Skip to comments.Born in the U.S.A.The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Posted on 08/24/2008 7:40:05 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."
We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
(Excerpt) Read more at factcheck.org ...
“This issue is more important than any other aspect of this campaign. The people trying to whitewash this apparent massive fraud, should be more concerned about the importance of our laws, and the future of America in that regard. Every candidate should be made to PROVE THEIR BIRTHRIGHT AND CITIZENSHIP and have it scrutinized - just like every US citizen has to do when they sign up for Social Security or other government program....”
I could not have put it better.
Then again, with the RATs they are nothing if not FRAUDULENT. If they really were open and honest about their intentions, they would be run out of the country in a New York minute.
Location of birth - Honolulu
Then why do they have so many posts correcting things that Obama said, including his recent ad that attacks McCain? And why did Dick Cheney use the site in his own defense?
Easy, plausible deniability. By pretending to be fair and balanced they don't have to be either and can actually form public opinion by supporting the biggest lies of their candidate....
Who it just so happens help found the group that provides all their funding along with an admitted terrorist bomber who has worked all of his life to overthrow this country's government by any means necessary including murder and terror....
In the most SERIOUS business of electing the leader of the Free World, and the POTUS, there are MILLIONS of people involved. To find the one fish that does Obama in requires hordes of people following as many threads as can be found to properly vet a candidate by his opposition. IF Obama is unqualified, whether it be a substance issue (foreign policy, abortion, taxes) or other issue (COLB, associations, etc), it may very well be the combined injuries to Obama that helps put McCain on top. I always bear in mind the notion of [political] "death from a thousand cuts".
Somethings rotten in Denmark. Reckon he’s been there too.
This is, as predicted, straight out of the
Kerry SF180 playbook:
Just show the document to In-The-Tank media pals,
and not the general public.
Annenberg’s photography is even worse than the previous
junk. And the analysis of the previous has educated BHO’s
people, who have now had lots of time to build a better forgery.
This won’t get settled unless addressed in court, or
Hillary decides to use it as a weapon.
Could be that one warehouse detention facility in Denver may be a bit small the next few dys....
This picture answers many of the questions about the original "proof", namely the lack of a Certificate Number and the raised seal. As a SWAG, the Certificate Number consists of a hospital id, the date, and a sequence number. Obviously the first image was edited by Photoshop to remove the certificate number, at the very least.
This seems to suggest that the state of Hawaii thinks he was born there. However "151" may mean "Born at Home", instead of a hospital, and 4 days is plenty of time to move him from Kenya (say) to the US after birth. This also does not answer questions about what his stay in Indonesia, and the fact that he might actually be a naturalized Indonesian citizen.
Read my other posts. I don’t disagree.
Obama;The Flatulence of One Thousand Black Dogs After Eating Boiled Eggs Be Upon Him
The point is that Obama was never on any board associated with factcheck.org
Plausible deniability works for each and every website and organization on the planet. Prove that he runs factcheck.
“If Obama is lying I believe Bill & Hillary will be all over this during the convention.”
I am surprised that she would not have used this before so that she could easily gain the nomination beforehand.”
“In Kenya, where Obama’s father is from, a second birth certificate for Obama was issued and registered with Kenya’s government. “
McCain doesn’t need Factcheck to cover or defend his record, Obama does....
Agreed. Let him run and be destroyed at the polls.
Obama losing this election badly will send a very strong message.
Having "The Chosen One" disqualified would martyr him to millions who would never accept his disqualification as "fair." It's the kind of thing that could trigger race riots.
The birth certificate issue is a mountain of distraction for nothing.
It is always important to be truthful.
“It is always important to be truthful.”
Are there any political fact checking websites that are legit. as far as dissecting information that is being floated? I looked at Politichek but didn’t like it. Since this came out about factcheck.org I was wondering if there was one that wasn’t biased. I googled but didn’t find anything. Is there anyone who uses one that they like?
The state of Hawaii apparently has determined he was born in Hawaii, to a mother who was an American citizen.
Unless the state of Hawaii is compelled to reverse its position through a legal proceeding, the matter is moot.
Birth records are not a federal matter and I can't see any federal court allowing a challenge to a birth certificate lawfully issued by a state.
So? FACTCHECK.org, The Annenberg Foundation and George Soros,etal are ALL ON BOARD FOR OBAMA..now aren’t they?
