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Fla. lawmakers: Elderly resisting Obama [State Rep Geller on old Jews-almost a mob mentality]
JTA ^ | 08/26/2008

Posted on 08/26/2008 6:03:47 PM PDT by SJackson

Barack Obama has problems with Jewish seniors in Florida, say two Democratic lawmakers there.

Florida state Sen. Nan Rich told JTA that Obama surrogates have been “shocked” by the hostility they have encountered at condominiums in her area aimed at their candidate.

Steve Geller, who serves as the Democratic minority leader in the Florida state Senate and represents parts of Broward County, said he was nearly chased out of the "condos" -- shorthand for retirement communities -- when he said he backed Obama.

"I've noticed almost a mob mentality," Geller said. "I can change people's minds in a group of five or 10. When there's 300 people in the room, they feed off each other and don't want really to listen to us.”

Both lawmakers made their remarks Monday in Denver following a panel discussion on the Jewish vote held in conjunction with the Democratic convention.

U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) expressed confidence that Obama would do well with Jewish voters in the end, but needed to spend more time in the Sunshine State. She said more face-to-face encounters with Obama are needed.

"He needs to come down and have bagels and cream cheese in the condos and he will be fine," Wasserman Schultz said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: elderly; fl2008; jewishvote; obama; seniorsvote; swingvote
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1 posted on 08/26/2008 6:03:47 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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I guess I'm naive, but I never knew the parties had formal meetings at their conventions about Jewish voters.

2 posted on 08/26/2008 6:05:00 PM PDT by SJackson (as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station, Michelle O)
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To: SJackson
"I've noticed almost a mob mentality,"...almost like when blacks vote for 'rats by 9 to 1 margins......
3 posted on 08/26/2008 6:11:13 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: SJackson
"He needs to come down and have bagels and cream cheese in the condos and he will be fine," Wasserman Schultz said.

They may be mighty surprised in November. Will Florida even be close this time?

4 posted on 08/26/2008 6:12:03 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Joe Brower; ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Norman Bates; ..

Barack Obama is having unexpected problems in Florida.


5 posted on 08/26/2008 6:13:44 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: SJackson

Jews DON’T like a black/Arab/opportunist, with a middle name of Hussein, who coddles Muslims?

Whodda thunk it?


6 posted on 08/26/2008 6:15:47 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: SJackson

“resisting” is rather loaded term with Florida “lawmakers.”


7 posted on 08/26/2008 6:16:30 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (when you're bot, you're pwn3d)
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To: SJackson
Florida state Sen. Nan Rich told JTA that Obama surrogates have been “shocked” by the hostility they have encountered at condominiums in her area aimed at their candidate.

Why would Nan be shocked by Jews being hostile toward an anti-semitic?

8 posted on 08/26/2008 6:17:32 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: SJackson

Wow! If I were an older, Jewish voter, I’d be extremely offended that this broad wasserman completely minimizes their concerns by just saying the need to have bagels and cream cheese together!!

OMG. These people don’t realize how frightening obama really is when you think of him in real world circumstances like protecting the US, Israel, Georgia, etc. No confidence whatsoever.


9 posted on 08/26/2008 6:18:04 PM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: SJackson
"He needs to come down and have bagels and cream cheese in the condos and he will be fine," Wasserman Schultz said.

thats right... the old Jews are stooopid and will vote for anybody that eats a bagel mit schmeer, right??? please.

10 posted on 08/26/2008 6:18:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: SJackson
"He needs to come down and have bagels and cream cheese in the condos and he will be fine," Wasserman Schultz said.

What a genius.

These people know this guy named HUSSEIN and his supporters are anti-semites.

Shes not careful she could lose reelection next time to a primary challenger citing her support of the crypto-muslim.

11 posted on 08/26/2008 6:21:04 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: SJackson
"He needs to come down and have bagels and cream cheese in the condos and he will be fine," Wasserman Schultz said.

