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Sen. Joe Lieberman's Just Desertion
Investors Business Daily ^ | 8-21-08

Posted on 08/21/2008 7:02:51 AM PDT by SJackson

Patriotism: Joseph Lieberman will be called a Judas for speaking to the Republican Convention, but he was betrayed by his own party for refusing to support losing a war for political gain.

It's only a matter of time before the long knives are unsheathed for Connecticut's "independent Democrat." Al Gore's 2000 running mate still caucuses with the Democrats, which lets the four-term senator maintain his seniority in committee assignments.

Lieberman serves in the plum post of chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, where earlier this year he published a powerful and fascinating report on how terrorist groups such as al-Qaida use traditional media and the Internet to propagandize and recruit on a global scale.

He is also a high-ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee and is currently visiting Georgia, Ukraine and Poland with fellow panel member Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., to show U.S. solidarity with those young democracies in the wake of the Russian invasion of Georgia.

But because he dared to place country before ideology and supported nothing less than victory in Iraq, Lieberman was targeted for destruction by his party and defeated in the 2006 primary by a blue-blooded leftist willing to spend his family fortune against him.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2006election; 2008; congress; democrats; demsformccain; elections; howarddean; joelieberman; lieberman; rncconvention; soros; ussenate
It won't be the first time a mob of cowards has ganged up on a hero

Uh oh.

IBD called Dems cowards, and Obama's a Dem.

Can't do that, it's not fair.

1 posted on 08/21/2008 7:02:52 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Joe Lieberman didn’t leave the ‘rat party. The ‘rat party left him for Ned Lament.


2 posted on 08/21/2008 7:08:20 AM PDT by AU72
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To: SJackson
" ... It won't be the first time a mob of cowards has ganged up on a hero ..."


Hero?

Stop already! I surrender.

3 posted on 08/21/2008 7:08:25 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: SJackson
"It's only a matter of time before the long knives are unsheathed for Connecticut's "independent Democrat."

I'd say that time has come quite a while back: what else would you call the Dim Party's active opposition to Liberman's re-election campaign?

4 posted on 08/21/2008 7:09:10 AM PDT by Redbob ("WWJBD" ="What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: AU72

OTOH, we don’t need liberals like him in the GOP either: we’ve already got Lindsay Graham, Chuck Grassle, Olympia Snow, et al.


5 posted on 08/21/2008 7:11:25 AM PDT by Redbob ("WWJBD" ="What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: SJackson
Speaking of Lieberman, from 2000...

Thou Shalt Not Steal Why rules really do matter -- more than results

6 posted on 08/21/2008 7:11:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: SJackson

Maybe he can repeat the “fire and brimstone” type of speech that Zell Miller gave! And, then threaten to kick Chrissy Matthews ass. Can only hope for a repeat.


7 posted on 08/21/2008 7:12:12 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead, then kill 'em again!)
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To: Redbob

He can stay Independent and still vote for the Republicans to organize the Senate.


8 posted on 08/21/2008 7:12:56 AM PDT by AU72
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To: SJackson
Joseph Lieberman will be called a Judas for speaking to the Republican Convention, but he was betrayed by his own party for refusing to support losing a war for political gain.

How did his party "betray" Lieberman? By not renominating him? Did Reagan "betray" Jerry Ford when he primaried him in 1976? Did Pat Toomey "betray" Snarlin' Arlen? This is silliness. I'm all for primary fights in the Republican Party -- nobody has the right to an uncontested seat.

9 posted on 08/21/2008 7:15:47 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: SJackson
To my mind there is one and only one reason that the Dims 'allow' Senator Lieberman to caucus with them; POWER!! If Senator Lieberman were to have gone over to the GOP, the Senate for the past 2 years would have been 50 / 50 and a certain VP would be there to decide the close votes and a certain Nevada Senate Majority Leader wouldn't be.

If the sheeple do what is predicted and I unfortunately expect, then they will be all too eager to make Senator Lieberman the most domestically liberal GOP member since Lincoln Chaffey.

10 posted on 08/21/2008 7:17:16 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: AU72

The UndemocratIC Party threw Joe Lieberman under the bus because he was politically incorrect in his support for the war.


11 posted on 08/21/2008 7:17:53 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: Alter Kaker

It came from the top of the Party to take Lieberman out.

It wasn’t a grass roots effort to get rid of him. It was the political machine running him over.

