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Explosive Audio Found Obama arguing against BAIPA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc ^

Posted on 08/20/2008 8:34:14 PM PDT by PowerPro

Barack Obama, his surrogates and minions in the media have repeatedly claimed that it would defy logic for him to have opposed medical treatment for newborn infants even those who had survived abortion attempts. He called NRLC liars and was offended that people would suggest that he, a father of two, would suggest such a ridiculous and cruel thing.

Now hear the truth. Listen to Senator Obama in his own words as he argues against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act in the Illinois State Legislature and states that two doctors helping a baby born alive after a botched abortion would cause an undue burden for the aborting mother.

Explosive Audio Found Obama arguing against BAIPA


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; baipa; bornalive; infanticide; obama; prolife; youtube

1 posted on 08/20/2008 8:34:15 PM PDT by PowerPro
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To: PowerPro

It would be a lot more useful if it didn’t have the goofy editing.


2 posted on 08/20/2008 8:35:11 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://dontgomovement.com/)
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To: PowerPro

That might leave a mark...


3 posted on 08/20/2008 8:39:21 PM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: PowerPro

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065197/posts?q=1&;page=201


4 posted on 08/20/2008 8:40:09 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: Corin Stormhands

bttt


5 posted on 08/20/2008 8:40:13 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I agree. Cut the rest of the music and such out and the reality of the audio hits a lot harder IMHO. (I didn’t post this on youtube btw)

That being said, the audio is damning and I believe will haunt Mr. Hope N. Change.


6 posted on 08/20/2008 8:40:19 PM PDT by PowerPro (God bless you RUSH/SEAN/MARK/LAURA/MICHELLE!!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

meh...it happens. ;)

I’m just glad people are hearing about this and are holding this man’s feet to the flames.


7 posted on 08/20/2008 8:43:43 PM PDT by PowerPro (God bless you RUSH/SEAN/MARK/LAURA/MICHELLE!!!!)
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To: FrPR

Too bad it was discovered on another thread alot earlier today and was mentioned on Hannity tonight. Old news.


9 posted on 08/20/2008 8:46:40 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: FrPR

I had heard on Hannity and Colmes that audio may exist where Obama speaks out against providing Equal Protection rights to these infants. I hope that this is true and if so, I can’t wait to hear it.

I learned about this link via The Corner over at National Review. http://corner.nationalreview.com

So I think that there are already a lot of conservative leaders who are already staying on top of this issue. That being said, if this link or the one someone else provided on FR gets more people’s attention on this issue, then I’m extremely pleased. :)


10 posted on 08/20/2008 8:50:37 PM PDT by PowerPro (God bless you RUSH/SEAN/MARK/LAURA/MICHELLE!!!!)
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To: LegalEagle61

It bears repeating.


11 posted on 08/20/2008 8:50:52 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: PowerPro
Remember in the Atlantic article Mark Penn said “Release the tape”. Is this the tape he was talking about?? 234 posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:40:35 PM by mathprof

I think this just may be the tape Mark Penn was talking about.

12 posted on 08/20/2008 8:55:04 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: PowerPro

Obama-forbid the mother be punished with a surviving baby.


13 posted on 08/20/2008 8:56:31 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: PowerPro

Obama lied, babies died


14 posted on 08/20/2008 8:59:58 PM PDT by reg45
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To: PowerPro
Needs to deliver the point sooner.

As is the meat comes at the end: the stark contrast of all-fired-sure pro-abortion vs "with specificity is above my pay grade".

Maybe one could add the "punished with a baby" line to cement the contrast.

16 posted on 08/20/2008 9:01:36 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: PowerPro

This is hate posting! - You can’t post stuff like that about a demmacrap.


17 posted on 08/20/2008 9:01:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: PowerPro
Obama meant every word when he said he didn't want his daughters...or it looks like any woman "punished" with a baby that they don't want.

That's his actual position based on his voting record.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

18 posted on 08/20/2008 9:04:56 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: PowerPro

I remember some time back, a tv program maybe 20/20 or 60 minutes did a show about some chicken company tossing live baby chicks who weren’t up to par in a trash can to die. Everybody went nuts on the chicken company. As well they should. But you get a hold of that footage and combine it with obama’s words, then make it clear that he voted to do that vary same thing to babies.

Just a thought.


19 posted on 08/20/2008 9:05:54 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: LegalEagle61

Good point. Let’s bury it. BTTT.


