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In 2002, Barack Obama Supported Infanticide and I've Got the Transcript of His Words
redstate.com ^ | August 21, 2008 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 08/21/2008 10:23:34 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Editorial Note: People forget this issue came up more than once in Illinois. In 2001, Obama was concerned about abortion rights and the impact the Born Alive Infant Protection Act would have on abortion rights. In 2002, those concerns were addressed and fixed in the legislation. Now Obama's concerns were more clear. His views on life had no where else to hide.

What has Barack Obama said about his opposition to the Born Alive Infant Protection Act?

Obama has made several points, which we should recount.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; babykiller; baipa; bornalive; democrats; election; electionpresident; elections; infanticide; nobama08; obama; obamarecord; obamatruthfile
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A package of Born Alive bills was introduced three times during Obama’s tenure.

The cornerstone bill was the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which defined legal personhood. This definition was identical to the federal BAIPA (1) which was drafted from the definition of “live birth” created by the World Health Organization in 1950 (2) and adopted by the United Nations in 1955 (3)....

Here I will only post links to Obama’s actions and votes on the cornerstone bill, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. The bill number changed every year it was reintroduced.

2001

Senate Bill 1095 (4), Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Go here to view Obama’s “no” vote (5) in the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 28, 2001.

Transcript of Obama’s verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor (6), March 30, 2001, pages 84-90

Obama’s verbal oppostion to Born alive, (7) “And if we’re placing a burden on the doctor that says you have to keep alive even a previable child as long as possible and give them as much medical attention as — as is necessary to keep that child alive, then we’re probably crossing the lines in terms of unconstitutionality.” March 30, 2001

Obama’s “present” vote on the IL Senate floor ( 8 ), March 30, 2001

2002

Senate Bill 1662 ( 9 ), Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Go here to view Obama’s “no” vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee (10) on March 6, 2002. (ABC inadvertently coped bill #1663, a companion bill. The vote for the Born Alive bill, #1662, was identical.)

Transcript of Obama’s verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor (11), April 4, 2002, pages 28-35

Obama’s “no” vote on the IL Senate floor (12), April 4, 2002

2003

Senate Bill 1082 (13), Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Democrats took control of the IL Senate with the 2002 elections. They sent Born Alive to the infamously liberal Health & Human Services Committee, chaired by Barack Obama (14).

As can be seen on the Actions docket (15), Obama held Born Alive on March 6, 2003, from even being voted on in committee. It is also important to note from the docket that on March 13, 2003, Obama stopped the senate sponsor from adding the lately discussed clarification paragraph (16) from the federal BAIPA, to make the bills absolutely identical.

1. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h107-2175

2. http://www.who.int/healthinfo/statistics/indunder5mortality/en/

3. http://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/sconcerns/natality/natmethods.htm

4. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB1095.html

5. http://www.jillstanek.com/Senate_Committee_Vote_32701.pdf

6. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf

7. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf

8. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB1095_03302001_030000T.PDF

9. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB1662.html

10. http://www.jillstanek.com/Senate_Committee_Vote_3502.pdf

11. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST040402.pdf

12. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB1662_04042002_014000T.pdf

13. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1082&GAID=3&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=3910&SessionID=3&GA=93

14. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/committees/members.asp?GA=93&committeeID=85

15. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1082&GAID=3&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=3910&SessionID=3&GA=93

16. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=09300SB1082sam001&GA=93&SessionId=3&DocTypeId=SB&LegID=3910&DocNum=1082&GAID=3&Session=


21 posted on 08/21/2008 11:01:58 AM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude

The info and links I provided do no good if left here, copy and spread the word.


22 posted on 08/21/2008 11:03:00 AM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: Shelayne
Nobama is not talking about a PRECIOUS BABY. He is the liberator. He is LIBERATING the woman from the scourge and punishment of this "thing".

Now, you can see how he views children and himself as the Great Liberator.
I now have to go puke as I've seen the face of evil incarnate.
23 posted on 08/21/2008 11:10:35 AM PDT by TxAg1981
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To: Miss Didi

Icky.


24 posted on 08/21/2008 11:11:09 AM PDT by Shelayne (After seeing Obama without teleprompter, I think the tingle on Chris Matthews' leg is probably pee.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

bfl


25 posted on 08/21/2008 11:12:21 AM PDT by stockpirate (Be a maverick like McCain. Go against anything he wants us to do.)
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To: Joiseydude
Obama’s verbal oppostion to Born alive, (7) “And if we’re placing a burden on the doctor that says you have to keep alive even a previable child as long as possible and give them as much medical attention as — as is necessary to keep that child alive, then we’re probably crossing the lines in terms of unconstitutionality.”

