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MSM Chooses Ignoring Obama Lawsuit Eligibity Challenge
Texas Songwriter

Posted on 08/23/2008 10:57:27 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter

Several years ago as the MSM began to fall in love the leftist Republican Arnold Swartznegger they chose to carefully examine the fourteenth amendment regarding Arnolds possible requirement deficit, even going to the point of 'floating a trial balloon' to determine the public attitude toward amending the Constitution to 'force a fit'. It is noted that the idea did not gain any traction to speak of, but there was, and still remains, some interest in this notion.

Now comes an examination of a true contender, someone who has a good chance of being elected, and with serious people asking pertinent questions of eligibility, even going to the length of an Attorney in Pennsylvania who is a long time democrat and previous office holder in that state, bringing a cause of action with sworn expert testimony, with several exhibits and proofs of allegation to prove a fact issue to explain the tort, and the MAINSTREAM MEDIA chooses to ignore this issue, which is of tantamount importance to every American of any political stripe. The small issue of Constitutionality hangs in the balance and the Fourth Estate has clearly decided to pretend this issue does not exist. So, we Americans, may just elect a person with dual or triple loyalties to one of three different countries, and the MAINSTREAM MEDIA chooses to pretend these circumstances do not exist.

The irresponsibility of the MSM continues its march to oblivion and irrelevance, but this time they are taking our Constitution with them. This should not be allowed to stand. If this Constitutional imperative is dismissed by a powerhungry DNC and candidate, what other portion of the Constitution will go next?

I would never vote Obama. But if he was legitimately elected, he would be my President, and I would know him as my President. However if he is illigitimate, we will simply change sides of the isle with the dems who now declare themselves not to be loyal to President Bush because they say he was selected, not elected. I do not agree with them, but the illegal candidacy of Obama will be a 'Cry for Dysunity' for the entirity of his presidency and continue to undermine the idea of America uniting all of its people. It will divide asunder.

If Obama is determined to be a legitimate American citizen without duality of loyalty it will go a long way to unite the citizens of this country, and we all should hope for unity on this issue.

Why the MSM fauned all over an Arnold for president, knowing and resolving in their minds he was not eligible is inexplicable given his known birth nation, and now with a person who may be a foreign national they ignore him. Have they have allowed the can to be kicked so far down the road that they seek to cover not only Obamas deceit but their own malfeasance.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; lawsuit; marine; newsblackout; obama

1 posted on 08/23/2008 10:57:27 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Texas Songwriter

> ... and the MAINSTREAM MEDIA chooses to pretend
> these circumstances do not exist.

And they will continue to do so, until instructed
otherwise by someone working for Her Heinous.


2 posted on 08/23/2008 11:01:52 AM PDT by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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To: Boundless
Now comes an examination of a true contender, someone who has a good chance of being elected

Hill hasn't sung, yet.

3 posted on 08/23/2008 11:10:52 AM PDT by itsthejourney
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To: Texas Songwriter

Good, meaningful post, Texas Songwriter—well done—and a hearty hand salute!

I will remember that neither the potus nor the gubmint is “my country.” My country is much, much more that that, and gubmint/potus is much, much less!

