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Gay Democrats talk strategy (This is NOT a caption thread! It isn't funny - really!)
Aspen Times ^ | 8/21/08 | Kristen Wyatt

Posted on 08/21/2008 10:05:44 PM PDT by Libloather

Gay Democrats talk strategy
Kristen Wyatt
The Associated Press
Aspen, CO Colorado

DENVER — Gay and lesbian Democrats are gathering early to prepare a strategy for next week's convention, and their marching orders are the same for all states: Make sure other delegates know who you are and what gay voters want this fall.

The Stonewall Democrats started a four-day "boot camp" in Denver Thursday. At the top of their agenda for the convention, which starts Monday, are pushing Democrats to fight proposed gay-marriage bans in three states and passing federal anti-discrimination laws.

With a record 370 lesbian, gay and transgendered delegates to this year's convention, Stonewall Democrats say they're primed to drive Democrats' plans more than ever before. The number of gay delegates is up almost 100 from 2004, and they now make up some 6 percent of all delegates. Only two states — Nebraska and North Dakota — won't send any openly gay delegates.

Stonewall Democrats spokesman John Marble said the No. 1 message of gay delegates should be that a gay-friendly agenda from Democrats will help the party as a whole. The group will argue that opposing anti-gay-rights measures on ballots in Arizona, California and Florida will help Democratic fortunes in all races in November.

"It's something our nominee should feel comfortable talking about," said Ann Baker, a Stonewall Democrat from Roosevelt, N.J.

One topic not on the table next week: a federal gay marriage push. The Democratic nominee-in-waiting, Sen. Barack Obama, has said he favors civil unions but not gay marriage, and Stonewall Democrats are unlikely to push party delegates to call for federal marriage equality.

"As far as the marriage issue, our focus on marriage is on the state and local level," Marble said. He said gay Democratic delegates will talk more about a possible federal ban on discrimination against gay, lesbian and transgendered employees.

But Marble added that Democrats have made clear they value gay and lesbian votes. Scheduled to address Stonewall Democrats this weekend are Democratic Govs. Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas and Deval Patrick of Massachusetts.

Gay Republicans are putting together a "Big Tent Event" during the Republican National Convention in Minneapolis next month.

Log Cabin Republican President Patrick Sammon says there's fresh optimism among gay Republicans that they'll have a bigger influence of their party at this year's convention, though they haven't announced who will meet with them.

"We have our strongest presence ever at a Republican convention" with about two dozen delegates, Sammon said. "We are there to talk about why the party needs to be more inclusive" and push Republicans to avoid "socially divisive issues" such as same-sex marriage.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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If you're gonna pander, you might as well go all the way...

1 posted on 08/21/2008 10:05:45 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
The number of gay delegates is up almost 100 from 2004, and they now make up some 6 percent of all delegates.

But how many super gay delegates are there?

2 posted on 08/21/2008 10:08:15 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Libloather

Worth the read just to see your Obama photo.


3 posted on 08/21/2008 10:09:15 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Libloather

Yes you stupid-ass log cabin republicans. Adopt the democrat strategy of flase unity by ignoring controversial issues like they don’t exist.

Idiots. F#cking idiots. I am so sick to death of incrementalism destroying the republican party. Thank God I’m conservative first. Won’t hurt as bad when the party finally tanks itself or merges with the dems.


4 posted on 08/21/2008 10:10:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: TheWasteLand

They have 3 times as many delegates as they should, given they are only 1-2 percent of the population. Sorry, 66 of you aren’t getting in.


5 posted on 08/21/2008 10:11:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Libloather
Make sure other delegates know who you are and what gay voters want this fall.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it won't be "More Cowbell?"

The Stonewall Democrats started a four-day "boot camp" in Denver Thursday.

Okay, I have to know why Gay Dims are called "Stonewall" Democrats. If it has anything to do with Stonewall Jackson...

6 posted on 08/21/2008 10:12:13 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Sarah Palin can be my running mate anytime.)
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To: GOP_Raider

Stonewall Jackson was gay?


7 posted on 08/21/2008 10:14:03 PM PDT by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: Libloather

I would actually welcome these people; they are guaranteed to embarass everyone there & turn the Dem convention into an even bigger travesty.


