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How Many Houses Does Joe Biden (including those hidden in Trusts)

Posted on 08/23/2008 5:26:40 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter

In another thread today a Google Earth photograph reveals the Joe Biden Compound has at least 4 houses, swimming pool, tennis courts, and other amenities. A review of his 2005, 2006, and 2007 Income Tax Returns indicate he reports a net worth of about $470,000. It was reported he has no home note, suggesting his home/homes are paid for. So, how does a person who has never made much more than $150,000 per year amass proterty of magnitudes 10 times or more what he reports to the sentate?

So, Mr. Biden, how many homes do you have. You did not include the value of the four homes on your compound in the report to the senate and the IRS. How many homes beyond the four at your compound do you have? It is legitimate to ask of McCain, it is legitimate to ask you.


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1 posted on 08/23/2008 5:26:40 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Texas Songwriter

Any politico knows the Congress is the most corruptable body of individuals in America. Long established FACT. So now, where do they get thier income? Certainly not the paycheck. IMHO, lobbyists and special interet groups provide much of their income...in varying forms.


2 posted on 08/23/2008 5:30:09 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Texas Songwriter

I don’t know, but he says he and his wife put the children to bed every night, then sit at the kitchen table worrying about how to pay the bills.


3 posted on 08/23/2008 5:30:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Texas Songwriter
Expect this to be the lead story on Nightly News with Brian Twistedface Williams.
4 posted on 08/23/2008 5:30:25 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Texas Songwriter

Does he have any old money? Lets not jump to conclusions yet...


5 posted on 08/23/2008 5:32:01 PM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: Texas Songwriter

According to Neil Cavuto this morning on Fox News, the house he lives in is worth $1.3 million. His mother also has a house in the ‘compound’. I bet the others belong to his children.


6 posted on 08/23/2008 5:32:16 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: genericnameallotherstaken

That place isn’t just a house, its a mansion. If he bought it 30 years ago, he still had to have some money then to buy it.


8 posted on 08/23/2008 5:34:16 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: EagleUSA

Hunter Biden, Joe Biden’s son, is a lobbyist.

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“....Delaware senator Joe Biden’s son, R. Hunter Biden, provides another example: In 2003, The New York Times reported, he joined MBNA America Bank, the huge credit card empire, as a management trainee after graduating from Yale Law School. He moved up the ladder, becoming executive vice president, and now is a partner of Oldaker, Biden & Belair, a D.C. lawyer-lobbyist shop. In that capacity during 2003, he got a $100,000 annual retainer from MBNA to advise the company on ‘the Internet and privacy law.’

“As it turns out, MBNA is Senator Biden’s biggest contributor. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Biden raised $147,700 from MBNA employees from 1999 to 2004. MBNA’s ties to the Bidens might seem ironic since the firm is usually viewed as a big Republican campaign fundraiser and was George W. Bush’s sixth-largest contributor during last year’s presidential campaign, with a total of $356,350....”


9 posted on 08/23/2008 5:35:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Texas Songwriter

Does ‘straw owners’ ring a bell?


10 posted on 08/23/2008 5:35:46 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Texas Songwriter

The younger Biden has since left MBNA to establish his own lawyer-and-lobbying firm, but still receives a $100,000 per year consulting fee from the bank, which has since been swallowed by Bank of America. In 2006, Hunter Biden was appointed by President Bush to a five-year term on the Amtrak Reform Board.

Sister: Valerie Biden Owens (PR exec and manager of Biden’s campaigns)

Brother: Francis W. Biden (Director, Office of Congressional, Legislative, and Public Affairs)

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Lobbyist Hunter Biden Is Sued on Paradigm Purchase

R. Hunter Biden, a Washington lobbyist, fraudulently excluded a partner from the purchase of a hedge-fund investment firm, the partner claims in a lawsuit.

Biden and his uncle James Biden squeezed investment consultant Anthony Lotito Jr. out of the 2006 acquisition of New York-based Paradigm Cos., Lotito says in a complaint filed Jan. 5 in New York state court. The Bidens lied to Lotito about their joint offer while negotiating a better deal alone, Lotito’s complaint says. The Bidens deny the claims.


