Skip to comments.Democrats far outnumber Republicans (Ohio)
Posted on 08/22/2008 6:54:45 AM PDT by TonyRo76
As Ohio Democrats pack for their national convention in Denver next week, they have quietly rolled up an advantage that almost no one has noticed: nearly a million more registered voters than Republicans.
Almost three times as many Ohio voters have become Democrats as have become Republicans since the summer before the last presidential election.
William C. Binning, political-science professor at Youngstown State University and former Mahoning County Republican chairman, acknowledged that the surge of Democrats shows that the party is energized and motivated in Ohio -- and that Republicans have a lot of work to do.
"I certainly think it's a good sign for the Democrats," he said.
The Democratic explosion stems from two factors, experts say:
Ohio's political pendulum is swinging toward the Democrats, as Republicans by and large get the blame for an unpopular president and war, a sour economy and recent scandals in state government.
Boatloads of new voters -- and even a smattering of Republicans -- showed up at this year's Democratic primary because of the hot race between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
Ohioans become officially registered with a political party when they actually vote for candidates from one party or the other in a primary election. Unlike in some states, Ohio voters do not declare a party when registering to vote.
While Ohio's playing field has tilted toward Democrats, that doesn't automatically translate into a Buckeye State victory for Obama over Republican Sen. John McCain.
Binning noted, for example, that Clinton drew strong support among Democrats in Ohio -- outpolling Obama in all but five of the state's 88 counties -- and it's unclear how effective Obama will be in winning over Clinton supporters.
Former Ohio Democratic Chairman David J. Leland, who headed a nonpartisan voter-registration effort in 2004 called Project Vote, said this year's primary brought many "nominal" Democrats to the polls who already supported the party's candidates in general elections.
"It looks more dramatic than it probably is because of the way we do voter registration in this state, but there's no question the enthusiasm for voting in the Democratic primary was palpable, not only in Ohio but throughout the country," Leland said.
Democratic voter registration totals are up nationwide, bolstered by the Obama campaign's aggressive recruitment of new voters, said Dan Seligson, editor of the nonpartisan electionline.org.
Although it's difficult to compare Ohio with other states because not all follow the same rules for registering voters, the Democrats' advantage in the Buckeye State is striking, said Doug Lewis, the executive director of the nonprofit Election Center in Houston.
"It means there's obviously a concerted effort by Democrats and Democratic forces there," Lewis said.
Ohio now has more than 2.4 million registered Democrats compared with almost 1.5 million Republicans. (A slight majority of voters -- 4 million -- are not affiliated with either party.)
The new Democratic dominance shows up in some unexpected places.
Four years ago, Butler County was one of the keys to George W. Bush's re-election. With turnout exceeding 90 percent in some precincts, the Republican president beat Democratic Sen. John Kerry almost 2-to-1 in the area northwest of Cincinnati.
But this year, Butler County has more registered Democrats than Republicans. The GOP has added more than 11,000 to its rolls there, but Democrats have attracted nearly 33,000 new members in the past four years.
Democrats grew more than Republicans in all but 12 of Ohio's 88 counties.
Franklin County showed the largest numeric increase, nearly 123,000 additional Democrats -- almost four times the GOP total.
Former Dispatch chief librarian Jim Hunter contributed to this story.
In Ohio, I don’t think “registered voters” means the same thing as people as people eligible to vote.
Plus, whatever additional dims signed up this year who aren't with operation chaos were probably dead Republicans.
Ohio voters do not declare a party when registering to vote.
However, he dismissed Op. Chaos as a "smattering" of Republicans crossing over to vote.
Okay, if they don't register by party, then how does the author know if there was a smattering or a significant number? Exit polling? Maybe. But I personally wouldn't put a lot of faith in those voters causing mischief to be forthcoming in answering exit polls.
This article comes across as wishful thinking. Especially when the OH polling routinely shows a statistical dead heat in the Presidential race. A million more voters [cough], and the Obamessiah can't even get a sustained lead? Yeah, sure...
“Democrats grew more than Republicans in all but 12 of Ohio’s 88 counties.”
I wonder if the increased number of Dems is directly proportionate to the increase in the number of illegal aliens in Ohio.
How many signed up just to vote against Obama in the primary? My guess a lot of them.
Like anywhere else in the country, if the Dems can't win an election honestly, they know they can always cheat.
OK, more satire from a name like the Columbus Debauch ?
Well, my wife voted for Obama in the primary, even though she’s an R, just because she hates Hillary so much. She won’t be voting Obama in the fall. I suspect there were thousands like her who voted D just for “operation chaos.”
Only reason I opted to stick with "R" this spring was to support some good local people down-ballot, who were running against RINOs.
Lots of DINOs I suspect.
Technically that's true. But you have to sign for a D or R ballot when voting in the primary.
You agree with the tenants of whatever party's ballot you choose.
Personally, I find that unconstitutional.
I voted Dem during the first "Perot" campaign and in a free society, I insist that is my right! My reasons were my own.
Beginning to have a real problem with the convoluted way we "choose" a president in this country. And the "MEDIA" has way too much control in the process. Projecting "winners" early on and phony "exit polling" by PAID so called "pollers" is incredibly unconstitutional.
I would tell such a person that it's none of anyones D#@*^ED business how I voted!!!!