Boy, does she know how to insult her constituients! How shallow and ignorant does she think they are? So she thinks their votes can be had for the price of a bagel! Obama eats bagels with them and that makes him kosher?!

12 posted on 08/26/2008 6:21:48 PM PDT by Ziva (McCain could never make me vote for him... but Obama can.)
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To: spacejunkie01

Imagine if anyone said that McCain only needs to have some watermelon with blacks to get their vote.


13 posted on 08/26/2008 6:21:59 PM PDT by Carley
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To: Salman

“He needs to come down and have bagels and cream cheese in the condos and he will be fine,” Wasserman Schultz said.”

That was scheduled, but ultimately conflicted with his speech to 200,000 Germans at a war memorial treasured by the Nazis.


14 posted on 08/26/2008 6:24:41 PM PDT by Shermy (Barry O'Java - Joe Blah '08 (Carbon Credits and Credit Card Fee Increases Guaranteed))
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To: Carley

LMAO!


15 posted on 08/26/2008 6:25:13 PM PDT by TheRake (Lake Orion, MI)
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To: SJackson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2068585/posts
May be an especially hard choice if a nice Jewish boy Eric Cantor is the VP on the other side.


16 posted on 08/26/2008 6:25:33 PM PDT by scottteng (What ever happened to principles and self reliance?)
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To: Clemenza
Trouble brewing in Del Boca Vista !


17 posted on 08/26/2008 6:25:34 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: SJackson

You know Obama is in trouble when he can’t even win over the older Jewish set. Especially since they have been voting Democrat since the time of Moses. ;-)


18 posted on 08/26/2008 6:26:33 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: SJackson

Well, maybe not naive, but...

Any, repeat, any identifiable subgroup, Jewish, gay, veterans, woodworkers, polo players who might represent extra votes if addressed as their group, will have some degree of “formal” attention in a serious campaign. That’s the ground game, GOTV (Get out the vote). In most elections, it’s going through the motions. But sometimes it wins elections. You can’t always predict. So you always do it. It’s good politics.

Get involved at a lower level in a campaign. Volunteer. Work the polls. You’ll never look at politics the same way again. You’ll meet interesting people, and some crazies. But you’ll see the political ground game. It’s the same for both parties. Of course, the better people hang out here.


19 posted on 08/26/2008 6:31:24 PM PDT by Blagden Alley
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To: Carley
Imagine if anyone said that McCain only needs to have some watermelon with blacks to get their vote.

Well, you forgot the chitlins and fried chicken, silly.

20 posted on 08/26/2008 6:31:44 PM PDT by surely_you_jest ( Obama bin Biden . . . the same old same old .)
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To: Carley

No doubt. Good analogy. I think November is going to be a blowout for McCain.


21 posted on 08/26/2008 6:42:29 PM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: SJackson

These Floridiot Dem politicians have zero zip nada understanding of the race wars that went on in Northeastern cities between the Jewish and the black communities from the 1910’s to the 1970’s.

The Jewish retiree community in Florida that are living on fixed incomes are most likely to have 1st hand street view memories of those events, starting in the 1890’s (in German Harlem and elsewhere) and culminating in 1st ring inner suburbs in the 1980’s.


22 posted on 08/26/2008 6:43:09 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: SJackson

“”He needs to come down and have bagels and cream cheese in the condos and he will be fine,” Wasserman Schultz said.”

HOW insulting and condescending!!!

As far as “mob mentality” (quoted previously in the article) - anyone watch BHO’s “rallies”???


23 posted on 08/26/2008 6:44:02 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

My parents live in Boca and many of their neighbors will not admit to voting for McCain come November, but were angered by his victory over their chosen candidate (Hillary!).


24 posted on 08/26/2008 6:45:17 PM PDT by Clemenza (Giving Power to Government is Like Giving Whiskey and Car Keys to Teenage Boys)
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To: Clemenza

Now if only they would toss their horrific ultraleftist Jewish rodents for sensible Jewish Conservative Republicans...


