Skip to comments.Hot air about wind power : Why Mayor Bloomberg's idea won't work.
Posted on 08/21/2008 3:40:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
The visuals are terrific. Imagine the Empire State Building with a windmill on top rather than King Kong. That's how the New York Post depicted Mayor Michael Bloomberg's latest idea. Another illustrator adorned the Brooklyn Bridge with windmills atop its towers.
It's all because Bloomberg proposed that the Big Apple should blossom with windmills to provide at least one-tenth of its power.
What if his idea caught on? Why not mandate that every building taller than a few stories sport a rooftop windmill? We could include the Washington Monument. And every TV and radio antenna. And every hilltop and mountain, including those in national parks.
Don Quixote would be proud. But had Bloomberg done the math, he'd know that even if Manhattan were topped by a solid block of windmills, they wouldn't come close to meeting the city's power consumption.
Wind power has its place as a power source, but it's not a place at the top. It provides less than one-tenth of 1 percent of U.S. electricity because it costs more to produce. The wind may be free, but the equipment is expensive.
The costs are even dearer if you follow Bloomberg's other suggestion, namely floating windmills in the middle of the ocean.
How many windmills does it take to meet the power needs of a typical city, much less New York City?
At www.scitizen.com, Kurt Cobb worked the numbers. Generously, he presumed the windmills would use 5-megawatt turbines generating three times the output of a typical 1.5-megawatt turbine. He compared that with a 500-megawatt fossil-fuel (coal) power plant needed to power a city of 300,000 people. A typical power plant, he noted, would cover 300 acres, but use only 30 of those for the actual facility.
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Fixed it for them.
Did ya ever notice?
Solar and wind power contributions are never cited individually. The crooks always phrase it thus:
Solar, wind and hydroelectric account for 20% of our country's energy needs!
Guess which of the three is 19.8%?
The idea of creating artificial hazards to navigation in the form of floating windmill farms on the high seas is just nutty.
One of these days New Yorkers are going to have a moment of clarity and see that Bloomberg is nuts.
Bloomberg is so full of it, you could power half the city via methane recovery...
Here I'll disagree. After all, we create artificial hazards with oil wells, for example. To create them and not report them to whoever creates nav charts might even be illegal. But I've flown over at least one large windfarm off the coast of Holland and haven't heard of navigational difficulties with it.
And then there are all the natural hazards we manage to chart.
But liberals aren't really given to thinking things through and the idea of putting windmills on pre-existing structures is either stupid or ignorant.
I don't oppose wind farms that are firmly anchored to the seabed. What I find nutty is the idea of the "floating" farm. To create a stationary "floating" base on the high seas requires some kind of tether or a complex propulsion system. If either fails, you get a hazard wandering around sea lanes until the thing can be brought under control with a tug. Beside that, how do you string the transmission lines to it? Once all these problems are solved, the thing is utterly uneconomical.
I do think offshore wind farms make sense, although when you take away port approaches and what the NIMBY's will block, there really aren't enough sites to make a big dent in our needs.
They seem to have solved the problem of transmission lines, since they already have deployed these (I suspect the ones I saw were anchored to the sea bed since the water there isn't very deep I believe).
But you're right, if one gets loose it's a bit of a hazard.
Just a thought, and for sale to Bloomberg: Make it a condition of living and/or working in New York, that every person there wear a solar panel vest, and a beanie with a miniature wind-power propeller. This, of course, in addition to gracing Gracie Mansion with a fleet of wind turbines on the roof.
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