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Life Lies: Barack Obama and Born-Alive
NRO ^ | 8/17/2008 | David Freddoso

Posted on 08/18/2008 12:39:46 PM PDT by mojito

In 2001, Senator Barack Obama was the only member of the Illinois senate to speak against a bill that would have recognized premature abortion survivors as “persons.” The bill was in response to a Chicago-area hospital that was leaving such babies to die. Obama voted “present” on the bill after denouncing it. It passed the state Senate but died in a state house committee.

In 2003, a similar bill came before Obama’s health committee. He voted against it. But this time, the legislation was slightly different. This latter version was identical to the federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which by then had already passed the U.S. Senate unanimously (with a hearty endorsement even from abortion advocate Sen. Barbara Boxer) and had been signed into law by President Bush.

Sen. Obama is currently misleading people about what he voted against, specifically claiming that the bill he voted against in his committee lacked “neutrality” language on Roe v. Wade. The bill did contain this language. He even participated in the unanimous vote to put it in.

Obama’s work against the bill to protect premature babies represents one of two times in his political career, along with his speech against the Iraq war, that he really stuck out his neck for something that might hurt him politically. Unlike his Iraq speech, Obama is deeply embarrassed about this one — so embarrassed that he is offering a demonstrable falsehood in explanation for his actions. Fortunately, the documents showing the truth are now available.

At the end of last week, Obama gave an interview to CBN’s David Brody in which he repeated the false claim that the born-alive bills he worked, spoke, and voted against on this topic between 2001 and 2003 would have negatively affected Roe v. Wade. This has always been untrue, but, until last week, it appeared to be a debatable point that depended on one’s interpretation of the bill language. Every single version of the bill was neutral on Roe. Each one affected only babies already born, not ones in the womb.

But in 2003, in the health committee which he chaired, Obama voted against a version of the bill that contained the specific “neutrality” language — redundant language affirming that the bill only applied to infants already born and granted no rights to the unborn. You can visit the Illinois legislature’s website here to see the language of the “Senate Amendment 1,” which was added in a unanimous 10-0 vote in the committee before Obama helped kill it. This is the so-called “neutrality clause” on Roe that everyone is talking about:

1 AMENDMENT TO SENATE BILL 1082

2 AMENDMENT NO. . Amend Senate Bill 1082 on page 1, by

3 replacing lines 24 through 26 with the following:

4 “(c) Nothing in this Section shall be construed to

5 affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal

6 right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at

7 any point prior to being born alive as defined in this

8 Section.”.

The addition of this amendment made the bill identical to the federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act. This Committee Action Report, dug up in Springfield by the National Right to Life Committee and revealed last week, shows two different votes. In the left column, under the heading “DP#1”(or “Do Pass” Amendment 1), we see that Obama’s committee voted 10-0 to add this neutrality language to the bill. In the right column, we see that the committee then voted 6-4 to kill the bill. Obama was among the six “No” votes.

A write-up from the time by a Republican staffer on the committee further explains:

CA #1 was adopted on a “Be Adopted” motion (Righter/Syverson) by an attendance roll call (10-0-0).

CA #1 (Winkel) to SB 1082 (Winkel) adds to the underlying bill.

Deletes language, which states that a live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law.

Inserts language, which states that nothing in the bill shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or right applicable to any member of the homo sapien species at any point prior to being born alive as defined under this legislation.

So again: after the above amendment was added to change the original bill, making it identical to the federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, Obama and five other Democrats voted to kill it. They killed the same bill that the U.S. Senate had passed unanimously. Here is the interview in which Sen. Obama offers his false explanation once again, which is contradicted not only by eyewitnesses but also by the records of his own committee:

...I hate to say that people are lying, but here’s a situation where folks are lying. I have said repeatedly that I would have been completely in, fully in support of the federal bill that everybody supported — which was to say — that you should provide assistance to any infant that was born - even if it was as a consequence of an induced abortion. That was not the bill that was presented at the state level. What that bill also was doing was trying to undermine Roe vs. Wade.

The senator is right. Someone is lying.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykiller; bornalive; cbn; davidfreddoso; demlies; freddoso; infanticide; nobama08; obama; obamasux; obamatruthfile; stopobama; thecaseagainstobama
I'm not sure which is more disgraceful: Obama's opposition to these measures, or his current attempts to deny it.
1 posted on 08/18/2008 12:39:47 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Baraq Hussein is one sick mutha.