20 posted on 08/20/2008 9:08:14 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: All

Just to clarify...I didn’t make this video.

I do make videos though. My YouTube name is MarytheBeth and actually, I have a video on YT that I created last year supporting one of my favorite TV shows as a part of a contest (and I won, btw).

I’ve considered making them for this campaign cycle but my time is eaten up with my clients and their projects.


21 posted on 08/20/2008 9:10:20 PM PDT by PowerPro (God bless you RUSH/SEAN/MARK/LAURA/MICHELLE!!!!)
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To: REDWOOD99

By calling the NRLC a liar, they will go after him this fall. Expect this audio, along with the IL voting documents to show up on several 527 ads this fall. It will be devastating for him.


22 posted on 08/20/2008 9:10:50 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: PowerPro
This story now has legs AND a voice -- Obamanation's own voice!

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23 posted on 08/20/2008 9:11:06 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: PowerPro; antonius

24 posted on 08/20/2008 9:11:39 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: PowerPro

OK, let’s do the math——Obama’s under-the-bus and ‘burdened’ gramma is 80 or so, and his mother was (let’s say) 18 when he was born in 1961, so...minus 6....carry the 8....multiply by 4...

Surely it’s Obama’s burdened gramma’s constitutional right to have a 380th trimester abortion. The abortion squad can knock on Obama’s door, trepan him, and vacuum out his brains. It’s his gramma’s right. Anything less would be an infringement of her rights. Imagine the burden she’s carrying already with reporters trying to get a money quote every time she pokes her nose out her own window.


25 posted on 08/20/2008 9:14:14 PM PDT by perchprism
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To: LegalEagle61

It was new to me so thanks to the poster. thread cops are boring


26 posted on 08/20/2008 9:16:10 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom Cracker power Brother)
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To: perchprism

I personally think that Obama should resurrect the case of and come to the defense of Susan Smith. After all...it was her own children she killed.

If a mother has an absolute right to an abortion, including after the child has the audacity to survive the procedure intended to kill him/her (as is Obama’s position), then why should it matter whether or not a mother waits a few years before making her choice to kill her child?


27 posted on 08/20/2008 9:23:01 PM PDT by PowerPro (God bless you RUSH/SEAN/MARK/LAURA/MICHELLE!!!!)
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To: Salvation; cpforlife.org
This is not the first time that Obama has used the word “burden” to describe innocent life.

The Culture of Death cannot bear the weight of living testaments to the power of creation they seek to negate.

Has anyone noticed (I'm *sure* someone has) that it is precisely those who called out the epithet “Baby Killer!” at us as we were returning from Vietnam, who then undertook to facilitate the killing of 43,000,000 (and counting) babies? .....followed by those minions who took up their legacy ..... I guess this shows how Obama and Ayers are natural “Fellow Travelers.”

28 posted on 08/20/2008 9:23:36 PM PDT by shibumi (".....panta en pasin....." - Origen)
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To: PowerPro

Exactly.

And he’s lying thru his teeth now, not knowing that the audio proof of his support of infanticide is breaking news.

So as a presidential candidate he acknowledges the unacceptablility of a candidate who advocates the murder of infants.


29 posted on 08/20/2008 9:27:31 PM PDT by perchprism
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To: mware

hi, mware ... but from the Penn/Clinton perspective, there is nothing at all wrong with what Obama is saying on the tape. THere has to be more. Maybe tapes of him smoking a cigarette?


30 posted on 08/20/2008 9:27:58 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: perchprism

Obamarx has no soul. I think that this should show most Anericans that he is nothing less than a walking gouhl.


31 posted on 08/20/2008 9:47:13 PM PDT by wisconservative
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To: PowerPro; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
I'm sure team Obama tried to shred and destroy everything that would be used against him. But his whole political life has been an embarrassment. Obama is a Marxist to his core. This snake needs to be defeated.

Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

32 posted on 08/20/2008 9:51:45 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: All

I hope there is more audio out there of Obama.


33 posted on 08/20/2008 10:12:39 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: cpforlife.org; MHGinTN; narses; redgolum; wagglebee; Fred Nerks; Coleus; nickcarraway; ...
"an undue burden"?

Has anyone transcribed this yet into a printed transcript and posted it?

This has to be looped in a commercial, documenting the contradictions. If he has in fact lied on this issue, it will cost him votes. And he HAS to be challenged on this in debates.

