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Ukrainian President's Office: Russia preparing to revenge in Ukraine
UNIAN.NET ^ | 21.08.2008

Posted on 08/24/2008 12:44:40 PM PDT by lizol

President's Office: Russia preparing to revenge in Ukraine

The Presidential Secretariat blames Russia for its attempts to stir up activities of anti-Ukrainian forces in Ukraine.

This is said in the comments of President’s deputy chief of staff Andriy Kyslynskiy, publicized by the President’s press-office.

A.Kyslynskiy noted that Russian political circles have been actively trying to revive the scales of interference into eleciton campaigns unmatched since the year 2004.

“Today Russian political circles are creating an organzational basis for a revenge of political forces and ideas that lost four years ago. The same took place in 2004, when a so-called Russian Club was operating in Ukraine and was a source of anti-Ukrainian statements. It also organized numerous provocations against presidential candidate Victor Yushchenko.

On September 4-6, they plan to hold a measure that is due to become a kind of defile of anti-Ukrainian figures and positions during September 4-6.

“Ukraine-Russia: Problem Pages of Common History” conference is being organized by a so-called Humanitarian Ukrainian-Russian Council, 2000 and Izvestiya newspapers, at the expense of a Russian Federation State Program of Assistance to Compatriots Abroad. There is no secret that this program is directly connected with the RF Foreign Reconnaissance Service”, A.Kyslynskiy claimed.

In line with working documents of the conference, it is planned to discuss rather provocative topics: estimation of “hunger in USSR”, “revision of results of the World War II”, “problem issues of teaching common Ukrainian-Russian history in educational establishments”.

“Considering the systematic character of acitvities of the Russian circles supporting the “fifth column” in Ukraine, this conference is a challenge to all national-democratic forces”, A.Kyslynskiy claimed.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; russia; ukraine

1 posted on 08/24/2008 12:44:40 PM PDT by lizol
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2 posted on 08/24/2008 12:46:34 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Poles know exactly how all of this goes. We saw it in 1939 with Danzig and the Polish Corridor, only this time it’s Sevastopol and Crimea.


3 posted on 08/24/2008 12:47:09 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: dfwgator
There's a large Orthodox Russian speaking population in Ukraine's east. The west is largely Catholic and Ukrainian speaking. So there's a linguistic and religious divide Moscow hopes to leverage to keep Ukraine out of NATO.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 08/24/2008 12:54:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: lizol; All
Russian Bear Fishing
5 posted on 08/24/2008 1:11:20 PM PDT by musicman
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To: lizol

The Ukraine in NATO now!!!! This is a country of 50 million wanting to be free of the yoke of the Russian way. Let’s support them totally.


6 posted on 08/24/2008 1:20:33 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: musicman

Russia just wants the USSR back!


7 posted on 08/24/2008 1:35:43 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary

I agree with your post AND your tagline!!


8 posted on 08/24/2008 1:38:23 PM PDT by musicman
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To: lizol

Correct me if I’m wrong please.

From what I gather, while Russia had the soviet Union going for them, they sent a whole lot of “Russians” to live in these satellite “states” like Ukraine and Georgia.
Now that these states are once again independent they still have enclaves or (counties) with very large “Russian” populations Russia feels responsible to protect?
So Russia is using this to invade an independent state and impose its will?
Maybe I’m wrong. Please tell me?


9 posted on 08/24/2008 1:41:00 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: goldstategop
Ukrainians are not Catholic; they are Eastern Orthodox and were baptized by the Byzantines when the Russians were still living in wooden huts.

It is true that Stalin "seeded" western Ukraine with Russians, but they are not Russian anymore. Today, 8/24 is the anniversary of partition from Russia in 1991.

Ukrainians are Ukrainian. They have recovered their religion (spassibo bolshoi Svetoi Mikhail) and their national identity. The average Ukrainian is doing very much better economicaly, socially, and has more opportunity than any Russian who is not a pal of Vladimir Putin's.

They want nothing to do with Russians or Russia.

11 posted on 08/24/2008 1:46:36 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: musicman

Thank you. Good thing I’M not in control. Russia would only be a memory, LOL.


12 posted on 08/24/2008 2:01:14 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: F15Eagle

It did the same with me when I first saw it.


13 posted on 08/24/2008 2:58:21 PM PDT by musicman
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To: lizol

Not many people are aware that the Ukraine had an active nationalist guerrilla movement against the Soviets that continued for several years after World War 2.
These guerrillas, after fighting the Germans, turned on the Red Army. It was Ukrainian guerrillas that ambushed the Commander in Chief of the 1st Ukrainian Front General Vatutin in 1944 causing his death. A brave people indeed


14 posted on 08/24/2008 4:30:26 PM PDT by Larry381 (Stop poking fun at Obama's bitter, angry black nationalist wife Michelle)
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Not many people are aware that the Ukraine had an active nationalist guerrilla movement against the Soviets that continued for several years after World War 2.

I hope you aren't referring to the UPA. They hated Poles even more than the Soviets.

15 posted on 08/24/2008 4:32:25 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: lizol
Why's Russia reverting to being thuggish mouth-breathers?

What's happening?

16 posted on 08/24/2008 4:34:33 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ
What's happening?

They have been unmasked. Never changed. Just ask all those Western Investors that got raped in Russia. Right now Oil Production in Russia has been falling for quite a few months. The Russian Siloviki (Old KGB drunks) make their money from Oil production. Since oil production is falling and western investment is falling and birth rates are falling, only choice for Siloviki to continue being treated as Czars is medieval conquer and conquest.

17 posted on 08/24/2008 6:14:09 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
The Russian Siloviki (Old KGB drunks) make their money from Oil production. Since oil production is falling and western investment is falling and birth rates are falling, only choice for Siloviki to continue being treated as Czars is medieval conquer and conquest.

You're got the motivation for Siloviki support down pat. Good analysis.

18 posted on 08/25/2008 10:46:56 AM PDT by GOPJ
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