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OBAMA AND INFANTICIDE (Reinhard)
The Oregonian ^ | August 21, 2008 | David Reinhard

Posted on 08/21/2008 10:03:20 AM PDT by jazusamo

E ver wonder how Barack Obama, the great healer, ended up with a more radical record on abortion than Sen. Hillary Clinton or even the zealots at NARAL Pro-Choice America? It comes down to the "Born-Alive Infants Protection Act." The bill was designed to provide legal protection for babies born alive during an abortion. Babies like the ones ex-nurse Jill Stanek saw discarded and left for dead at her hospital. The experience moved her to push for "Born Alive" legislation in Illinois, but Obama voted against the legislation -- three times.

Congress passed the federal "Born Alive" bill in 2002 without one opposing vote. Not even NARAL opposed the legislation, which President Bush signed into law with Stanek in attendance.

Why couldn't Obama, who talks about reaching across the aisle, find it in his heart to tiptoe onto this vast common ground to help the least among us? He's said since 2003 that he was all for "Born Alive" protection and that he would have voted for the federal bill if he had been in Congress; the problem was that the Illinois legislation didn't include the federal act's "neutrality clause." This clause limited the protection to infants born alive. It was a substantively pointless but politically crucial provision, since it addressed abortion-rights advocates' fears that the act might undercut Roe v. Wade's abortion right. (Substantively pointless because the bill applies only to an infant born alive and not a fetus or baby in utero.)

Here's the problem with Obama's explanation: The National Right to Life Committee has unrefuted records from the Illinois Legislature that prove it has no basis in fact. State Sen. Obama voted against a version of the act that contained a "neutrality clause" lifted from the federal legislation. In fact, as chairman of the Senate Health and Human Services Committee, Obama voted to include it in the state legislation before joining the committee majority in killing the whole bill.

It's often said that it's not the crime, it's the cover-up. Here, it's the crime and the cover-up. Misrepresenting the reasons for a key vote is the cover-up. Opposing efforts to help babies born alive in botched abortions is the crime -- enabling infanticide.

Obama said last weekend that determining where life begins is "above my pay grade." Surely, however, he recognizes the life of a baby born alive during an abortion is not above his pay grade. And yet he chose to kill a bill offering legal protection to these lives -- even when it included a provision that satisfied the most radical abortion-rights champions.

At the risk of committing blasphemy, you have to ask: What's with this guy? Does he think nobody will notice this kind of thing?

It doesn't end there. Last weekend, the Christian Broadcasting Network's David Brody asked about the issue. "I hate to say that people are lying," Obama said, "but here's a situation where folks are lying. I have said repeatedly that I would have been completely in, fully in support of the federal bill. . . . That was not the bill that was presented at the state level."

He called the National Right to Life Committee liars, but they have produced the documents. One is the Illinois "Born Alive" bill Obama opposed, with this neutrality clause: "Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being 'born alive' as defined in this section."

Here's the federal clause: "Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being 'born alive' as defined in this section."

I'll let others say Obama is lying about his position on the legislation. I won't use Obama's verbiage. It's enough to say that in charging the National Right to Life with lying about his record, Obama was bearing false witness.

Right after the Brody interview aired, the Obama camp admitted to The New York Sun that he had voted against a "Born Alive" bill with the neutrality clause. Which prompts two questions:

When will the media start chastising Obama for such fast-talking? How could Obama have voted to deny legal protection to these "born alive" babies?


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; bornalive; democrats; election; electionpresident; elections; infanticide; nobama08; obama; obamatruthfile; prolife; reinhard

1 posted on 08/21/2008 10:03:21 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Hmmm. I wonder when/if other newspapers will pick up on this. Chicago Tribune or Chicago Sun-Times anyone? When will the crickets stop?


2 posted on 08/21/2008 10:09:25 AM PDT by bcsco (Contact McCain today. NO to pro-choice VP!)
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To: jazusamo

Nice to see this in the Oregonian.


3 posted on 08/21/2008 10:11:18 AM PDT by Evie Munchkin (Abortion is this country's biggest moral failure)
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To: jazusamo
We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. - Declaration of Independence
4 posted on 08/21/2008 10:11:32 AM PDT by Faith
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To: jazusamo

Listen to him at the link below before it is pulled off you tube!

Explosive Audio Found Obama arguing against BAIPA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc


5 posted on 08/21/2008 10:14:07 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (A vote for any Democrat from BO on down the ticket is a vote for $10 a gallon gas.)
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To: Salvation; MHGinTN; cgk; Coleus

Ping!


6 posted on 08/21/2008 10:16:02 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

Wake up people. Don’t you know Obama says that kids are burdens? He tells his own daughters that.