Semper Fidelis
Dick Gaines
~~~~~


4 posted on 08/23/2008 11:17:30 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: Texas Songwriter

and their own willingness to comitt treason.


5 posted on 08/23/2008 11:28:53 AM PDT by Waco (Fusion Smooishin)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Good post and well said.
It must be sad to be part of the MSM. To be so insecure and whipped to not explore the truth about a shallow wanabe potus just speaks “wimp” to me. They are just tools. Where have all the real men gone? And not to be sexist, where are the real women journalists too?


6 posted on 08/23/2008 11:45:39 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Boundless

Until instructed otherwise or until/if the courts rule that Obama is ineligible to be president. Then they might try, but they will have no choice.


7 posted on 08/23/2008 11:49:11 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Texas Songwriter
http://www.datafilehost.com/get.php?file=b82569f7

That will take you to the file of the actual lawsuit, which I suggest everyone send to any many journalists as possible.

8 posted on 08/23/2008 11:54:40 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: bossmechanic

They/some don’t call it (msm) the fourth estate for nothing!


9 posted on 08/23/2008 11:55:26 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: Blood of Tyrants

> ... or until/if the courts rule that Obama is
> ineligible to be president.

What court, under the authority of what law?

There seems to be no enforcement mechanism for the
Constitutional provision.

If no one sues a state for putting an ineligible
candidate on the ballot, and no party declines to
nominate, and the Electoral College passes, and
the House certifies the election results, and the
CJ of SCOTUS swears the person in, they’re in.

That Clinton pal lawyer who filed suit last week
is about to discover that no court has or is willing
to assert jurisdiction on this.

The Constitution evidently relied on candidates
being honorable. It clearly did not anticipate
modern Democrats.


10 posted on 08/23/2008 11:56:52 AM PDT by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Is there a lawsuit challenging Ears’ eligibility?


11 posted on 08/23/2008 11:58:35 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: Texas Songwriter; potlatch; pissant
Hey, what is wrong with SnowBami's latest COLB?



12 posted on 08/23/2008 12:04:46 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Snowbami, the Oreo Bozo, wants special-ed treatment as an untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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The lawsuit is nonsense. BO’s birth cert. has been published with the ID number so anyone can get a copy from HI. The Supreme Court ruled years ago that an American citizen doesn’t forfeit his citizenship just because he becomes a citizen of another country. The rule on his mother’s age only applies to babies born in another country. So there is no question that BO is a natural born American.


13 posted on 08/23/2008 12:15:39 PM PDT by webboy45
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To: Grampa Dave

As a nation we get sicker by the day!

Obama is a one night stand between an atheist and a African.

This is no laughting matter, I hope someone will bring forth the factual COLB.

Obama is playing with real fire, if Americans find out he is not legal the man will have a lot of problems and the secret service will be void.


14 posted on 08/23/2008 12:17:43 PM PDT by Bigmouthbass
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To: Boundless

Actually every state has a provision to file for ineligibility of a candidate. They must be filed in each state and cannot be filed in a federal court(which should have been included in the constitution). However, such a system(state to state) does exist although to my knowledge it has never been used.


15 posted on 08/23/2008 12:28:57 PM PDT by calex59
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To: webboy45
The lawsuit is nonsense. BO’s birth cert. has been published with the ID number so anyone can get a copy from HI. The Supreme Court ruled years ago that an American citizen doesn’t forfeit his citizenship just because he becomes a citizen of another country. The rule on his mother’s age only applies to babies born in another country. So there is no question that BO is a natural born American.

Ok, you say his COLB has been published with the number, where is the copy with the number? Why did he post a phony one if he has a real one? Please, as I said, post the number so we can call Hawaii and check it out as a legitimate COLB, otherwise I think you are just pis**** in the wind here. There is no legitimate COLB from Hawaii for Obama. Not only that there are several other things that tend to make him ineligible for Potus. Read the lawsuit.

As to the Supreme court upholding dual citizenship for Americans that is true, however, Indonesia does not accept dual citizenship, Barracks step father renounced Obama's US citizenship in order to get him declared an Indonesian citizen. Therefore Barry, or his mother, had to reaffirm his American citizenship when he returned to the states. It wasn't, therefore he is a citizen of Indonesia, so the argument goes. Also he lied on his papers when he filed for candidacy, he said his name is Barrack H. Obama, but in reality his name is Barry Soetoro. It was never changed back.

Even if you can submit a valid COLB number(which I really, really doubt)he still faces many eligibilty problems.

16 posted on 08/23/2008 12:36:16 PM PDT by calex59
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To: webboy45

“The lawsuit is nonsense. BO’s birth cert. has been published with the ID number so anyone can get a copy from HI.”

You must be living on another planet. HI laws prevent anyone but Obama from authorizing release of his birth certificate. The published version you mentioned has been proven to as phony as Dan Rathers “fake but accurate” documents.