8 posted on 08/21/2008 10:16:08 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: lookout88

Not according to anything I’ve read. I knew he was devoutly religious, this is an unusual name if you ask me...


9 posted on 08/21/2008 10:16:09 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Sarah Palin can be my running mate anytime.)
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To: Libloather
A moment of clarity . This will be a great show . I'm glad (no pun ) the dems are going first. It will prove to the rinos that we only need one big tent fringe party. By the end of the shows more people will be for lower taxes , being fuel sufficient ,law and order and at the very least , an end to state sponsored infanticide. Left , right those are words , when the party is over and most Americans sober up , reason will return .
10 posted on 08/21/2008 10:17:27 PM PDT by fantom
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To: GOP_Raider

The Stonewall Democrats are named after the Stonewall bar in New York City, which is where the modern day gay rights movement took a great leap forward. In 1969, gays in the bar fought back against police who in those days would go into gay bars and hassle people, or arrest people for things like same sex kissing or sex behavior. Gays fought back against being picked on like that.

The name has nothing to do with Stonewall Jackson.


11 posted on 08/21/2008 10:17:35 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: lookout88

Well here is a Wikipedia entry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_Democrats

Ah, it’s a Barney Frank conspiracy, this is getting even stranger...


12 posted on 08/21/2008 10:18:02 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Sarah Palin can be my running mate anytime.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Okay, that makes more sense (as much sense as this topic can possibly make). Thanks.


13 posted on 08/21/2008 10:19:06 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Sarah Palin can be my running mate anytime.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; GOP_Raider

Stonewall Bar was a homosexual hangout which was notorious for its “chicken hawk” culture-preying upon underage targets. The police made several attempts to clean up the cesspool, until finally the fags rioted.

Now that boy-loving venue is immortalized in the anals of gay history.


14 posted on 08/21/2008 10:24:56 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (A community in Chicago is missing an organizer.)
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To: GOP_Raider

They are getting bolder with pushing the gay agenda.

If Dems. are so gay friendly, why is it that, at the 2004 convention in Boston, nothing at all was said about same-sex marriage? That was a perfect set-up, because the Mass. court has ordered homosexual marriage to start just a few months before that convention.

It was all set up for them to talk about the land of Paul Revere and John Adams, and comparing the liberty of homosexual marriage with the revolutionary war and John Adams, Sam Adams, and Paul Revere. But the Democrats didn’t say anything about this so called great civil rights struggle at that time.

With all this gay talk, only a handful of Dems. including Ted Kennedy and Dennis Kucinich openly favor homosexual marriage.


15 posted on 08/21/2008 10:26:21 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Libloather

Stay away from Denver next week!

You might catch gay.


16 posted on 08/21/2008 10:27:12 PM PDT by JRochelle (Joe Biden says high fructose corn syrup is more dangerous than terrorists.)
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To: TheWasteLand

“But how many super gay delegates are there?”

More importantly, would anyone need a second opinion if an Obama super gay delegate says ‘I am ready to switch.’

Or, ‘I am afraid of a Hillary come-from-behind revival.’


17 posted on 08/21/2008 10:29:32 PM PDT by Ben Reyes (Am Conservative Republican - 'nuff said.)
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To: Libloather
The group will argue that opposing anti-gay-rights measures on ballots in Arizona, California and Florida will help Democratic fortunes in all races in November.

This is going to create an interesting problem for the Dems. Even liberal California has successfully passed bans on same-sex marriages. Four liberal California supreme court judges legislated from the bench by voting to overturn the votes of 61% of all Californians. We are now in the process of voting for a constitutional amendment to make marriage between a man and a women. So even if 5 % of those that supported Proposition 22 have changed there mind, there is still a large enough majority that will vote for the amendment.

18 posted on 08/21/2008 10:29:33 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked ( Support Free Republic)
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To: Libloather
Obama is the gayest looking candidate since James Buchanan.

Maybe we should have nominated Crist or Lindsey Graham to get the 3% of the population that is gay or bi.

19 posted on 08/21/2008 10:29:59 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Libloather

Why doesn’t Obama run ads showing his support for Gay Rights?
He should respect his back door brothers and bearded sisters.


21 posted on 08/21/2008 10:31:56 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: Libloather

We should just kick out the log cabins. Our party is not about turning sexual peculiarities into civil rights. We don’t need to know there sexual orientation and it should have nothing to do with their politics.