I can make absolutely no sense of this statement.

26 posted on 08/21/2008 11:15:19 AM PDT by freespirited (Honk if you miss Licorice.)
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To: mattdono
I just listened to Rush playing Obama's audio.

It can't be any clearer: to Obama, the highest priority is not saving a born life. It is to keep as sacred the wishes of the mother.

Key to pinning Obama down on this point is to know what he feels should be done if a mother, having just given birth in an alley, decided to leave her baby in the dumpster.

27 posted on 08/21/2008 11:15:30 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“in fact, they’re not just coming out limp and dead”

that’s pretty clinical for a senator, isn’t it?


28 posted on 08/21/2008 11:18:15 AM PDT by antioscar
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To: OKIEDOC
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29 posted on 08/21/2008 11:18:50 AM PDT by auboy (Men who cannot deceive others are very often successful at deceiving themselves. Samuel Johnson)
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To: OKIEDOC

Good on you, doc.

It’s pathetic. Perhaps this country and definitely parts of this country the modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah...probably worse.


30 posted on 08/21/2008 11:19:34 AM PDT by mattdono (Only Lot will be left.)
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To: Always Right

Folks, he’s not the only one.

Barb Boxer is on record in the Senate as stating that the baby doesn’t deserve rights until you take it home from the hospital.

I have a feeling that a lot more dhimmirats have this core belief than would publicly admit it.


31 posted on 08/21/2008 11:21:20 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Yaelle

I don’t think you can say enough about this Obama fellow to turn the Americans stomach!

I have him on youtube telling about baby that survived the abortion and the Christians are still willing to vote for evil.

We are living in a sick society and this is proof.
Obama has lied so many times it is hard to keep the record straight and the Christians are still willing to vote for him.
According to the latest polls, Obama won the debate as far as Christians goes because John McCain lost points with the Christians. Very sick!


32 posted on 08/21/2008 11:21:44 AM PDT by Bigmouthbass
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To: Thorin

And, since they ARE indefensible,

the leftist Obama supporters will just simply deny his position on this.

Just like
“I don’t support socialism, so Democrats aren’t socialist”


33 posted on 08/21/2008 11:22:23 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Yaelle

“Key to pinning Obama down on this point is to know what he feels should be done if a mother, having just given birth in an alley, decided to leave her baby in the dumpster.”

He has already answered that question and he answered it for his own daughters: he wouldn’t want them punished with an unwanted baby.

The callousness of his statements should disturb most “normal” people (note: leftists are not normal people).


34 posted on 08/21/2008 11:23:09 AM PDT by mattdono (Only Lot will be left.)
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To: TxAg1981

He is the liberator -

the woman would experience too much burden on her decision if the botched abortion resulted in a live child.

After all, she was told it was no big deal, it’s not a baby, it’s just a punishment for having sex.


35 posted on 08/21/2008 11:23:43 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Further on in the transcript Obama gives us this gem: ...I think its important to understand that this issue ultimately is about abortion and not live births. Because if these are children that are being born alive, I, at least, have confidence that a doctor who is in that room is going to make sure that they're looked after."

Which would explain why that nurse who had testified before Mr. Obama had to go into that disposal area and cradle the aborted infant untill it died. Right. Disgusting.

36 posted on 08/21/2008 11:58:35 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: All

Obama is garbage.


37 posted on 08/21/2008 12:07:12 PM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: OKIEDOC

“Obama the aider and abettor to murder of the unborn”...

and the BORN........


38 posted on 08/21/2008 12:26:01 PM PDT by bperiwinkle7 ( In the beginning was the WORD................)
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To: Shelayne

Someone needs to buy an ad in the major newspapers of the nation and show the country what Obama has said. Maybe someone should post this on all forums on the net—make a video and post on YouTube. Letters should be sent to all the papers in the land with this data.


39 posted on 08/21/2008 12:41:24 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; cpforlife.org; narses; Coleus; Mr. Silverback; Fred Nerks; redgolum; MHGinTN
Has anyone transcribed and converted from pdf Obama's entire comments on the "born alive" abortion bill when it was up for a vote?

They should be posted in their entirety on FR so EVERYONE can see he's not telling the truth.

40 posted on 08/21/2008 12:56:41 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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