Skip to comments.Here's the truth about Obama birth certificate
Posted on 08/25/2008 9:42:31 AM PDT by pissant
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There’s nothing illegal about posting a fake online.
If the Secret Service hasn’t vetted this, there’s another problem.
Yep. Now that it’s too big to ignore, they’ll ridicule and deny.
Soon they’ll be telling us they broke the story.
Creating the fake to start with, is however, quite illegal.
I was at Barnes and Noble on Sat evening and thumbed thru the Corsi book. This is a well written book and is a mine field of information.
I hope that we learn more about his oversea’s connections and the money laundering that has taken place and is taking place with his cousin Raila Odinga. Alledgedly Raila according to Corsi has received over 1,000,000 from a group refered to as Friends of BO...... Hmmm what does BO stand for?
Right from the horse's mouth. Interesting that only the Anneberg people have seen this. Why not just make it available to anyone whose interested?
Why isn't Obama's birth record available under the freedom of information act? I have read that it is sealed because of an adoption. If that is true, Obama should not be allowed to run for president, because he can not prove his eligability. Obama can get the record unsealed, why doesn't he? What is he hiding? It is obvious, he is hiding SOMETHING!
I remain skeptical, and I still suspect that Marxist Obama might just be an illegal alien.
We need some true detective work here.
Perhaps Hillary Rodham is looking into this...
Supposedly the information held at UofI will be released tomorrow (Tuesday 8/26). (AP report, link only)
I dont think birth certs are the kind of thing you can get under FOIA. These laws are designed to allow citizens to see the workings of government, not the details of private lives that happen to be on file with the govt.
You see post 5?
>>>Raila according to Corsi has received over 1,000,000 from a group refered to as Friends of BO<<<
it’s really sad that Annenberg money has ended up in the control of people who are trying to overthrow the US government. Annenberg was a friend of Reagan - he must be rolling over in his grave.
Weren’t B. Hussein and “Bomber” Ayers on the board of the Annenberg Foundation?
Well, he’s now made it to the covention w/the courts/msm not stopping him. Once into the National Presidential Palace he’ll be totally immune from worry over any of this.
We get what we deserve.
Maybe if we zoom in really close we'll find a disclaimer in 1/100 point type that says something like "Shown for illustration purposes only". Something like the frozen prepared food section at the grocery store. You know, the yummy picture with giant and varied pieces of vegetables and the disclaimer: "Suggested Serving".
You must produce a COLB to the FBI for a security clearance.
He will be checked from his original origins, every mistake he has ever made will be well documented.
I had the same thing done to me back in the sixties.
When I was cleared by the Atomic Energy Commission to access classified Info.
Obama will NOT Be allowed to be near the nuclear codes I pray to God.
And you should be extremely worried.
What you say sounds true. It does become a big issue though, in this circumstance. Don’t you think it’s odd that his birth certificate is sealed because of his adoption. It’s not like he was put up for adoption as a baby and transferred to a new family. His mother was still his mother and she was with him.
Im getting tired of the kabuki dance around this issue.
1. What are the documents acceptable in each of the 50 states to be put on their ballot for POTUS in that state?
2. How many of the 50 states have received and accepted such documentation from BO?
I don’t know...that’s why I’m asking.
I don't know, it's a question for the lawyers to answer. Reading their posts, I got the impression that it is routine to seal the original birth cert if a child is adopted and replace it with a new "original" showing the adoptive parent's name.
Regardless, Bambi makes reference to the birth cert being in his possession in one of his books. He needs to release it; until he does, the only conclusion is that he is hiding something.
Why do we need intermediaries like FactCheck that have allegedly actually touched and seen the document to provide us with assurances. The Obama campaign should hold a news conference and present the document for all to see. It would stop the speculation and provide far more credibility than an Annenberg organization that has had connections with Obama.
Yes. I’ve seen that before as well. Lotsa well to do expats in Kenya, huh?
Obama holds a US passport, which does require proof of citizenship.
Tell that to Mr. Ryan who was forced to open up his divorce decree by order of a court when running for Illinois senate. Never mind, we Republicans have to play by different rules. I do believe that should of been left “private”.
Yeah, some fake birth certificate. Lets suppose his mom and dad were not married. She then marries this guy from Indonesia and he adopts little Barack as his child. Barack is now Indonesian, how does he become Barry Obama born in the USA ? Hey, B.O. You claim you’re a citizen, But that may be a crock.
No it des not.
No it does not.
And the Constitutional eligibility of a candidate for President has nothing to do with the "workings of Government"?
Elected officials, such as Congressmen and the President/VP, do not need to undergo security clearance investigations. They have access to whatever they ask to see, or whatever they need to do their jobs, which they alone determine.
If he's elected, he will have access to the "codes", at least to the point of being able to authenticate a "Release" order.
Scary. Remember the large number of White House staffers that were NEVER cleared in the entire 8 years of the Clintons? Something like 1/3 wasn’t it?