Ha! Actually, that's just my name for the Columbus Dispatch. Alternately I sometimes call it the Disgrace, the Descratch, etc.
It's locally owned by an old-money family of liberal, Rockefeller-y RINOs. Total puke of a paper!!
I understand that, and it makes sense. Voters should not, in my view, be allowed to vote in both primaries. But if that's what they're basing their numbers on, it's absurd. You had a very high profile Dem race, an already decided GOP race, and a fella named Rush Limbaugh helping to stir the pot. Of course (!!) there would be more voters requesting Dem ballots.
From my reading, it sounds like they're also basing the numbers on how many registered voters were submitted by each party. That makes some sense, but given the ACORN and other problems I view it suspiciously. And lots of people will be nice and fill out forms if an attractive person smiles and hands them a clipboard. Getting them to vote is another story.
If this article were even somewhat true, I'd expect Obama to have a significant polling lead. Instead, I've seen no real change from the 2004 race.
“Beginning to have a real problem with the convoluted way we “choose” a president in this country. And the “MEDIA” has way too much control in the process. Projecting “winners” early on and phony “exit polling” by PAID so called “pollers” is incredibly unconstitutional.”
Ytown has always been Democrat
We do not register as either Republicans or Democrats in Ohio.
Our party affiliation is determined by whom we vote for in the primary. If you don't vote in the primaries, you are unaffiliated.
Notice that more that half of registered Ohioans are unaffiliated.
Consider that the Republican primary race was already determined by the time the Ohio primary occurred. Many Republicans stayed home, especially if there weren't any state or local races that interested them. In heavily democratic areas where they had no hope of their preferred candidate winning, there was little reason to show up at the polls.
Also consider Operation Chaos. I don't think it had a huge effect, but it undoubtedly had some effect.
There was little reason to show up for the primary at all if you were a Republican. There was a highly competitive race among the Democrats with a huge amount of campaign ads here. There was a huge turnout for Democrats that broke all previous records for a primary. Republican turnout was horrible because there was considerably less reason to vote as a Republican in the primary.
The general race is very different, and the polls show McCain ahead of Obama. I have little doubt that McCain will pick up far more of those unaffiliated voters than Obama will and those who participated in Operation Chaos won't be voting for Obama.
I also expect that a number of Democrats that voted for someone other that Obama in the primary won't be voting for him in the general election either.
Obama had potential to win when he was a charismatic candidate that few knew much about. I had thought he would trounce McCain in Ohio because McCain isn't charismatic which appeals to independents and liberals, nor is he conservative. However, the more people get to know Obama the more it becomes obvious how truly terrible of a candidate he really is.
I'm forced to now say that I believe I was wrong, and that McCain will likely beat Obama in Ohio by a considerable margin.
Hardly what I'd call lies. And the article did address your point above.
They don't have a clue that these people registered Democrat to prolong the primary battle between Obama and Clinton, Inc.
exactly,I think mccain will win ohio easily,you take out the dead dem voters,the illegal dem voters and the outright cheating and also the op kaos voters switching back,,walaa! and obama wouldnt get enough votes to get a state office,let alone the presidents job.
All they can say is that more people voted in the Democrat primary than in the Republican one, which since the Republican presidential candidate had already basically been chosen before the Ohio primary is hardly significant.
I’m guessing you didn’t read the article or the thread’s comments.
In 2004 the Democrats registered 250 thouand new democrats and Republicans registerd some 80 thousand new republicans.
Over 125 thousand of the new Democrats were registered in Columbus. Ohio. NOte that the story mentions the increase in Democrat registratins since before the 2004 election. That is so they can include the 250 thousand fake registrations made by groups ripping off the Democrats.
Their were over a thousand fake names registered in Pike County Ohio.
The Bush campaign sent me to Pike county to get the names of all those fake voters registered by the Democrats. Bush had both attorneys and volunteers on hand at the polling places where these “New Democrats” had been registered to object to them voting. They would have been allowed to vote but their ballots would not have been counted until they were verified as legitimate voters. The Bush Campaign knew from the fake names and addresses they were fake.
I got a call shortly after noon on election day 2004 to tell me that not a single one of the fake voters had tried to vote so far. And that Bush was going to win Ohio.
Most of those fake voters had been registered by ACORN. The people who registerd them were paid 10 dollars each. Some of those hired to registere Democrats were registering as many as 100 new voters a day. They had to be fake. It takes about 4 hours of either phone or door to door canvasing to find one new voter.
I just saw where a Obama amended his federal filings to report that a company owned by ACORN had been paid some $750,000.00 dollars to register new voters in OHIO before the Democratic primary.
You will note that Obama only won 5 counties out of Ohio’s 88. That just tells us ACORN ripped off the lefist 527s in 2004 and now has ripped off the Obama campaign in 2008.
Back in 2004 the Republicans who volunteered to register voters were asked to turn the registration forms into the local party head quarters. Some 80,000 new voters were turned in. A local party official would call the person to be registered to be certain they were legitimate. Only when the new voter was determined to be legit did the Republicans turn their registration form into the board of elections.
This story is bull crap.
» This story is bull crap.
BTW, seems like it's been ages. Nice to see you on here again :)
OPERATION CHAOS strikes again!!!