22 posted on 08/21/2008 10:34:05 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: Clemenza
Obama is the gayest looking candidate since James Buchanan.

And the smarmiest since Samuel Tilden.

23 posted on 08/21/2008 10:36:20 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Sarah Palin can be my running mate anytime.)
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To: lookout88
No, but Nathan Bedford Forrest was known to wear assless leather chaps. We know for a fact that Jefferson Davis once wore a woman's cape to escape the Yankees.

The Confederacy was filled with "MAN's men", don't you know. ;-)

24 posted on 08/21/2008 10:43:47 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Maelstorm
He does.
25 posted on 08/21/2008 11:17:43 PM PDT by Weya (Barack Hussein Obama hates the United States of America. No question about it.)
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To: Clemenza

“No, but Nathan Bedford Forrest was known to wear assless leather chaps. We know for a fact that Jefferson Davis once wore a woman’s cape to escape the Yankees. “

Awww...Isn’t that cute. You really believe that.

“The Confederacy was filled with “MAN’s men”, don’t you know. ;-)”

Yeah, and the Union women spread (what an appropriate word) that story to all their husbands that were away. The Union was filled with “cuckolded men”, don’t you know. ;-)


26 posted on 08/21/2008 11:27:35 PM PDT by Weya (Barack Hussein Obama hates the United States of America. No question about it.)
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To: Weya

LOL!!!


27 posted on 08/21/2008 11:28:14 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Clemenza

Touche’


28 posted on 08/21/2008 11:34:28 PM PDT by Weya (Barack Hussein Obama hates the United States of America. No question about it.)
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To: Libloather

Why do I have a feeling that straight white males will be dramatically underrepresented, relative to their percentage of the US population, at the Democrat convention?


29 posted on 08/21/2008 11:53:48 PM PDT by LiberalsSpendYourMoney (Liberalism is a tax on humanity)
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To: Libloather
YAY! THE CIRCUS IS IN TOWN!!!!

You can tell...here come the clowns!

30 posted on 08/22/2008 2:04:58 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
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31 posted on 08/22/2008 2:40:24 AM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: Libloather


32 posted on 08/22/2008 3:50:02 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Libloather
Give the homosexuals a remote island and move them all there. They can bugger their brains out and who would care.

Roaming around 'polite society' just keeps them close to our children...which is really what they're after.

33 posted on 08/22/2008 4:11:26 AM PDT by IbJensen (Ali Bama isn't going to make it!)
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To: TheWasteLand
But how many super gay delegates are there?

lots, thanks for asking.


34 posted on 08/22/2008 4:18:54 AM PDT by edzo4 (Vote McCain, Keep Your Change)
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To: Libloather; All

The ratchet effect.

The homosexuals infest the political process to scare the GOP to do nothing while the rest work to tighten the screws in socialist camp.

NOT ONE mention in the article about the SPECIFIC states with pending marriage amendments.


35 posted on 08/22/2008 4:35:57 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TheWasteLand

I think the correct term is “Fabulous Delegates”.


36 posted on 08/22/2008 4:44:44 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: GOP_Raider
Okay, I have to know why Gay Dims are called "Stonewall" Democrats. If it has anything to do with Stonewall Jackson...

Stonewall riots. "The Stonewall riots were a series of spontaneous, violent demonstrations retaliating against a police raid that took place in the early morning hours of June 28, 1969, at the Stonewall Inn, in the Greenwich Village neighborhood of New York City. ... have become the seminal event marking the beginning of the gay rights movement in the United States ... blah blah blah."

37 posted on 08/22/2008 5:22:27 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("I've studied bible prophecy 30 years" usually means "I have everything Hal Lindsay ever wrote.")
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To: Libloather

The Republicans could make some good money selling the DNC the GOP initials. “Gay Old Party”.


38 posted on 08/22/2008 10:32:09 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: Libloather

So much for the lies that there is no homosexual “agenda” and that it is strictly about consenting ADULTS in PRIVATE.


39 posted on 08/22/2008 10:34:32 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: GOP_Raider

Stonewall has to do with a series of riots after police raided an illegal unlicensed bar.


40 posted on 08/22/2008 10:36:00 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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