17 posted on 08/23/2008 12:46:18 PM PDT by hdstmf
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To: hdstmf

Fingers crossed that Hillary brings this up during her keynote.... come on Hillary!!!

I don’t like anything at all about the Clintons, but I would feel a lot better if McCain had a slip up in October that She’d be in office versus BHO...


18 posted on 08/23/2008 1:04:34 PM PDT by tuwood
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To: tuwood

I agree 100% about Hil being far less destructive than BHO should the Dems manage to steal the election. I’m phoning my senators, Hil superdelegates, to stand firm for “our” girl.


19 posted on 08/23/2008 1:09:19 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: webboy45

I just want to see the proof that he was not born in Africa and flown to Hawaii to be “registered”


20 posted on 08/23/2008 1:25:40 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: webboy45
The lawsuit is nonsense. BO’s birth cert. has been published with the ID number so anyone can get a copy from HI. The Supreme Court ruled years ago that an American citizen doesn’t forfeit his citizenship just because he becomes a citizen of another country. The rule on his mother’s age only applies to babies born in another country. So there is no question that BO is a natural born American.

Really?

I assume you have U.S. citizenship??

Would you be able, legally, to travel on an Indonesian Passport???

Hussein's birth cert. has NOT been published, his half sister,s COLB has!!!

21 posted on 08/23/2008 1:28:24 PM PDT by danamco
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To: calex59

GO TO OBMAMACRIMES.com and you will see a link to an actual copy of the lawsuit. The Hawaii document is not Obama’s only problem, there is apparently a birth certificate in Kenya where some of his relatives contend he was actually born, and if documents exist to back that up, then he is toast. I listened to Philip Berg on the radio this morning and he has updated the information apparently today.

http://www.obamacrimes.com/

Philip J. Berg, Esquire stated in his lawsuit that Senator Obama:

1. Is not a natural-born citizen; and/or

2. Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or

3. Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

Berg stated: “I filed this action at this time to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.

Attachments: File Description File size
Complaint for declaratory and injunctive relief 142 Kb
ObamaCrimes Press Release 200820821.pdf Press Release 20080821 Announcing the filing of Obama qualifications Lawsuit 311 Kb
Memorandum in support of temporary restraining order This document contains a complete narrative of the facts. 164 Kb
Plaintiff’s motion for temporary restraining order Plaintiff’s motion for temporary restraining order 108 Kb
Temporary Restraining Order 79 Kb

Last Updated ( Saturday, 23 August 2008 11:29 )

Why the games from his end? I don’t think he’s telling the truth on this either.


22 posted on 08/23/2008 2:11:20 PM PDT by BILL_C (Those who don't understand the lessons of history are bound to repeat them!)
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To: calex59
"Why did he post a phony one if he has a real one?"

Why did he post it - period - unless he knew something was wrong with it and was trying to assert damage control?

He HAD to know this question would come up in a presidential campaign...he HAD to. He figured if he put a "reasonable facsimile" on his website (who does that?) it would forestall all questions relating to his country of origin.

Figured in with his statements, his associations and his beliefs...it has all the makings of a - dare I say it? - a COUP.
23 posted on 08/23/2008 3:40:51 PM PDT by FrankR (Liberalism is Communism by the drink - P.J. O'Roarke)
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To: webboy45

According to a legal researcher who has contacted the American Free Press, U.S.law very clearly states:
‘If only one parent is a U.S. citizen at the time of one’s birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for a minimum of 10 years, five of which must be after the age of 16.’
But, given OHB’s party affiliation, this will remain a non-issue.


24 posted on 08/23/2008 3:50:50 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Texas Songwriter

.What is also indisputably true Is that the COLB that the Obama campaign has proffered for proof of Obama’s natural born citizenship is a document that is devoid of the normal Indications of provenence that one expects to see on an official government document that enables it to be authenticated. It has no birth certificate number, no official State of Hawaii seal, and no official signatures. It looks to be in every way a crude forgery. The question should be, why has the Obama campaign not released indisputable evidence of his natural born citizenship? The WORST that should happen is that he does so, and this issue gets laid to rest. We will have provided a valuable service to the American people in satisfying a question of his constitutional eligibility and can devote our energies to exposing him for the radical crypto-Marxist that he really is. Or we will have shown that a presidential candidate is willing to defraud the American people by proffering an illegally altered government document to enable his election to the highest office in the land. This could possibly lead to felony criminal charges against persons in the Obama campaign. The Obama campaign is amazingly quick to respond to real and imagined slurs. They are suspiciously silent on this. I suspect that they are hoping that it will remain unexamined, and are counting on their in the tank MSM allies to hush it up.