2 posted on 08/18/2008 12:46:33 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: mojito

Family Research Council announced in a PR today that:

Senator Obama Owes Voters an Apology for Misleading Statements on Life, Says FRC Action

WASHINGTON, Aug. 18—Family Research Council Action President Tony Perkins reacts to comments Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill.) made during the recent forum at Saddleback Church in Orange County, Calif. and an interview he gave afterwards. Obama accused the National Right to Life Committee and others of “lying” about his record on born alive infant protection legislation while he was in the Illinois State Senate.

“It was only after the forum, when Senator Obama got caught in his twisting of the truth that his campaign put out a clarifying statement that it was the Senator himself who was actually wrong on the facts. He did indeed vote against a bill in the Illinois State Senate that was identical to a federal piece of legislation that sought to protect babies who survive abortions.

“The act of killing a just-born child was considered so heinous that the federal bill, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, was supported by pro-abortion Senator Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and unopposed by NARAL, the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League. Senator Obama’s position in the Illinois senate was to oppose any legislation that would protect such innocent life. Everyone else was clear that the bill addressed infanticide not abortion.

“Senator Obama also stated that abortions have not declined in the last eight years. In fact Planned Parenthood’s Guttmacher Institute has shown that abortions have, in fact, declined over the last eight years. Knowing these facts should not be above the Senator’s pay grade, present or future.”


3 posted on 08/18/2008 12:51:23 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Comparative Advantage
...shut yo' mouth.

Actually I agree with you, but I had to say it.

4 posted on 08/18/2008 12:52:46 PM PDT by Gritty-Kitty
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To: mojito

A package of Born Alive bills was introduced three times during Obama’s tenure.

The cornerstone bill was the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which defined legal personhood. This definition was identical to the federal BAIPA (1) which was drafted from the definition of “live birth” created by the World Health Organization in 1950 (2) and adopted by the United Nations in 1955 (3)....

Here I will only post links to Obama’s actions and votes on the cornerstone bill, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. The bill number changed every year it was reintroduced.

2001

Senate Bill 1095 (4), Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Go here to view Obama’s “no” vote (5) in the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 28, 2001.

Transcript of Obama’s verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor (6), March 30, 2001, pages 84-90

Obama’s verbal oppostion to Born alive, (7) “And if we’re placing a burden on the doctor that says you have to keep alive even a previable child as long as possible and give them as much medical attention as — as is necessary to keep that child alive, then we’re probably crossing the lines in terms of unconstitutionality.” March 30, 2001

Obama’s “present” vote on the IL Senate floor ( 8 ), March 30, 2001

2002

Senate Bill 1662 ( 9 ), Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Go here to view Obama’s “no” vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee (10) on March 6, 2002. (ABC inadvertently coped bill #1663, a companion bill. The vote for the Born Alive bill, #1662, was identical.)

Transcript of Obama’s verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor (11), April 4, 2002, pages 28-35

Obama’s “no” vote on the IL Senate floor (12), April 4, 2002

2003

Senate Bill 1082 (13), Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Democrats took control of the IL Senate with the 2002 elections. They sent Born Alive to the infamously liberal Health & Human Services Committee, chaired by Barack Obama (14).

As can be seen on the Actions docket (15), Obama held Born Alive on March 6, 2003, from even being voted on in committee. It is also important to note from the docket that on March 13, 2003, Obama stopped the senate sponsor from adding the lately discussed clarification paragraph (16) from the federal BAIPA, to make the bills absolutely identical.

1. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h107-2175

2. http://www.who.int/healthinfo/statistics/indunder5mortality/en/

3. http://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/sconcerns/natality/natmethods.htm

4. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB1095.html

5. http://www.jillstanek.com/Senate_Committee_Vote_32701.pdf

6. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf

7. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf

8. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB1095_03302001_030000T.PDF

9. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB1662.html

10. http://www.jillstanek.com/Senate_Committee_Vote_3502.pdf

11. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST040402.pdf

12. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB1662_04042002_014000T.pdf

13. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1082&GAID=3&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=3910&SessionID=3&GA=93

14. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/committees/members.asp?GA=93&committeeID=85

15. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1082&GAID=3&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=3910&SessionID=3&GA=93

16. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=09300SB1082sam001&GA=93&SessionId=3&DocTypeId=SB&LegID=3910&DocNum=1082&GAID=3&Session=


5 posted on 08/18/2008 1:00:10 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude

That’s very impressive documentation.

Thanks for posting it.


6 posted on 08/18/2008 1:04:29 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Obama Doesn’t Want His Daughters Punished with a Baby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNzmly28Bmg

CNN on Obama’s Infant Born Alive Act Rejection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY

Jill Stanek on Obama and Infant Born Alive Protection Act

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

Obama Cover-up Revealed On Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Bill

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ObamaCoverup.html


7 posted on 08/18/2008 1:11:17 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: mojito

I noticed at Saddleback that his nose was shining along with the silver highlights in his hair.