Where bho was born is important, but there are many other reasons I could never cast my vote for him
Proven fake by more than one source
2.) Sketchy childhood
We know some details - Lots of gaps
3.) College thesis has vanished
Was it anything like Micheles?
4.) Overseas travel
5.) Law records
What cases did he represent?
6.) Senate records disappeared
What was he trying to hide?
Rev Wright, Ayers, Michele etc.
8.) Senate voting record
That speaks for itself
10.) Proven liar
11.) Office of Presidency is above his paygrade
12.) I’m still clinging to guns and religion
This is a bigger issue due to the total unreliability of the Media including FactCheck.org to do the job of vetting a Presidential candidate that has lied and obscured his history. This is a job for the USDOJ now that the question has remained unanswered by the seeker of the office.
I am glad that a lawsuit has been filed and hope it will provide the answer to this question before the election!
Pissant, the author of this piece, Jessica Henig, is the daughter of Robin Marantz Henig, who writes for the NY Times and WaPo. A fine science writer but very much a liberal.
There is evidence that the apple has not fallen far from the tree.
Here is more evidence...
I added the keyword CertifiGate. Also, this is about the 3rd time this article has been posted (with the same title).
Exactly. There's arguments of much more substance to be made against Obama.
What is also indisputably true Is that the COLB that the Obama campaign has proffered for proof of Obamas natural born citizenship is a document that is devoid of the normal Indications of provenence that one expects to see on an official government document that enables it to be authenticated. It has no birth certificate number, no official State of Hawaii seal, and no official signatures. It looks to be in every way a crude forgery. The question should be, why has the Obama campaign not released indisputable evidence of his natural born citizenship? The WORST that should happen is that he does so, and this issue gets laid to rest. We will have provided a valuable service to the American people in satisfying a question of his constitutional eligibility and can devote our energies to exposing him for the radical crypto-Marxist that he really is. Or we will have shown that a presidential candidate is willing to defraud the American people by proffering an illegally altered government document to enable his election to the highest office in the land. This could possibly lead to felony criminal charges against persons in the Obama campaign. The Obama campaign is amazingly quick to respond to real and imagined slurs. They are suspiciously silent on this. I suspect that they are hoping that it will remain unexamined, and are counting on their in the tank MSM allies to hush it up.
We already know that a corrupt Democrat Congress will not vote to impeach and remove corrupt Democrat presidents from office despite clear evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors. We know that Democrats almost NEVER resign when they have been caught in various forms of political criminality. Should (GOD forbid) Barack Hussein Obama ever take the oath of office, and it is subsequently proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he is NOT natural born, than there will be no legal way to remove him from office. This could (at best) lead to a constitutional crisis and worst a civil war. Not a War Between the States, but an honest to God fight over who controls the government.
This is NOT a subsidiary issue. It is of greater importance constitutionally than Obamas position on health care, Iraq, the energy policy, or national health care. It is crucial to our standing as a constitutional republic.
We should be insisting the he release the proper documents. We should not be apologetic about upholding the constitution. We already have proof positive as to what an inveterate liar that he has already shown himself to be as seeks to create myths about himself.
In Kenya, where Obamas father is from, a second birth certificate for Obama was issued and registered with Kenyas government.
That means nothing because Kenyan law does not override US law.
And if Obama pulled any funny business with his birth certificate he would be in serious trouble for falsifying a document.
Impeachment and banished for US Senate.
Maybe prison time?
We must continue in our great adventure.
FactCheck has a good case for being obfuscating. They have cropped out any of the evidence that shows their paper COLB is bogus.
Why aren't you writing posts about the "other issues?"
While you're pondering that answer, why did FactCheck say, in its Aug 26 update to this article, dated Aug 21, that "they did not learn anything about the 'security paper' that COLBs are printed on," when they were allegedly fondling OBama's real COLB six days earlier?
“Why aren’t you writing posts about the “other issues?””
Speaking without reference can make you look silly. It doesn’t take long to check a profile.
What the heck are you talking about?
“What the heck are you talking about?”
You asked me why I am not writing posts about other issues. I find it a bit funny that I am the one being accused of being a noobie and a troll, yet I am the only one who seems to know how to click on a screen name and look at the submitted articles.