25 posted on 08/26/2008 6:47:55 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Salman

Of course. Obama is going to visit, they’ll chat, he’ll fix them a bagel with a schmear and they’ll kibbitz and everything will be fine. Right Debbie?

I don’t think so!


26 posted on 08/26/2008 6:49:09 PM PDT by marlon
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To: doc1019

“Especially since they have been voting Democrat since the time of Moses.”

well....it does say a lot, doesn’t it?

also interesting how the MSM (print and otherwise) have so long loved to talk about “Obamacans” (repubs for obama) when, in fact, the “dirty little secret” is the very large (and growing) number of dems that say they’ll vote for McCain, NOT BHO.


27 posted on 08/26/2008 6:57:15 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Clemenza

” but were angered by his victory over their chosen candidate (Hillary!).”

you mean BHO’s victory over Hillary, right? Hence, a lot of them will vote for McCain?


28 posted on 08/26/2008 7:04:37 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: llandres

You know, of course, that the Obama crowd will call this racism (not discernment). ;-)


29 posted on 08/26/2008 7:08:47 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: SJackson
The Florida **gays** I know won't vote for the Messiah.

Hussein ain't got a prayer.

30 posted on 08/26/2008 7:19:10 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: doc1019

“You know, of course, that the Obama crowd will call this racism”

They call everything racism - truly. Chronic whining doesn’t become the leader of the (still) most powerful nation on earth.


31 posted on 08/26/2008 7:21:13 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: llandres

Amen!


32 posted on 08/26/2008 7:23:22 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Nah. Wexler would get reelected by the Bocacrats if he grew a Charlie Chaplin moustache, flew the swastika, and passed pork as veal at his family seder.


33 posted on 08/26/2008 7:56:08 PM PDT by Clemenza (Giving Power to Government is Like Giving Whiskey and Car Keys to Teenage Boys)
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To: Carley
Imagine if anyone said that McCain only needs to have some watermelon with blacks to get their vote.

Oh my; that's good. That's very good.
34 posted on 08/26/2008 10:09:10 PM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: NativeNewYorker
The Florida **gays** I know won't vote for the Messiah.

Why? Just curious.
35 posted on 08/26/2008 10:12:03 PM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Obama will lose Florida by 10%. He may be the first Democrat since Dukakis to LOSE Palm Beach County (he should get Broward due to the huge black population there though).

As I stated upthread, most of my parents neighbors won't admit to voting for McCain yet, but I'm sure many will.

I'm shocked that the gays aren't going for Obama. He is the gayest looking and acting candidate since James Buchanan. Then again, gays prefer their ideal man "rugged" and their women mercurial.

36 posted on 08/26/2008 10:16:39 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Commen)
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To: SJackson

I’ve spoken to 10 Jewish elderly in FL and only one comes out and says she votes Obama. The rest are split between John McCain and not voting or maybe voting McCain


37 posted on 08/27/2008 12:23:37 AM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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To: surely_you_jest

And the collard greens... can’t forget them, otherwise it just doesn’t work.


38 posted on 08/27/2008 4:06:06 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: SJackson; Clintonfatigued
Maybe some of these Jewish senors in FL have finally been detoxed and rehabbed from their lifelong addictions to the 'Rats. That's one reason why McCain is ahead in FL and figures to win there.
39 posted on 08/27/2008 7:17:21 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: spacejunkie01; SJackson
If I were an older, Jewish voter, I'd be extremely offended that this broad Wasserman [actually Wasserman-Schultz; note the New Age lib use of the hyphenated name] completely minimizes their concerns by just saying we need to have bagels and cream cheese together.

You're right. It just shows how blase and condescending the 'Rats have been for years, taking this demographic for granted. Hopefully, all the bagels and cream cheese on the planet can't compensate for these voters' valid concerns about "Osama" Obama's Arab terrorist pals and what it may portend for the future of Israel.

