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To: Vigilanteman

Actually, the first Christians were also the first Communists:

Acts 4:

“32All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had. 33With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all. 34There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.”

Just sayin’. ;)


6 posted on 08/21/2008 1:36:44 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: RobRoy

Communism deliberately requires that one not believe in God, so while the early Christians were communal, do not mistake this for Communism.


8 posted on 08/21/2008 1:38:57 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: RobRoy; Paved Paradise
Actually, the first Christians were also the first Communists:

And they were 'communists' (holding all their goods in community) strictly by their own choice, and their God was the Only, True God - and not the god of the State, or man-centered government...

11 posted on 08/21/2008 1:44:28 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: RobRoy
Actually, the first Christians were also the first Communists

Depends on what you mean by Communist. Typically, when one uses that term, it refers to a system of government where people are forced to 'share'. If that is what is meant by the term, then it certainly doesn't fit those first century Christians.

12 posted on 08/21/2008 1:48:48 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: RobRoy

nonsense.

It is a common confusion with a vow of poverty.

The “christian left” is communists who are atheists willing to lie about their religious position.

This is like the liberation theology of south america which was just bloody marxists lying in order to coopt christianity.

The first Christians were NOT communists.


13 posted on 08/21/2008 2:01:59 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RobRoy
Pure BS. And if you don't understand the difference, you need to find a better Christian Conservative than me to explain it to you.

I have no objection if a group of like-minded people wish to form a voluntary association to care for the needy, pool their wealth, smoke bongs or whatever. Some take it a step further to communal living and having all things in common.

This has been tried numerous times in history including the early church, as you point out, and it has usually failed. Examples abound even in American history-- the Jamestown Colony, the Mayflower settlers, the Icarians, the Mormon United Order, the Oneida Colonies, even the modern Amish Communities to some extent, etc.

Communism is not based on voluntary association where people are free to join or leave the order. It is based on force and compulsion. It is the antithesis of Christ and Christianity. Even an apostate Baptist like Mike Huckabee understands this, so he has to cloak his message in populism and high sounding talk about responsibility to the planet and to our fellow men.

19 posted on 08/21/2008 2:33:41 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: RobRoy

“...Actually, the first Christians were also the first Communists...”

Yo, Robbie Roy...

NO ONE was holding a spear/arrow/gladius to their heads and forcing them to share hard-earned wages with anyone...

They did it because they wanted to, out of decency, charity (and probably economic necessity), from their hearts. But you know this!!!

By the way - “Rob Roy” was a GREAT movie!!!!!
Liam Neeson was excellent, and was it Tim Roth as the villain???? Great swordplay.


20 posted on 08/21/2008 3:18:52 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: RobRoy
Actually, the first Christians were also the first Communists: Acts 4: “32All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had. 33With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all. 34There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.”

There's a difference. They weren't forced to do this. They did it out of love for one another, just as Christians do today.

22 posted on 08/21/2008 3:45:34 PM PDT by bamagirl1944 (That's short for Alabama, not Obama)
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To: RobRoy

The difference between Christianity and communism is night and day, most certainly to God, who reads hearts. Christians share willingly. Communist states compel people to share.


23 posted on 08/21/2008 3:50:32 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Alaska has the oil. The Senate has the dipsticks.)
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To: RobRoy
Actually, the first Christians were also the first Communists:

Were they atheists?

26 posted on 08/21/2008 7:49:10 PM PDT by syriacus (They often call me BARRY, but my real name is MISTER SCHMOOZE. [by B.O. + the Faddish Hacks])
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