34 posted on 08/20/2008 10:24:41 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: pepperhead; All

I’ll bet there is. Just the fact that this cut exists suggests it came from a longer version.

I may have misunderstood what they said on Hannity and Colmes. I had thought there was an audio where Obama expressly argues against these throwaway newborns from receiving Equal Protection per the 14th Amendment to the Constitution...but perhaps this is the audio to which Sean was referring.

Does anyone know?


35 posted on 08/20/2008 10:32:40 PM PDT by PowerPro (God bless you RUSH/SEAN/MARK/LAURA/MICHELLE!!!!)
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To: PowerPro

I can’t wait then!


36 posted on 08/20/2008 10:42:31 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: PowerPro

The republicans have been keeping their powder dry. God help Obama if and when he actually becomes the nominee. 50MM Howitzers will unload.


37 posted on 08/20/2008 10:45:58 PM PDT by johnnycap (I would really like the model of Civil Forum that Warren has created to be repeated across the count)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Baron Hill on WGCL supporting Obamassiah and BAIPA
WGCL Talk Radio | 8/20/2008 | WGCL
Posted on 08/20/2008 8:40:54 PM PDT by Sir Hailstone
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065272/posts

Transcript of Obama’s verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor
IL State Senate Transcript March 30, 2001, pages 84-90
Posted on 08/20/2008 10:46:53 PM PDT by cpforlife.org
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065303/posts

-related, thrown under bus redux-

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Yahoo!
Posted on 08/20/2008 9:10:02 PM PDT by profit_guy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065278/posts

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Posted on 08/20/2008 2:58:26 PM PDT by Syncro
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38 posted on 08/20/2008 11:30:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: mware

good memory. the one that a dem strategist was concerned would make obama “unelectable”


39 posted on 08/20/2008 11:59:07 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obamuh uh uh uh uh uh uh ummmmmm)
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Dems Have Reason to Be Worried (Obama’s Votes in Favor of Child Murder)
NRO’s The Corner | 8/20/2008 | Peter Wehner
Posted on 08/20/2008 12:30:43 PM PDT by mojito
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065066/posts

Smoking gun? Papers expose Obama’s ‘infanticide’ vote
Baptist Press | 8/20/08 | Michael Foust
Posted on 08/20/2008 2:15:23 PM PDT by LdSentinal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065109/posts


40 posted on 08/21/2008 12:13:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: shibumi
Has anyone noticed...that it is precisely those who called out the epithet 'Baby Killer!' at us as we were returning from Vietnam, who then undertook to facilitate the killing of 43,000,000 (and counting) babies?

..YES!!! And the irony is lost on them!

Who knows, if the teenage Stanley Ann, plaything of a polygamist, had gotten unexpectedly pregnant today, little Barry might never have been born -- and THEN where would we be without our 'postracial' messiah? Or better yet, where would HE be (at the bottom of a vacuum jar?).

41 posted on 08/21/2008 1:49:29 AM PDT by informavoracious (Drill Here, Drill Now!)
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To: informavoracious

I doubt that his holiness was ever in jeopardy. He was needed alive to fulfill his primary mission, as an “IN YOUR FACE!” statement to the man who named her Stanley.

I have also no doubt that his awareness of this role plays an major part in making him who and what he is today.


42 posted on 08/21/2008 2:33:21 AM PDT by shibumi (".....Mr Chekov, your agonizer, please.")
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To: All

People believe the election will center around the energy issue and perhaps, thanks to the situation in Georgia, national security.

It is my personal opinion though that abortion/infanticide will be the dark horse issue of this race.

I do not believe that a majority of Americans support abortion on demand, and I daresay that a significantly smaller percentage would be okay with infanticide.


43 posted on 08/21/2008 3:49:09 AM PDT by PowerPro (God bless you RUSH/SEAN/MARK/LAURA/MICHELLE!!!!)
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To: PowerPro

No I didn’t think you’d posted it. But I wish someone could find us 1) just the audio and 2) the specific reference to when he said this.

Somebody has to have it.


44 posted on 08/21/2008 4:45:32 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://dontgomovement.com/)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Note: this topic is from August 20, 2008. Obamacare re-ping.
Listen to Senator Obama in his own words as he argues against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act in the Illinois State Legislature...
Thanks PowerPro.
45 posted on 02/06/2010 10:17:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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