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Russia Never Wanted a War (sez Mikhail Gorbachev)
NY Times ^ | August 19, 2008 | MIKHAIL GORBACHEV

Posted on 08/19/2008 11:51:36 PM PDT by james500

THE acute phase of the crisis provoked by the Georgian forces’ assault on Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia, is now behind us. But how can one erase from memory the horrifying scenes of the nighttime rocket attack on a peaceful town, the razing of entire city blocks, the deaths of people taking cover in basements, the destruction of ancient monuments and ancestral graves?

Russia did not want this crisis. The Russian leadership is in a strong enough position domestically; it did not need a little victorious war. Russia was dragged into the fray by the recklessness of the Georgian president, Mikheil Saakashvili. He would not have dared to attack without outside support. Once he did, Russia could not afford inaction.

The decision by the Russian president, Dmitri Medvedev, to now cease hostilities was the right move by a responsible leader. The Russian president acted calmly, confidently and firmly. Anyone who expected confusion in Moscow was disappointed.

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A bipartisan commission led by Senator Chuck Hagel and former Senator Gary Hart has recently been established at Harvard to report on American-Russian relations to Congress and the next president. It includes serious people, and, judging by the commission’s early statements, its members understand the importance of Russia and the importance of constructive bilateral relations.

But the members of this commission should be careful. Their mandate is to present “policy recommendations for a new administration to advance America’s national interests in relations with Russia.” If that alone is the goal, then I doubt that much good will come out of it. If, however, the commission is ready to also consider the interests of the other side and of common security, it may actually help rebuild trust between Russia and the United States and allow them to start doing useful work together.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: chuckhagel; garyhart; geopolitics; georgia; gorbachev; gorbo; gorby; hagel; hart; southossetia
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1 posted on 08/19/2008 11:51:36 PM PDT by james500
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To: F15Eagle

I’m thinking the red blotch on his head has finally eaten into his brain. Either that or it means “Ding! coffee’s ready!”


4 posted on 08/19/2008 11:58:39 PM PDT by Shaun_MD
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To: james500

Cue glorious Gorbasm theme for Mikhail Sergeyevich!


6 posted on 08/20/2008 12:01:07 AM PDT by dighton
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To: F15Eagle

God we need Reagan. Times like this I miss that man. He knew how to deal with Russia.


7 posted on 08/20/2008 12:04:06 AM PDT by Shaun_MD
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To: james500
Of course, they would have preferred Georgia just lie down and be annexed...
8 posted on 08/20/2008 12:05:21 AM PDT by DB
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To: Shaun_MD
I’m thinking the red blotch on his head has finally eaten into his brain.

I always thought it was his brains leaching out. ;-)

9 posted on 08/20/2008 12:08:54 AM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: F15Eagle

why did Georgia attack Ossetia? Was it not because Russia was launching attacks and moving alot of troops in there, a country that is not theirs to occupy.


10 posted on 08/20/2008 12:10:20 AM PDT by fabian
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To: Shaun_MD

Gorbachev apparently has been bought by Putin. And of course the NY Times is more than happy to give him a forum.


11 posted on 08/20/2008 12:14:08 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: uglybiker

Something weird. Years ago I was watching the news and they cut to a meeting with Ronald and Gorby. When they first went to the meeting the blotch was on one side of his head and the news suddenly dropped the live feed. When they came back I swear the damn blotch was on the other side of Gorbachev’s head. I kid you not. I always wondered if anyone else caught that.


12 posted on 08/20/2008 12:17:49 AM PDT by Shaun_MD
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To: james500

Nice. The NYTimes gives Gorbachev the opportunity to shill for Russian expansionism, but won’t publish a McCain opinion piece regarding his candidacy to become POTUS (after they’d already published Obama’s opinion). Big surprise.


14 posted on 08/20/2008 12:24:57 AM PDT by smedley64 (UHbUHmUH- The incoherent candidate.)
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To: F15Eagle

“Gorbachev lies.”

Perestroika was a ruse.


15 posted on 08/20/2008 12:31:06 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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Rush was always on the money with Gorby.

He was, is and will always be redder than my Brandy Boy tomatoes.


17 posted on 08/20/2008 12:47:55 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: james500

“A bipartisan commission led by Senator Chuck Hagel and former Senator Gary Hart has recently been established at Harvard to report on American-Russian relations to Congress and the next president.”

LOL! Having Chuck RINOHAGEL makes it bipartisan. Hah!

“If, however, the commission is ready to also consider the interests of the other side and of common security, it may actually help rebuild trust between Russia and the United States and allow them to start doing useful work together.”

How is that “consider the interests of the other side” working in Moscow these days, Gorby?


18 posted on 08/20/2008 2:02:30 AM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: fabian

This area has seen conflict for many years and in the early 90’s Russia and Georgia agreed to a ceasefire allowing Russian units to keep the peace. Now Georgia always wanted to retake or re-establish control over South Ossetia and there were numerous negotiations. However, in the weeks leading to military action there were a number of skirmishes and the Russians had warned Georgia over any military action outside the ceasefire agreement.

What surprised the Russians was the intensity of the Georgian military action against their peacekeeping units in the civilian populated areas. A number of Russian peacekeeping sites were wiped out by artillery barrage and the peacekeepers were certainly no match against Georgian tanks and artillery.

This only infuriated the Russians and they responded with their own intense military action.


19 posted on 08/20/2008 3:27:49 AM PDT by baltoga
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"One thing that should definitely be rethought: the habit of talking to Russia in a condescending way, without regard for its positions and interests." Well, Gorby ol' son, us cowboys here in the unsophisticated US of A have a bit of a problem with Russia's interests. Turns out that Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, oh yeah, and the Republic Georgia, all have positions and interests too. And their interests run directly opposite of those of Russia. So Gorby, let me see if this communicates the United States position with regard to Russia's invasion of her neighbor, Georgia - "твою мать!"
20 posted on 08/20/2008 6:57:51 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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