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FTC Limits Prerecorded Calls
The Wall Street Journal (excerpt) (subscription required) ^ | August 20, 2008 | Brent Kendall

Posted on 08/20/2008 5:35:53 PM PDT by HAL9000

Excerpt -

Responding to a wave of consumer complaints, the U.S. Federal Trade Commission said it will bar telemarketers from making prerecorded sales calls unless a consumer explicitly agrees to receive such calls.

The FTC also will require all recorded sales calls to provide an opt-out feature to allow consumers to place themselves on the caller's do-not-call list immediately.

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(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donotcall; ftc; optin; optout; telemarketing

1 posted on 08/20/2008 5:35:53 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

Do they sell black boxes that will send a loud, ear shattering tone over the phone line when you push a button?


2 posted on 08/20/2008 5:37:44 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000
Do they sell black boxes that will send a loud, ear shattering tone over the phone line when you push a button?

I tell my 8 year old that Christmas has been cancelled. Same sound comes out of her.

3 posted on 08/20/2008 5:39:12 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Glenn

I wish you could teach her what Christmas is really about.


4 posted on 08/20/2008 5:40:28 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: steve86
I wish you could teach her what Christmas is really about.

I hope Santa brings you a sense of humor.

5 posted on 08/20/2008 5:41:33 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: HAL9000

bttt


6 posted on 08/20/2008 5:43:19 PM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: Glenn

His tagline should have given you a clue!


7 posted on 08/20/2008 5:43:26 PM PDT by frankjr
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To: Glenn

Oh, I correctly perceived your attempt at humor.

Still wondering why you thought it was funny.


8 posted on 08/20/2008 5:43:31 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Glenn

Or a lump of coal. wadda jerk


9 posted on 08/20/2008 5:43:40 PM PDT by steveo (Hi mom!)
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To: steve86
Still wondering why you thought it was funny.

Normally I avoid explaining the obvious. But I will try.

When an eight year old girl suffers anything resembling a disturbance in her emotional fabric, they shriek in a very high, very loud voice that sounds similar to the device the original poster called a "black box".

I was juxtaposing the two, which should have resulted in a spontaneous jiggly feeling in your diaphragm. Obviously, your brain processed the two as being completely unrelated.

Not your fault, of course. We all have deficiencies.

10 posted on 08/20/2008 5:49:40 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: coconutt2000

How would such a black box cause any upset to a prerecorded call possibly a black box type device?


11 posted on 08/20/2008 5:54:36 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Orationem pulchram non habens, scribo ista linea in lingua Latina.***)
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To: HAL9000
I'd like to see how effective that's going to be.

Here in Michigan, the law already existing on the book states that telemarketers utilizing pre-recorded announcements without the receiving party's approval constitutes prima facie evidence of intent to violate the commercial telemarketing law. Fines are punishable by $200 per offense + attorney fee's.

Over the last few months I've been barraged with telemarketers pre-recoreded announcements for Dish Network, Satelite TV, etc. I've repeatedly and every single time requested to be put on the do not call list (either by selection of the do-not-call option - if available (which it usually isn't) - or connect to a live human and directly request that I be removed from their call list). Sometimes I get notified automatically that I've been removed from the call list (usually pressing that option does nothing), and if I choose to connect to a live human, my request is greeted with either "Yes, sir, immediately.", or the more usual rude immediate disconnection sound & then dead air.

With caller ID its revealed that each and every satellite TV telemarking calls I've received since 17 Jul originate from different area code and exchange numbers (quite a few of them are identified as cellular calls). Nevertheless, the recorded announcment messages (and deals offered) are virtually identical.

12 posted on 08/20/2008 5:59:09 PM PDT by raygun
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To: ThomasThomas

I was thinking more in terms of real live telemarketers.

But I was actually thinking that telemarketing firms should be required to put in place a method for detecting when a person they’ve called pushes the number 1, automatically removing their name and number from their dial list and disconnecting the call.

No automated system in place, no permit to do business as a telemarketer.


13 posted on 08/20/2008 6:01:35 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Glenn
When an eight year old girl suffers anything resembling a disturbance in her emotional fabric, they shriek in a very high, very loud voice that sounds similar to the device the original poster called a "black box".

That's strange because my seven year old got over that two or three years ago. But then I guess neurological development occurs at different rates in different children, as does intellectual and moral development, which results in a suppression of those primal brain stem impulses in the quick learners.

14 posted on 08/20/2008 6:02:19 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: steve86
That's strange because my seven year old got over that two or three years ago.

Then we can scientifically note that it is not an inherited trait.

15 posted on 08/20/2008 6:05:36 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: HAL9000

Thank God.. I have been bombarded by prerecorded calls selling phony extended auto warranties for nearly a year. I actually spoke with their representatives several times and said I was on the Do Not Call Registry and not to call me. They typically hang up immediately if I ask the name of the company offering these warranties and their address. I have filed complaints with the Do Not Call Registry and my State Attorney General’s consumer fraud office without relief. With caller ID I have found they keep switching locations...sometimes calling from a Michigan phone number and lately from numbers in California...these are likely to be spoofed numbers to conceal where they really are from. I hope they get nailed.