And he showed that a third party candidate CAN win in an election. The will of the wrongheaded Party be damned.


12 posted on 08/21/2008 7:19:35 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: AU72
He can stay Independent and still vote for the Republicans to organize the Senate.

And pansies like Chuck Hagel and Olympia Snow, elected as Republicans, can vote to organize with the Dems. I actually understand that Gordon Smith (RINO-Oregon) tried to switch parties this year to head off a strong Democrat challenge.

13 posted on 08/21/2008 7:20:08 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
I've said before and I'll say again, what is the attraction to Lieberman? You can almost hear Hannity drool when he talks to this man.... "this great American" who is pro-abortion.

No one went crazy over David Bonior---- He WAS pro-life---and, as it should have been, Republicans treated him as the liberal democrat that he was (is).

14 posted on 08/21/2008 7:20:57 AM PDT by Watershed
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To: weegee
It came from the top of the Party to take Lieberman out. It wasn’t a grass roots effort to get rid of him. It was the political machine running him over.

Really? Have any evidence to support that? Ned Lamont came out of nowhere, and I recall the DSCC and the Dem party leadership supporting Lieberman in the primary. Obama and Bill Clinton actually campaigned for Lieberman.

15 posted on 08/21/2008 7:21:37 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
How did his party "betray" Lieberman? By not renominating him?

No, I think that you can say 'betray' legitimately here for the following reasons;
1) Senator Lieberman has been such a staunch Democrat that he was the Dem's chosen VP Candidate in 2000.
2) He was running as a standard-bearing Democrat in the Conn. Primary in 2006.
3) The standard process of the National Democrats in such cases is to squelch internal opposition and give money to the incumbents.
4) Senator Lieberman was denied almost all such support and his opponent was given that support in the primary based almost solely upon their respective Iraq War positions!
5) Senator Lieberman was re-elected as an alternate "Connecticut_for_Lieberman" candidate and was supported by independents and Republicans as well as non-radical Democrats.

To my mind he was 'betrayed' by the national Dimocrat Party based solely upon his refusal to cut_&_run from Iraq!

16 posted on 08/21/2008 7:35:36 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: SJackson

Lieberman is a bad joke.


17 posted on 08/21/2008 7:36:28 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Redbob

1) Joe isn’t joining the Rs, he’s just speaking at the convention...

2) On a topic that he is more “conservative” on that some of the RINOs you listed.

3) It embarrasses the Ds (given he was their VP candidate just 8 years ago) and underscores how weak Ds are on national security and the need to win the “war on terror,” a concept most Ds thing was manufactured by Bush, Cheney, Rove and other “pro-Israel” supporters.

4) He helps the Jewish Vote which will be key in Florida and Michigan.

Make no mistake, Joe is a lefty on 99% of the issues but he is a patriot and wants to see the country succeed. That is what got him tossed out of the D party. I don’t agree w/ Joe 99% of the time but I’m happy to hear him talk about national security at the convention.


18 posted on 08/21/2008 7:38:54 AM PDT by The Hound Passer
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To: SJackson

I’ve come to the conclusion that McCain is gonna pick one of his towel-snapping good ol’ boy buddies no matter what. And from that column I think I’d take Pawlenty over any of the others—Graham, Ridge, Lieberman, etc. Not great for the economy or fighting illegal immigration, but probably as good as we could reasonably expect.

I just wish he hadn’t dampened down the recent excitement of the base with this Lieberman talk.


19 posted on 08/21/2008 7:41:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SES1066
1) Senator Lieberman has been such a staunch Democrat that he was the Dem's chosen VP Candidate in 2000.

Ronald Reagan primaried Gerald Ford in 1976. Ford was such a staunch Republican that he had been elected House Minority Leader, and nominated and confirmed as a Republican Vice President. Yet Reagan still challenged him, and for good reasons.

3) The standard process of the National Democrats in such cases is to squelch internal opposition and give money to the incumbents.

Which they tried to do -- check the record. However, the guy challenging Lieberman was a billionaire.

4) Senator Lieberman was denied almost all such support and his opponent was given that support in the primary based almost solely upon their respective Iraq War positions!

That's simply not correct. Lieberman's loonybins opponent, Lamont, received zero party support in the primary, unless you consider a few moonbats like Al Sharpton and Maxine Waters to represent the entirety of the Dem Party. You're correct that his support was entirely due to the war issue, but he received no support from any big name Democrats until after the primary and many big name Democrats, including Obama and Clinton, campaigned for Lieberman in the primary.

