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2008 Is the Coldest Year of the 21st Century
Slashdot ^ | 8/21/8 | timothy

Posted on 08/22/2008 8:05:10 AM PDT by Clint Williams

dtjohnson writes

"Data from the United Kingdom Meteorological Office suggests that 2008 will be an unusually cold year due to the La Nina effect in the western Pacific ocean. Not to worry, though, as the La Nina effect has faded recently so its effect on next years temperatures will be reduced. However, another natural cycle, the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, is predicted to hold global temperatures steady for the next decade before global warming takes our planet into new warmth. If these predictions are correct, there must be a lot of planetary heat being stored away somewhere ... unless the heat output from the sun is decreasing rather than increasing or the heat being absorbed by the earth is decreasing due to changes in the earth's albedo."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: climatechange; weather

1 posted on 08/22/2008 8:05:11 AM PDT by Clint Williams
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To: Clint Williams

Unless, if, until, might, could, possibly.............


2 posted on 08/22/2008 8:08:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Clint Williams
the heat being absorbed by the earth is decreasing due to changes in the earth's albedo."

Part of natures wonderous feedback system controlling the weather. As temperatures get hotter, pasty middle aged white guys take off their shirts when outside. The increase in reflectivity reduces the amount of sunlight absorbed thus cooling the Earth.

3 posted on 08/22/2008 8:08:58 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: Clint Williams

Duplicate:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065647/posts


4 posted on 08/22/2008 8:09:44 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: xcamel; Reform Canada; steelyourfaith
Unless, if, until, might, could, possibly.............

In before camel.

Not exactly. What the writer is doing is satirizing the extremists (but commenting about the (missing)source of the heat (lower solar levels), while pointing out (very subtly, that CO2 levels have been constantly increasing.

5 posted on 08/22/2008 8:13:58 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: KarlInOhio
As temperatures get hotter, pasty middle aged white guys take off their shirts when outside. The increase in reflectivity reduces the amount of sunlight absorbed thus cooling the Earth.


6 posted on 08/22/2008 8:21:12 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Clint Williams

How come I and other posters know about the Earth’s feedback system that leads to equilibrium but these highly-paid “scientists” don’t?


7 posted on 08/22/2008 8:22:11 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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To: Clint Williams

These pompous fools can’t tell us what the weather will be two weeks from now. What makes them think they can tell us what it will be like 10 years from now?


8 posted on 08/22/2008 8:27:56 AM PDT by Rammer
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To: Clint Williams
Not to worry,,,,if it's not 'global warming',,,

'climate change' has all the bases covered.....lol

9 posted on 08/22/2008 8:30:29 AM PDT by stockstrader (CHANGE--a euphemism for further dividing our country along racial, social and economic lines)
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To: BooksForTheRight.com
How come I and other posters know about the Earth’s feedback system that leads to equilibrium but these highly-paid “scientists” don’t?

Concepts of negative feedback and stable systems are generally the baliwick of engineers - typically EEs, MEs and AEs. The entire concepts of a performance surface, linear feedback, nonlinear feedback and so forth are remote theory to climitologists while they are everyday issues to engineers.

Every climitologist on Earth should be forced to study Bernard Widrow's elementry adaptive signal processing text.


10 posted on 08/22/2008 8:48:43 AM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: Red Badger

We’re only 8 years into the 21st Century. This is ridiculous.

How about 2008 the coldest so far in the 21st Century


11 posted on 08/22/2008 9:15:58 AM PDT by avalonmistmoon
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To: Smedley

People in the Global Warming Religion do not do much “Adaptive Signal Processing”. They have trouble with facts that do not fit the narrative.


12 posted on 08/22/2008 9:26:46 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Rammer
These pompous fools can’t tell us what the weather will be two weeks from now. What makes them think they can tell us what it will be like 10 years from now?

Man made global warming is indeed the one of the greatest hoaxes of all time. This argument though, is fallacious and makes doubters look silly. It's like saying "You can't even tell me with any certainty whether or not a coin flip will result in heads or tails, so what makes you think that 1000 coin flips will result in about 500 heads and about 500 tails?". The inability to predict short term variations doesn't preclude the ability to see long term trends.

Warmies are wrong because their theories about CO2 and warming are BS, not because weathermen don't always get short term forecasts right. .

13 posted on 08/22/2008 9:28:02 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Minn

Thank you Minn. I think the same thing every time I see that argument. Attack the facts not some straw man. CO2 caused global warming is the biggest hoax seen since the days of the traveling medicine man and rain makers.


14 posted on 08/22/2008 9:40:31 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Clint Williams

global warming bs ping


15 posted on 08/22/2008 9:41:05 AM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: avalonmistmoon
We’re only 8 years into the 21st Century. This is ridiculous.

How about: This is the coldest year since the turn of the century!

16 posted on 08/22/2008 10:04:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Minn

They don’t get long term forecasts right either.


17 posted on 08/22/2008 10:35:38 AM PDT by Rammer
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To: Red Badger

LMAO !


18 posted on 08/22/2008 10:37:05 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: avalonmistmoon
We’re only 8 years into the 21st Century. This is ridiculous.

You stole my thunder! I could've lived with "Coldest Year of this Decade".

"Coldest Year of This Century" is absurd. Kind of like calling golfers (other than Tiger) "athletes".

19 posted on 08/22/2008 10:37:38 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (John McCain is Lucy, McCainiacs are Charlie Brown, and the football is a secure border.)
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To: Clint Williams; Robert A. Cook, PE; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; ..
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

20 posted on 08/22/2008 2:29:46 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: steelyourfaith

I think we’re in for another bad winter too.


21 posted on 08/23/2008 12:45:33 AM PDT by rdl6989 (What isn't above Obama's pay grade?)
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To: Clint Williams
"Global warming" hoax BUMP


22 posted on 08/23/2008 12:57:13 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Red Badger

Unless, if, until, might, could, possibly.............

Doncha just love science these days?!


23 posted on 08/23/2008 1:02:19 AM PDT by djf (Get ready! Buy Cheez Wiz! It goes with anything!)
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