16 posted on 08/20/2008 6:05:50 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: HAL9000
"The prerecorded message was an inexpensive way to reach customers and now you'll have to use operators to reach those customers," said Jerry Cerasale, senior vice president for government affairs with the Direct Marketing Association.

Awwwwww.

Just awwwwwwww.


17 posted on 08/20/2008 6:09:34 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: The Great RJ

I’ve been getting the auto warranty calls on my cell phone. I can’t imagine how they got that number and it’s annoying as he*#.


18 posted on 08/20/2008 6:10:57 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: coconutt2000

When I have the time I use the Abe Simpson method:

One trick is to tell them stories that don’t go anywhere. Like the time I took the fairy to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. Give me five bees for a quarter you’d say. Now where were we, oh ya. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn’t have white onions because if the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones.”


19 posted on 08/20/2008 6:12:49 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Orationem pulchram non habens, scribo ista linea in lingua Latina.***)
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To: The Great RJ

I get the same warranty calls in California...I’ve tried every trick in the book to get a call back number but they won’t give one. Sure wish someone could nail them.


20 posted on 08/20/2008 6:16:42 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: steve86

Wow your post was pathetically immature with that personal attack on his daughter. Seriously pathetic.

Pa-thetic!


21 posted on 08/20/2008 6:17:39 PM PDT by LiberalsSpendYourMoney (Liberalism is a tax on humanity)
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To: HAL9000
i will NEVER push a button cause a message tells me it's ok... push the button and you might just be accepting their contract or whatever.

as for humans, i have an old State Police whistle next to the phone.

22 posted on 08/20/2008 6:22:57 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

How ironic that I get an attack re: my statement that started out defending Christmas FROM A JEW!!!

And an amazing number of your recent comments have the word ‘pathetic’ in them.


23 posted on 08/20/2008 6:23:38 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Drango; The Great RJ
Those warranty fraud calls are already breaking many laws. This one isn't going to help. Someone is going to have to do a lot of sleuthing to figure out who they are, shut them down and put the ringleaders in jail.
24 posted on 08/20/2008 6:29:21 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: dan1123

Last one that called me got a bit angry when I asked for her home phone number. She asked why I wanted it. “So I can call you and bother you after 9pm like you did to me.” CLICK!


25 posted on 08/20/2008 6:56:21 PM PDT by Clay Moore ("Bro, face it. You (print media) guys are the 8-track cassette of news")
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To: raygun

Last one I got (a week ago) I pushed #1 for a live person. Then, as I was telling him politely that it was illegal to call me in this manner, he simply hung up.

I’m sure this will all stop with another law they will ignore, and no one can/will enforce.


26 posted on 08/20/2008 7:21:04 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: presently no screen name

+


27 posted on 08/20/2008 8:59:58 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Then, as I was telling him politely that it was illegal to call...he simply hung up.

Dude... use the cat playing with a mouse method. After hitting 1, and getting a live person, I play with them....talk jibberish.
Would you like an extended warranty? Sure!
Car year? Yes I have one!
Would you like an extended warranty? How's the weather!
What year is the car? Hold on the washing machine needs me....(pause) I'm back. Where were we?
Would you like an extended warranty? Frankfurt
What??? Accordions play the best polka.

28 posted on 08/20/2008 9:26:34 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: McLynnan
I’ve been getting the auto warranty calls on my cell phone. I can’t imagine how they got that number and it’s annoying as he*#.
Have you been job searching on the internet (like at monster.com) or put any other personal info (email/phone#) on the net? I read withing this last week (the actual complaints from customers where from like 2006 until recently) something about their database being hacked and MANY peoples personal info was stolen... Most of the people filing complaints said the harassment (telemarketers, including the auto-call) started anywhere from 20 minutes after they signed up with monster.com (and also some other jobs search site) and 2 hours...
29 posted on 08/20/2008 9:56:19 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Drango

Here is what I do.

I click #1 and get connected to a live person. I play along and act like I want to buy. When they ask me for my credit card information, I tell them my wallet is out in the car and ask them if I can put them on hold while I run out to the car to get it. They always say yes. I then put them on speaker phone and push the mute button so I can hear them but they cannot hear me.

Then I just sit and wait to see how long they will stay on hold. The longest has been 22 minutes.


30 posted on 08/21/2008 5:13:08 AM PDT by shaft29 (Just your typical black woman.)
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To: Bikkuri

No, I haven’t given out the number anywhere online. I’m pretty careful about giving it out and calls I place with it. Two women I work with are getting the same calls on their cell phones and we receive them on the same days — odd!


31 posted on 08/21/2008 5:57:47 AM PDT by McLynnan
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