We already know that a corrupt Democrat Congress will not vote to impeach and remove corrupt Democrat presidents from office despite clear evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors. We know that Democrats almost NEVER resign when they have been caught in various forms of political criminality. Should (GOD forbid) Barack Hussein Obama ever take the oath of office, and it is subsequently proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he is NOT natural born, than there will be no legal way to remove him from office. This could (at best) lead to a constitutional crisis and worst a civil war. Not a War Between the States, but an honest to God fight over who controls the government.

This is NOT a subsidiary issue. It is of greater importance constitutionally than Obama’s position on health care, Iraq, the energy policy, or national health care. It is crucial to our standing as a constitutional republic.
We should be insisting the he release the proper documents. We should not be apologetic about upholding the constitution. We already have proof positive as to what an inveterate liar that he has already shown himself to be as seeks to create myths about himself.


25 posted on 08/23/2008 6:45:55 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: webboy45

Hawaii allows late registration so even if the certificate is legitimate it would not preclude born being overseas.

However, the certificate is NOT legitimate. There has been plenty of expert advice to back this up but I’ll stick to something simple. “African” is not a race. I don’t think there’s any way that this would ever have been used on a genuine COLB.


26 posted on 08/23/2008 9:56:16 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: Texas Songwriter

obumpa


27 posted on 08/24/2008 2:32:31 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: gitmo
Is there a lawsuit challenging Ears’ eligibility?

See Post# 22 above.
See also this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2066304/posts
Obama Crimes : Is Obama A Natural Born Citizen? [Berg's Website for Lawsuit: Summary, PDFs, Etc.]

On Thursday Philip Berg petitioned the Federal Court in Philadelphia for a temporary restraining order to prevent the DNC from nominating Obama until the many questions about Obama's birth certificate, dual nationality, etc. get sorted out.

On Friday, a judge denied the request and told Berg to come back after papers had been served to Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission and the other parties involved.

Berg and his allies have been busy serving papers all weekend.

We'll see what happens regarding the lawsuit. But either way, Texas Songwriter is correct that the media are deliberately ignoring Berg's lawsuit.

One of my brothers lives in Washington, DC and knows a guy who works on a business wire service. He told my brother that Thursday evening, Berg's lawsuit was the main topic of conversation at the National Press Club -- they were discussing whether to report the story or not. We know how they decided.

28 posted on 08/24/2008 2:46:41 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: Dajjal
One of my brothers lives in Washington, DC and knows a guy who works on a business wire service. He told my brother that Thursday evening, Berg's lawsuit was the main topic of conversation at the National Press Club -- they were discussing whether to report the story or not. We know how they decided.

You know, that's what mystifies me about the media. It is a very competitive business, yet they all seem to want to go with the pack. If you want to stand out in the crowd, you have to do things nobody else in the crowd is doing.

29 posted on 08/24/2008 3:42:00 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: Texas Songwriter

How did Barry pay for his education? In this country, if a citizen hasn’t got money to pay the tax payers will help him/her attend higher education places. However, if you are a male citizen you are required to register for the draft even if you are severely disabled.

Now, if Barry attended on a foreign passport he would not have had to register for the draft, but he could get no financial aid. So, it is not only his birth certificate, but his draft card also should be provided to prove or disprove his citizenry. He did not serve in the military (nor did Hillary) like Kerry, McCain, Bush, Eisenhower, Kennedy, George Washington. So, he hasn’t got that to help him.

Hillary is exempt because in this country women do not have equal rights.

So, if he got no financial aid for his education, where did he get the money so he could, as he put it in one of his books, sit on the balcony of his dorm room and shout at people on the ground?

If this question is not addressed, the lawsuit filed by one of his own party is actually for naught. So, I guess someone should nominate Vladimir Putin in 2012. He is definitely not a citizen and has not even lived here, but would happily run for president of this now Godless place.


30 posted on 08/26/2008 7:51:17 AM PDT by Rosebudd (Where is Barack's Draft Card?)
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To: Rosebudd
I believe Mrs.Obama stated that she and her husband just recently paid off their student loans. I have heard nothing of Obama securing a scolarship, or affirmative action grant, but I guess it is possible. I do know that student loans were made, and you are correct, we do have a right to look at the application, since you and I gave the loan. I doubt the MSM will ever ask.

Yes, Obama would have to register with the selective services.

Hannity is correct. 2008 is the year the journalism formally died. The only real journalism I read comes from Free Republic. There is a lot of 'brain-storming' that goes on here. Spit-balling, that somehow takes shape towards facts. It is interesting to watch it unfold.

31 posted on 08/26/2008 8:56:56 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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