11 posted on 08/23/2008 5:39:29 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: genericnameallotherstaken

Sure! Of course, I can’t ignore my house when reporting assets, either... Apparently good ol’ Joe can!


13 posted on 08/23/2008 5:39:34 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Link to aerial photos of Biden’s house(s).

(Check out whose ads are running on the Web page! LOL!)

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/42190/


14 posted on 08/23/2008 5:41:55 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: Texas Songwriter
May 14, 2003 Robert Hunter Biden, who is a year younger (than his brother, Beau Biden) at 33, is a lawyer with the firm of Oldaker Biden & Belair in Washington. He previously worked in the U.S. Commerce Department during the Clinton administration.
15 posted on 08/23/2008 5:42:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: All
Does he have any old money? Lets not jump to conclusions yet...

I think we should check what he has in the old ice box...lol
16 posted on 08/23/2008 5:42:22 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: genericnameallotherstaken

Mansions are never “not that expensive”.


17 posted on 08/23/2008 5:42:26 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: Texas Songwriter

Biden has less houses than John Kerry. (Remember when the MSM was all over Kerry and his houses? Well I don’t remember it either but it must have happened.)


18 posted on 08/23/2008 5:42:52 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: genericnameallotherstaken

When he bought the house incomes were not as high either. It’s all relative.


19 posted on 08/23/2008 5:43:39 PM PDT by tomh68
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To: genericnameallotherstaken
have none of you ever bought a house over 30 years ago for significantly less than they sell for now, paid them off, and made improvements over the years by adding on?

Why does he only report a net worth of $470,000? If he owns this compound free and clear, his net worth is much larger. I would think that public records exist for property taxes. You would need the location of his property.

His pension is worth much more than $470,000. Ironically, the value of his pension is declining as he continues to work. Congressional pensions are lavish so the pension is worth millions even if its value is declining.

20 posted on 08/23/2008 5:44:01 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Texas Songwriter

How’d he do on his mortgage deal?


21 posted on 08/23/2008 5:46:22 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (when your bot, you're pwn3d)
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To: Texas Songwriter

(Biden ran for President in 1988 but no one remembers anything about it other than him plagiarizing someone’s speech.) “Although he admits to a tendency to ‘bloviate,’ he thinks that an aggressive advocate [for credit card companies and Big banking???] with rough edges [compulsive teeth whitening?] might be just what the party needs right now. ‘Democrats nominated the perfect blow-dried candidates in 2000 and 2004,’ he said, ‘and they couldn’t connect.’” And instead of blow-dried it’s time to try... the hair plugs candidate?

his son, a Beltway lobbyist, was slapped with an ugly and very embarrassing lawsuit involving the kind of hedge-fund investment firm his dad spends so much time dealing with to the exclusion of real issues that plague real Americans. “R. Hunter Biden, a Washington lobbyist and son of U.S. presidential hopeful Senator Joseph Biden, fraudulently excluded a partner from the purchase of a hedge-fund investment firm, the partner claims in a lawsuit. Biden and his uncle James Biden squeezed investment consultant Anthony Lotito Jr. out of the 2006 acquisition of New York-based Paradigm Cos., Lotito says in a complaint filed Jan. 5 in New York state court. The Bidens lied to Lotito about their joint offer while negotiating a better deal alone,

Hunter Biden, 36, founder and partner of Washington-based lobbying firm Oldaker, Biden & Belair LLP, stepped down this month from daily oversight of Paradigm Global Advisors LLC, a unit of Paradigm Cos. that manages investments in hedge funds. He became the firm’s chairman and remains a lobbyist, an unusual dual role as scrutiny of the hedge-fund industry has increased.”

http://tinyurl.com/2bodjf


22 posted on 08/23/2008 5:47:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Texas Songwriter

I have four houses in a trust, but I didn’t realize I was hiding them.


23 posted on 08/23/2008 5:48:07 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Texas Songwriter

Are you just now finding out that we have 450+ economic genius’s in congress. They are all pulling this very quiet maneuver. Do you know why Hassett (sp?) screamed the loudest when the FBI raided Jefferson’s office? Because the guilty dog always barks first and the loudest. Haystack is so dirty 40 tons of bleach would not clean him up. BY the way when does Jefferson get turned free?