My daughter has had high level security clearance. They checked her pretty closely way back. But I worry that PC will prevail anytime a Lefty is involved.
Once elected, as long as he meets the Constitutional requirements Obama can’t be refused the office because he failed a routine security clearance investigation. At least that’s what I would guess.
You are joking, right? Do you honestly believe that you do not have to furnish proof of citizenship in order to obtain a US passport?
That’s why I think O’Bammy is probably a legit citizen.
The Clinton Investigative Corps would have covered this early in the primary season.
Very unlikely Hillary would not have used it as she fell behind.
I just sent this (not really expecting an answer):
Subject: PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE QUALIFICATION PROCEDURES
Dear Secretary Bowen,
I was looking at your document listing the PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE QUALIFICATION PROCEDURES (dempres_2008.pdf) on the State of California web site.
I find these requirements listed:
The candidate must be:
A. A natural-born citizen of the United States,
B. At least 35 years of age, and
C. A resident of the United States at least 14 years.
On the February 2008 primary ballot one of the candidates was Sen. Barack Obama. He was running for President.
So, he must have met the requirements to have been put on the ballot.
What documentation was submitted to the State of California that was deemed acceptable to meet the requirements listed?
Where is that documentation available for review by the people of California?
You do not need a birth certificate to obtain a U.S. Passport.
I sure did, how else do you prove citizenship?
Good letter. It will likely find the round file in CA
There are two ways to obtain a U.S. Passport without a birth certificate.
1) A “Statement of No Record” and a DS10A signed by an older blood relative suffices.
2) By renewing his mothers passport as a family passport.
Wouldn't Obama have already had that as a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee or the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs? Obama is members of both, and it would seem that both deal with classified information.
Someone could probably get an answer from their senator as to committee membership requirements if they are a constituent of one of the members.
Here's the list: Senate Committee on Foreign Relations members *pops*.
“mine field of information”
LMAO! Information that will kill you! I’m sure you meant “gold mine”.
Reminds me of a guy who used to say “bald headed lie”.
There is degrees of security clearance.
But, you may well be correct!!
I am not certian the Senate Foreign Relations Committee or the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs would require a highly classified clearance such as the president must have but, surely his background has been vetted for these committees.
What worries me is fakes we have seen in the past!
We know it is possible to run fake passports past the USA,
I agree it is highly unlikely he would not have been vetted after all he has been looking at.
Not that I put a lot of stock in this arguement, but a passport requires you to prove you are a citizen, not a NATURAl BORN citizen as the Constitution requires for a presidential run
California Arnold is a citizen, but would not be eligible to run for president as he is a naturalized citizen.
Not so fast Calpernia. You are playing loose and fast with the facts. First, I did not say that you could not obtain a passport without a birth certificate. I said you must provide proof of citizenship.
Please note that the Statement of No Record must be "issued by the State with your name, date of birth, which years were searched for a birth record and that there is no birth certificate on file for you." AND as many of the following as possible: Baptismal certificate, Hospital birth certificate, Census record, Early school record, Family bible record, Doctor's record of post-natal care,
NOTES: These documents must be early public records showing the date and place of birth, preferably created within the first five years of your life. You may also submit an Affidavit of Birth, form DS-10, from an older blood relative, i.e., a parent, aunt, uncle, sibling, who has personal knowledge of your birth. It must be notarized or have the seal and signature of the acceptance agent.
If you were born abroad AND do not have a Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certificate of Birth on file, you will need:
If you claim citizenship through birth abroad to one U.S. citizen parent:
Foreign birth certificate, Proof of citizenship of your U.S. citizen parent, AND An affidavit of your U.S. citizen parent showing all periods and places of residence or physical presence in the United States and abroad before your birth.
FYI: I am a retired Foreign Service Officer who has on occasion issued some passports overseas. Personally, my wife is a naturalized citizen and my daughter was born overseas. You make it sound very simple to get a US passport, which is, ipso facto, proof of citizenship. It is much more diffcult without a birth certificate as you can plainly see.
>>>but a passport requires you to prove you are a citizen
No it does not. A birth certificate is not needed to obtain a U.S. Passport.
You forget he could have renewed his family passport.
May not be, but other forms of ID are needed, driver’s license, social security number, a previous passport.
And, as I said above, just proving citizenship does not qualify you for the presidency - you need to be a natural born citizen, so the whole issue is moot anyway
We’ve been talking about this for weeks now. I recall on post that gave the story about the serial number.
Obama’s is apparently:
151 1961 010641.
I think this means that he was born in 1961, and he’s the 10641st person born that year?
Does that sound like a lot of births for Hawaii in 1961?
As a child, he would have traveled on his mom’s family passport. Keeping that renewed would have given him his current passport.
I’m very familiar with the differences in the citizenship status. The loop holes also exist to obtaining passports without proof of citizenship. That was my point.
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