email account at work and doesn’t have one on our home computer. She doesn’t have an answer machine for her unlisted land line phone.

When I finally retired. I destroyed my old cell phone. No one but my family has my current cell number, and I refuse to answer messages on it. If they can’t catch me live, I will see, who called me. If the caller is a relative, I will call them when I see who is listed on the missed call list.


49 posted on 08/18/2008 6:01:12 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Obama, the Oreo Bozo, who wants special-ed treatment as an untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: Grampa Dave; sionnsar

http://www.buffalonews.com/258/story/417514.html
The News offering buyouts to 107 employees

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/375441_newspaperprice19.html
Seattle Times, P-I will raise price to 75 cents


50 posted on 08/18/2008 6:23:48 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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