24 posted on 08/23/2008 5:49:27 PM PDT by Tannerone (FEED ALL TERRORIST LIVE AND OTHERWISE TO STARVED HOGS)
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To: kcvl
MBNA America is mostly an asset picked up at distress upon the collapse of MBNA. MBNA was, itself, essentially a credit card processing center set up in Delaware by M Bank of Texas.

M Bank went under in the mid 1970s.

Throughout its various changes of ownership the credit card operation has continued to provide substantial employment to the Delaware workforce.

MBNA went under by overloading itself with uncollectible debt extended through credit cards to people who had no intention of paying the money back.

Joe Biden has to have some connection to these people or he couldn't live in Delaware.

25 posted on 08/23/2008 5:51:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tannerone

When was Jefferson not free?


26 posted on 08/23/2008 5:52:04 PM PDT by tomh68
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To: Texas Songwriter

We’ve all heard about ‘Dead Pools’...Well, with Biden being the compulsive prevaricator that he is...Perhaps we should have a ‘Lie Pool’...and bet on how long he can go, before he gets caught in a lie, what the lie will be about, and how fantabulous of a lie it is, on a scale of 1 to 10.

Heck we could even have a good debate over what ranking any particular lie would rate on the scale.

>BoD

We could promote it as the: ‘When Will Biden Lie? Pool’.

Or have 3 seperate Pools:

‘What will Bidens First Lie Be?’

and:

‘How Big a Lie Will Bidens First Lie Be?’


27 posted on 08/23/2008 5:52:58 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: Tannerone
The reason Hastert was upset was he FBI did not have his permission to conduct the raid.

The Courts have subsequently ruled that Constitutional standards were violated. On the other hand they have not yet agreed with me that the agents involved should be handed over for prosecution for undertaking an armed rebellion against the Congress of the United States (the penalty for that, of course, is death).

But, alas, we digress.

Hastert should have been much more vigorous in pursuing action against the agents ~ there are entirely too many slugs over in the FBI to let them think they can get away with this stuff.

Now, was Hastert dirty? Bring the evidence.

29 posted on 08/23/2008 5:54:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Texas Songwriter

About a year ago, poor Elizabeth Edwards when asked about their 10,000 sq. ft. mansion said that they saved money by using frequent flyer miles.


30 posted on 08/23/2008 5:58:07 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Jim Robinson
he and his wife put the children to bed every night, then sit at the kitchen table worrying about how to pay the bills

You gotta be kidding? if you're not, then Biden is more out of touch with the "average" citizen then Zero (0) is.

31 posted on 08/23/2008 6:01:30 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Texas Songwriter

BTW, that’s partly the reason why McCain didn’t answer the question. His ranch in AZ has several small houses on it. So it depends on how it was counted.


32 posted on 08/23/2008 6:03:48 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: kcvl
The Bidens deny the claims.

Ohhhh, then it's all okay. We'll see

33 posted on 08/23/2008 6:04:52 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Malesherbes

I’ll bet they clipped coupons too.


34 posted on 08/23/2008 6:05:06 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: genericnameallotherstaken

Sorry, that’s not going to fly, that compound’s real estate is worth a fortune, maybe Joe’s second wife is loaded, just like McCain’s. Also, after 36 years in the senate I’ll bet that Joe’s senate pension is worth $6 - 7 million dollars easy.


35 posted on 08/23/2008 6:06:15 PM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some More)
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To: kcvl

“Hunter Biden was appointed by President Bush to a five-year term on the Amtrak Reform Board.”

Because daddy spent all those lonely nights riding the rails.

Seriously, how do all these men in their early thirties get the great jobs if it isn’t for Daddy?


36 posted on 08/23/2008 6:07:44 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: TribalPrincess2U

That’s what he said in his speech this morning. I think he was trying to be one of us ordinary people.


37 posted on 08/23/2008 6:09:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: LibFreeOrDie
"Check out whose ads are running on the Web page! LOL!"

I just downloaded some drivers, and saw the same thing on a driver page.

38 posted on 08/23/2008 6:11:38 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Malesherbes
they saved money by using frequent flyer miles

As John chartered a private jet to fly his mistress and baby to a hideout (and I think Elizabeth knew about that too).

John Edwards...