8 posted on 08/18/2008 1:13:16 PM PDT by safetysign
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To: safetysign

The late term abortion service could be termed, “You grab’em we stab’em!”


9 posted on 08/18/2008 1:17:39 PM PDT by safetysign
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To: safetysign

It’s the only original initiative that Barry Obama can lay claim to.....”No Child Left Alive”!

Militant


10 posted on 08/18/2008 1:20:39 PM PDT by militant2 (Doomed is the society that forces us to tolerate the intolerable)
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To: mojito
Everyone relax now. Blitzer with CNN is about to clear up the whole matter and tell us what Obama really thought he was voting on. /sarc
11 posted on 08/18/2008 2:26:56 PM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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To: mojito

Knowing exactly what he voted for or against must be “...above his pay grade”


12 posted on 08/18/2008 2:29:44 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: safetysign

The hair thing was really distracting and made me think of when Clinton used to dye his hair according to the audience-a bunch of theatrics because they have no substance-since when does O have grey hair - oh since Saturday night!What a poseur!


13 posted on 08/18/2008 2:30:07 PM PDT by LYSandra
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To: cpforlife.org; MHGinTN; wagglebee; Caleb1411

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14 posted on 08/18/2008 3:55:17 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
What Barack Obama defended three times: Live Birth Abortion
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15 posted on 08/18/2008 4:29:12 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at CpForLife.org)
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16 posted on 08/18/2008 4:30:07 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: mojito
There's a story here, folks! These are just FR threads!

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17 posted on 08/18/2008 5:48:24 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Comparative Advantage
February 19, 2008

Links to Barack Obama's votes on IL's Born Alive Infant Protection Act

obama.jpgBelow is a listing of then-state Senator Barack Obama's votes and state senate floor speeches on IL's Born Alive Infant Protection Act.

(At right is a political cartoon by Jack Higgins, printed in the Chicago Sun-Times on August 25, 2004, during his U.S. Senate campaign.)

A package of Born Alive bills was introduced three times during Obama's tenure.

The cornerstone bill was the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, aka "Born Alive Infant Defined," which defined legal personhood to include born alive infants any time the words "person," "human being," "child," or "individual" was stated in IL law.

This definition was identical to the federal BAIPA which was drafted from the definition of "live birth" created by the World Health Organization in 1950 and adopted by the United Nations in 1955.

Following are Obama's actions and votes on Born Alive. The bill number changed every year it was reintroduced.

2001

Senate Bill 1095, Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Obama's "no" vote in the IL Senate Judiciary Committeehere, March 28, 2001

Transcript of Obama's verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor, March 30, 2001, pages 84-90

Obama's "present" vote on the IL Senate floor, March 30, 2001


2002

Senate Bill 1662, Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Obama's "no" vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee, March 6, 2002

Transcript of Obama's verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor, April 4, 2002, pages 28-35

Obama's "no" vote on the IL Senate floor, April 4, 2002

Listen to audio from Obama's 2002 IL Senate floor debate wherein he argued that while babies might be aborted alive, it would be a "burden" to a mother's "original decision" to assess and treat them.

Meanwhile, the federal Born Alive Infants Protection Act with a "neutrality clause" added passed the U.S. Senate 98-0, the U.S. House overwhelmingly, and was signed into law August 5, 2002. The pro-abortion group NARAL expressed neutrality on the bill.


2003

Senate Bill 1082, Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Democrats took control of the IL Senate with the 2002 elections. This year Born Alive was sent to the Health & Human Services Committee, chaired by Barack Obama.

As can be seen on the vote docket, Obama first voted to amend SB1082 to add the "neutrality clause" from the federal version of Born Alive to the IL version to make them absolutely identical. (DP#1 means "Do Pass Amendment #1.)

Then Obama voted against the identical version. (DPA means, "Do Pass as Amended.)

Additional corroboration of Obama's vote: IL State Senate Republican Staff Analysis of SB 1082, March 12-13, 2003, bottom of page 2

For 4 years following his 2003 vote Obama misrepresented it, stating the wording of the IL version of Born Alive was not the same as the federal version, and he would have voted for it if so. As recently as August 16, 2008 Obama made this false assertion.

But when evidence presented was irrefutable, Obama's campaign on August 18, 2008, admitted the truth to the New York Sun.

The nonpartison group FactCheck.org has since corroborated Obama voted against identical legislation as passed overwhelmingly on the federal level and then misrepresented his vote.


18 posted on 08/12/2009 4:12:56 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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