40 posted on 08/27/2008 7:27:15 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: JerseyHighlander
My guess is you have your history wrong. Most elderly New York-area bred Jews have fairly good memories of the relatively few blacks with whom they had contact in their youth and early adult years. The problems really started with the Ocean Hill-Brownsville school district dispute and teachers strike in the late '60s. Up through the heyday of the civil rights movement, relationships between the communities were, on the whole, good.
41 posted on 08/27/2008 7:37:23 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: SJackson; firebrand; rmlew; dennisw; juliej; OldFriend; montag813; nyyankeefan; pabianice; ...

Ping!!!

Please see my posts #s 39-41.


42 posted on 08/27/2008 7:59:53 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: no dems; Clemenza

At the risk of getting seriously flamed, the gay men I know are of the quiet, stay-at-home, domestic variety, and view the Messiah through the same lens as their Jewish neighbors: as a shrill, phony, corrupt ideologue who carries the flame for socialism and that peculiar church he attended for two decades.


43 posted on 08/27/2008 8:06:48 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: justiceseeker93; dennisw; SJackson; Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach; potlatch; devolve; ...
Hussein unhesitatingly says yes I will meet unconditionally with the loudmouth Holocaust-denier who constantly calls for Israel's destruction--

A person perceived by the world (of which he claims to be a citizen) as a Muslim--

Who selects as his running mate a bag of poop who refused to declare the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist organization--

Whose "Christian" mentor is a bosom-buddy of Louis Farrakhan--

Whose wife "grew up in Jesse Hymietown's house"--

[see also, Dining with the Edward Saids]

A person who campaigned in 2006 for Raila Odinga in Kenya after the latter signed a letter of understanding with the Kenyan Muslims promising to make Islam paramount while suppressing "the followers of the cross"--

Hey, hey, hey, let's all sit down and Michelle will bring us some nice bagels and we can relax and be civilized--


44 posted on 08/27/2008 8:28:52 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Careful! the Anointed One’s minions will call you a racist..


45 posted on 08/27/2008 8:35:22 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: SJackson

“The friend of my enemy is my enemy.”

I guess you really have to be ignorant to be a lefty.


46 posted on 08/27/2008 8:38:53 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: justiceseeker93; freekitty; oswegodeee; TXRed; Free ThinkerNY; Clintonfatigued; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

Despite the MSM’s feeble attempt to paint a glorious picture of the Muslim Messiah’s visit to Israel, Israelis do NOT support or trust the Muslim Messiah. That message will be sent to synagogues in the US.


47 posted on 08/27/2008 8:46:17 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SJackson

I’m sure it isn’t helping Obama that his campaign strategy has been to attack McCain on age. The democrats have been downright rude about how the “elderly” are not capable.


48 posted on 08/27/2008 8:47:31 AM PDT by Republican Red ("Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?")
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To: Republican Red
I’m sure it isn’t helping Obama that his campaign strategy has been to attack McCain on age. The democrats have been downright rude about how the “elderly” are not capable.

That's an interesting issue, and Obama certainly has been attacking on it, as in at that age you're automatically senile. I doubt that helps, most older folk don't look at age 70 as the onset of senility.

On the other hand, if they'd emphacized the stresses of the job, who knows, it might resonate. I've no doubt of McCain's ability to do the job, but I'd speculate that many seventy somethings might consider it beyond the capabilities of themselve and friends. But outright attacks on his, and their, mental facilities, I doubt that works.

49 posted on 08/27/2008 8:54:22 AM PDT by SJackson (as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station, Michelle O)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Despite the MSM’s feeble attempt to paint a glorious picture of the Muslim Messiah’s visit to Israel, Israelis do NOT support or trust the Muslim Messiah. That message will be sent to synagogues in the US.

One factor there might be his vagueness about his background. In Israel, as in the Arab world, his religion would clearly have been Muslim. Later he became a Christian. From an Israeli perspective, there's the question of why he "lies" about his faith. From an American perspective, presuming he never practiced Islam, I'm taking his word here not argueing the position, most people would consider him Christian, only. His parents faith wouldn't be a factor.

50 posted on 08/27/2008 9:02:10 AM PDT by SJackson (as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station, Michelle O)
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