20 posted on 08/21/2008 7:45:11 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
I recall the DSCC and the Dem party leadership supporting Lieberman in the primary. Obama and Bill Clinton actually campaigned for Lieberman.

OK, I wasn't there and I may be faulty in recollection about Lieberman's support from the National Democrat resources. I do KNOW that Clinton campaigned for him in the Primary and I will take your word about Obama. My recollection is that the rest of the support was quite luke-warm and diminished rapidly as the Primary went on and Move-On and its ilk made such waves for Lamont.

21 posted on 08/21/2008 7:45:17 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: SES1066
My recollection is that the rest of the support was quite luke-warm and diminished rapidly as the Primary went on and Move-On and its ilk made such waves for Lamont.

Well, it varied. The left wing of the Dem Party was pretty luke-warm, whereas other Dems pretty actively supported Lieberman. But I think there's a pretty stark divide between "luke-warm support" and open betrayal. Open betrayal would be the Dem Nat Committee actively recruiting candidates to run against Lieberman. That's not what happened.

22 posted on 08/21/2008 8:01:47 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
Gordon Smith votes with conservatives 72% of the time, which is very commendable considering he represents the ultraliberal state of Oregon. He was also spawned from the ultraliberal Udall family tree, which makes his record even more commendable.

I'm far more concerned with the mix of conservatives and liberals in the Senate than I am with the mix of Democrats and Republicans.

While I don't appreciate some of the idiot causes he has alligned with (Gorebal warming, just like McCain), can you find him on this list just like McCain?

Here are the Senators who voted against the Cornyn amendment , which would have established a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals looking to snag a shamnesty visa. Republicans underlined:


23 posted on 08/21/2008 8:48:26 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: SJackson
You know, McCain - Lieberman would likely be a winning ticket. They could sell their "independent maverick" image as not falling for "politics as usual" which plays VERY well for the mushy middle, they can sell bipartisanship which plays very well in the media (and makes it tough for either party to whine about the opposition party "not cooperating"), and they can counter the loss of "a historic first" (first woman or black) with another... the first cross-party ticket.

(Nat saying it would be a ticket that is good for small-government conservatives, mind you...)

24 posted on 08/21/2008 9:01:19 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: Teacher317

It would be a winning ticket. Unfortunately, (A) it is not a conservative ticket so while we’d win the election, we wouldn’t win on policy significantly (it IS preferable to an Obama administration on the political agenda of the hard Left).

and (B) in 2012 it would leave us in the same situation we found ourselves this election, no encumbant in the race. McCain was as close as it came because he’d run the race for the White House already in 2000 and started working with Democrats For McCain2008 back in 2006.


25 posted on 08/21/2008 9:19:02 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: weegee
it IS preferable to an Obama administration on the political agenda of the hard Left).

When you made that statement, you already showed that you gave up the ghost. McCain knows that whatever he does, you and and others will vote for him....hence he has no reason at all to care what you think.

26 posted on 08/21/2008 9:21:43 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: weegee

Do you really think McCain cares what is best for we right-wing nuts, or for the future of the GOP?


27 posted on 08/21/2008 9:23:32 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: Vigilanteman

That is disgusting. But it happened before people put their blinders on.

28 posted on 08/21/2008 9:37:59 AM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: Teacher317
with another... the first cross-party ticket.

Check your history books. John Tyler, a Democrat, was William Henry Harrison's VP. Harrison was a Whig.

Andrew Johnson, a Democrat, was Abraham Lincoln's VP. Lincoln was a Republican.

29 posted on 08/21/2008 9:41:52 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Teacher317
I'll also remind you that both times Americans have elected Vice Presidents of parties other than their running mates, those Vice Presidents have succeeded to the Presidency. Andrew Johnson became President after Lincoln's assassination. He proved to be so much of a Democrat that the Republicans, who elected him Vice President, actually impeached him. John Tyler was so much of a Democrat that he was expelled from the Whig Party (to which he had nominally become a member for the purposes of the election).

John McCain is 72. Do you really want Joe Lieberman as your President?

30 posted on 08/21/2008 9:47:40 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Bushbacker1

There will never be another Zell Miller. Now there is a real man!


31 posted on 08/21/2008 11:45:30 AM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: Alter Kaker

Cool. Thanks for the history lesson!


32 posted on 08/21/2008 2:06:11 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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