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Science Now Explains The Uniqueness of Every Human Being From Conception
Dakota Voice ^ | 8/17/2008 | SD Legislature

Posted on 08/20/2008 8:39:33 AM PDT by Apollos21K

...The invention of the PCR techniques has led to further refinements of the DNA fingerprinting techniques, which has given science the ability to obtain a human being's DNA fingerprinting – and therefore his or her identity – from a single cell.

There can no longer be any doubt that each human being is totally unique from the very beginning of his or her life at fertilization. (Mark, P. 19-21.)

The significance of methylation of cytosine was unknown until 1985. It has a profound significance in understanding...that the human being is whole and complete at fertilization.

A human being at an embryonic age and that human being at an adult age are naturally the same, the biological differences are due only to the differences in maturity...

(Excerpt) Read more at dakotavoice.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; conception; dna; fetus; genetics; methylation; science
Incredible scientific evidence from the South Dakota Task Force to Study Abortion which shows that the unborn are distinctly human from the moment of conception.

This critically undermines the whole pro-abortion contention that the preborn aren't "human enough" to be recognized as "persons," or that the fetus is just a piece of tissue from the mother's body she can do with as she pleases.

1 posted on 08/20/2008 8:39:33 AM PDT by Apollos21K
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To: Apollos21K

And yet, amazingly, there are some who still claim that their is no divine creation.


2 posted on 08/20/2008 8:41:25 AM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: Apollos21K

a baby is a new being, a soul, the moment those 2 cells combine and the DNA blueprint start building a new life. not when it’s out of the womb.


3 posted on 08/20/2008 8:42:50 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: Apollos21K
by the third cell division (long before implantation) all control of growth and development are established by the child's DNA. This means that immediately after conception, all programming for growth of the human being is self-contained. (Mark, P. 26.)

Very interesting article. Thanks for posting it.

4 posted on 08/20/2008 8:45:19 AM PDT by syriacus (They often call me BARRY, but my real name is MISTER SCHMOOZE. [by B.O. + the Faddish Hacks])
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To: Apollos21K
Jeremiah 1:5"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."
5 posted on 08/20/2008 8:45:30 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: Apollos21K

Somebody check the pay grade of these scientists to make sure they are qualified to give this opinion.


6 posted on 08/20/2008 8:45:46 AM PDT by nhoward14
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To: Apollos21K

Don’t tell the feminists... you might burst their bubble (heads).


7 posted on 08/20/2008 8:46:34 AM PDT by Righter-than-Rush
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To: Righter-than-Rush

I’m sure they know this; after all their born knowing everything!


8 posted on 08/20/2008 8:50:53 AM PDT by jrd
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To: Apollos21K

Thank you for posting this article.


9 posted on 08/20/2008 8:51:31 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Apollos21K

At some point in time, scientists will be able to plug in the DNA profile of a sample and get a computer generated picture of exactly whose DNA it is..................


10 posted on 08/20/2008 8:54:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Apollos21K

I would LOVE to see this article posted on Drudge !!!


11 posted on 08/20/2008 9:02:23 AM PDT by Thinkin
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To: Ancient Drive

Someone (Anthony Flew?) said that true religion and true science should agree.


12 posted on 08/20/2008 9:04:36 AM PDT by Apollos21K
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To: Ancient Drive

Someone (Anthony Flew?) said that true religion and true science should agree.


13 posted on 08/20/2008 9:04:47 AM PDT by Apollos21K
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To: Apollos21K

I can see my grandmother right now, as if she was still here with us, giving this story a little shake of the head and that slightly sorrowful look, then lifting her eyes a little and saying, “What, they needed some big researcher somewhere to tell us what we already knew?”


14 posted on 08/20/2008 9:10:24 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: Apollos21K

Proof again that Obama not only is not qualified to be President, because that is far above his pay grade but more important, it’s far above his IQ grade!


15 posted on 08/20/2008 9:27:39 AM PDT by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: Apollos21K

Beep! TTT


16 posted on 08/20/2008 9:38:37 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Apollos21K
I was reading this Psalm (139) this morning and thinking about when life begins. According to the Bible, it begins before even day one of existence:

You formed my inmost being;
you knit me in my mother's womb.
I praise you, so wonderfully you made me;
wonderful are your works!
My very self you knew;
my bones were not hidden from you,
When I was being made in secret,
fashioned as in the depths of the earth.
Your eyes foresaw my actions;
in your book all are written down;
my days were shaped, before one came to be.