"Of course, I still love you. Don't worry, we'll get through this."

As John Edwards political associates funneled money for her living arrangements and numerous private jet trips to visit 'love lips'.

39 posted on 08/23/2008 6:13:49 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Texas Songwriter
So, Mr. Biden, how many homes do you have.

Obama just p!ssed away half of his potential attacks on McCain.

40 posted on 08/23/2008 6:16:24 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Hugin
BTW, that’s partly the reason why McCain didn’t answer the question. His ranch in AZ has several small houses on it. So it depends on how it was counted.

I agree with you, and nearly every freeper who posted on this thread. The problem is, the question was put to McCain as a 'gotcha' question, knowing that the homes of Cindy/John were held mostly in her trusts and McCain, to be thoughtful and accurate would have to actually look at the properties and in what shelter vehicle they were held. So rather than say something which could later be proven to be untrue (dems would characterize as lying) when he actually did not know the status of Title.

So my question to Joe, is, "How many homes (houses) do you have or hold in trust, or have quitclaimed away over the past, say 15 years. in order to keep the public from knowing the truth. How many land trusts do are you, or your wife, or your children hold to prevent prying eyes from knowing the truth of ownership (control) Remember Joe, we are 'workin' folk' out here, and you have been labeled by none less than Barak Hussein Obama Jr. to be the conciounce of the working man in the senate.

41 posted on 08/23/2008 6:17:29 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: BreezyDog

ah.....he claims to have working class parents so we can assume he made his money the usual democrat way?


42 posted on 08/23/2008 6:17:38 PM PDT by tioga (so it's Obama Bin Biden?)
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To: Texas Songwriter

I searched Delaware’s public online database of deeds. Found 21 deed transfers involving the Bidens (Sr., Jr., III) since 1961.

Only a few newer ones have the details online. You have to pay to get a printout of the ones not online.

Here’s the only one having $$$ details online for the Barley Mill address (the area shown in the aerial photos):

http://www.nccde.org/parcelview/parceldetails.aspx?DeedBook=2071&DeedPage=107

Here’s a map outlining the boundaries of the parcel:

http://dmz-arcims02.nccde.org/NCCPortal/index.jsp?ActiveLayer=2&Query=LUEDIT.PARCEL_POLYGON.PRCLID=’0702900052’&QueryZoom=Yes


43 posted on 08/23/2008 6:18:27 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: LibFreeOrDie

I think some enterprizing journalist for FOX or the Washington Times might ear his bones on this very question. Obama made it an issue, therefore it must be a legitimate question.


44 posted on 08/23/2008 6:21:15 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: genericnameallotherstaken
It’s not in McCain’s records of disclosure either.

I thought that was because the properties are Cindy's...not John's, right?

45 posted on 08/23/2008 6:22:03 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Brian Twistedface Williams.

I think BW had plastic surgery to give that look to his eyebrows so he always looks concerned.

46 posted on 08/23/2008 6:23:41 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: EagleUSA
At least, Cindy had enough money to buy her own homes.

And let us not forget, while Obama 'dares to compare'. . .how many homes did McCain own when he was Obama's age?

How many homes might Obama own; by the time he is the age of McCain. . .I would bet; he will own more; that he will be deeply embedded in the most grandiose of living; and his half-brother will stil be living in a box or a 'hut'. . .a shack; WHATEVER. . .as will many in America, by the time Obama is finished creating 'Change' for America.

47 posted on 08/23/2008 6:24:20 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Don’t forget his first wife and child were killed in a traffic accident many years ago. I’m sure the insurance money made it’s way toward the home purchase.
The actual value of the home compound is significant. Delaware doesn’t reassess home values and the value probably has been static for quite a few years.


48 posted on 08/23/2008 6:29:35 PM PDT by BS69 (Check the math.)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Am sure that Biden’s financial worth is singnificantly higher. . .where he put’s it; how he hides it. . .whose name he hides it under; don’t know; but this figure totally unrealistic for a pro like Biden. NO way. . .


49 posted on 08/23/2008 6:31:47 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Total Area (sq. ft.): 6850
# Rooms: 10

I wonder who lives in the second home on his property?


50 posted on 08/23/2008 6:36:22 PM PDT by kcvl
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