7 posted on 08/21/2008 10:16:44 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Evie Munchkin

I believe David Reinhard is their only conservative voice.


8 posted on 08/21/2008 10:17:18 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Faith
Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness

BUMP!

9 posted on 08/21/2008 10:19:39 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Secret Agent Man; cpforlife.org; wagglebee

Actually, he teaches that babies are punishment. ... I’m still trying to figure out what his daughters must think their Mother was guilty of for God to punish her TWICE with them.


10 posted on 08/21/2008 10:20:40 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Thanks for linking that, it’s very telling.


11 posted on 08/21/2008 10:20:52 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: wagglebee

FYI


12 posted on 08/21/2008 10:21:18 AM PDT by Faith
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To: MHGinTN

Kids are burdens, don’t you know.


13 posted on 08/21/2008 10:22:39 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Faith
Pursuit of Happiness...............

Wish to the dickens people didn't confuse 'pursuit' with promise...as Dems seem to

14 posted on 08/21/2008 10:22:59 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: litehaus
Wish to the dickens people didn't confuse 'pursuit' with promise...as Dems seem to

Amen.

15 posted on 08/21/2008 10:25:21 AM PDT by Faith
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To: Secret Agent Man

I was referring to an Obama speech addressing the issue of aborting the alive unborn and his imagined response if his daughters should ‘make a mistake’.


16 posted on 08/21/2008 10:27:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Evie Munchkin
"Nice to see this in the Oregonian."

Surprised to see this in the Oregonian!

17 posted on 08/21/2008 10:35:52 AM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: MHGinTN

Me too. He said ‘kids are burdens.’


18 posted on 08/21/2008 10:35:58 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: jazusamo

Rush is talking about this now. I think he will play the clip. Yep - here it is.


19 posted on 08/21/2008 10:36:53 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (A vote for any Democrat from BO on down the ticket is a vote for $10 a gallon gas.)
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To: jazusamo

Hey, he was just saving women from a “punishment”...


20 posted on 08/21/2008 10:46:12 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: Secret Agent Man

He said he wouldn’t want to punish with the burden of a baby, as I recall.


21 posted on 08/21/2008 10:50:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: jazusamo

I wonder what his NARAL rating would be if he supported

killing kids up to 5 years old if they were “too burdensome”.


22 posted on 08/21/2008 10:53:28 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB

It’s for sure he and NARAL have a love affair.


23 posted on 08/21/2008 11:00:12 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

Liberals don’t care about ‘fetuses’ dontcha know? Now, if it were a baby whale, now that would be sad!

The Obama “infanticide” smear wouldn’t trouble me even if it were true

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6683920

The baby whale is going to be euthanized
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x8037295


24 posted on 08/21/2008 11:03:36 AM PDT by Dooderbutt (Al Gore - now the most sanctimonious lardbutt Yank on the planet ~ D. Thompson)
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To: Dooderbutt
Liberals don’t care about ‘fetuses’ dontcha know? Now, if it were a baby whale, now that would be sad!

Blame postmodernism and darwinism for this mentality.

25 posted on 08/21/2008 11:04:57 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Dooderbutt

But but but starving a mammal to death gives them euphoria was the plea with Terri Schiavo’s euthanasia! Mean ol liberals, don’t want this baby to experience euphoria. Figures


26 posted on 08/21/2008 11:12:23 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Dooderbutt

It’s unbelievably sad that leftists have more compassion for a whale than a human, even knowing their beliefs.


27 posted on 08/21/2008 11:16:18 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo
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28 posted on 08/21/2008 11:22:24 AM PDT by auboy (Men who cannot deceive others are very often successful at deceiving themselves. Samuel Johnson)
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To: MHGinTN

Same thing. Baby is punishment. Baby is a burden.


29 posted on 08/21/2008 12:25:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: jazusamo
A friendly tip:
Don't depend on Obama to help you
in a life or death situation.

30 posted on 08/21/2008 12:34:09 PM PDT by syriacus (They often call me BARRY, but my real name is MISTER SCHMOOZE. [by B.O. + the Faddish Hacks])
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To: jazusamo

This position is so extreme and so far out of the mainstream. This story has legs.

The fact that Obama lied about his true position and his votes just makes things worse for him.


31 posted on 08/21/2008 1:52:47 PM PDT by Cincinna (If Obama can’t stand up to Hillary, how would he ever stand up to Putin?)
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32 posted on 08/21/2008 5:01:24 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: jazusamo

Even animals protect their newborn.

This is a monster we are talking about here.


33 posted on 08/21/2008 5:20:42 PM PDT by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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