17 posted on 08/20/2008 9:44:52 AM PDT by bethtopaz (Obama: A rock star with a one tune hit.)
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To: bethtopaz

Abortion is MURDER, pure and simple, and regardless of ANY consequences of conception. A baby is a gift from GOD with all of the same circumstances in mind. MURDER does not excuse any womans self serving motives for “convenience”. It has nothing to do with the welfare of the mother, or her health, or anything else. Murder is murder, no matter which way you slice it.


18 posted on 08/20/2008 10:09:12 AM PDT by Invictus
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To: Apollos21K
I am a trained biologist. And I find this 'news' quite amazing. Because as far as I know, biochemists always were convinced that when measured by the DNA (the genome), humans were unique. So to me not this news is new, but the fact that seemingly in the U.S.A. some people over the past decades could claim otherwise and got away with it... Anyone's invited to send me some background info (preferably out in the open) about this.
19 posted on 08/20/2008 10:15:33 AM PDT by Apollo 13
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To: Obadiah

We must keep religion out of our arguments if we expect to win in the political arena. Keep your faith, fine, but trying to convince people to change the law because in The Bible is says such and such is not going to work.


20 posted on 08/20/2008 10:15:45 AM PDT by libertylover (You can't "Tylenol" your way out of arthritis either but it sure as hell helps to relieve the pain.)
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To: Apollos21K

We're all special, (but sure as heck could use some improvement)

21 posted on 08/20/2008 10:21:02 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Thank God for every morning.)
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To: Apollos21K
The "party" is just beginning when the initial cells fuse. In addition to the genetic endowment, there is an impact by the maternal physiology on the developing fetus. Levels of hormones, nutrients and other chemical substances impact the path of the development. Fingerprints are literally a "log" of the development process. Lengths of bones are impacted (ratios of upper/lower leg length), finger lengths (ring vs index) and body symmetry are all influenced during gestation. The variations in physiology are a principle reason that "identical twins" aren't always identical in appearance. There's more than just DNA involved in the process.
22 posted on 08/20/2008 10:21:20 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: libertylover

“We must keep religion out of our arguments if we expect to win in the political arena. Keep your faith, fine, but trying to convince people to change the law because in The Bible is says such and such is not going to work.”

I agree. My faith affirms what anyone with even half a brain,(religious beliefs aside), should be able to see...that there has to be a starting point for life and that is obviously at conception. I honestly don’t see how anyone can’t see that. It just goes to show you that people will go to great extremes to justify doing things they want to do, even to the point of convincing themselves they are right.


23 posted on 08/20/2008 10:36:42 AM PDT by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr. The man on my POW bracelet.)
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To: Apollos21K

Just remember kids: you’re unique and special, just like everyone else.


24 posted on 08/20/2008 10:41:45 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: libertylover

I completely agree with you and do not advocate law changes based upon religion. On the other hand, I merely attempt to sharpen the point of the obvious, that there is a Creator.


25 posted on 08/20/2008 10:48:34 AM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: libertylover
"Keep your faith, fine, but trying to convince people to change the law because in The Bible is says such and such is not going to work."

So, something I read in a book that is later proved to be true .. and that book also teaches a faith, a religion .. that empirically teaches to the believer truth, must be discounted as part of a thought process?

26 posted on 08/20/2008 11:12:29 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: nhoward14

that was funny....


27 posted on 08/20/2008 11:43:42 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: knarf
...truth, must be discounted as part of a thought process?

No, don't discount religion in your thought process, but don't use religion as a political argument. That's my point.

Our religion told us it was true long before the science of DNA proved it to be true. I've been trying for 10 years to get DNA into the abortion discussion and I believe we can win by using it, but we'll never make headway as long as the other side can dismiss us as religious fanatics.

28 posted on 08/20/2008 12:11:50 PM PDT by libertylover (You can't "Tylenol" your way out of arthritis either but it sure as hell helps to relieve the pain.)
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To: libertylover
"No, don't discount religion in your thought process, but don't use religion as a political argument. That's my point."

As a man thinketh, so is he.

I don't think we can compartmentalize our processes ... truth is not up for arbitration, nor is there one truth for one subject, and another for another.

I understand what you say, I just don't agree.

Judges judge, based on how they think, and the greatest and most admired are those that have a Christian mindset .. thought process.

You can't separate the two.

29 posted on 08/20/2008 1:33:07 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Righter-than-Rush

uh... they’ll go the other way.

A lecturer related that he gave the SLED argument to a group to convince them that there was no difference between a fetus and a born infant.

Two feminists approached him after and told him they’d changed their minds, they were pro-infanticide now.


30 posted on 08/20/2008 1:36:16 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Obadiah

Ah, sheesh... Denying objective truth is what got us to this point in the first place!


31 posted on 08/20/2008 1:37:51 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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