Posted on 08/27/2008 12:05:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Russia put the West on alert for a new Cold War that the Kremlin is ready to fight, its President said yesterday.
President Medvedev set tensions soaring when he recognised the independence of two breakaway republics inside Georgia. “We are not afraid of anything, including the prospect of a Cold War,” he said. Hours earlier he had ordered his Foreign Ministry to start establishing diplomatic ties with the secessionist regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
The move brought instant condemnation from the United States, Britain, France, Germany and other Western countries. President Bush appealed to the Kremlin to “reconsider this irresponsible decision”. David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary, said that it was “unjustifiable and unacceptable”.
Mr Medvedev, whose troops still occupy positions in Georgia, including in the vital Black Sea port of Poti, said that he did not want a return to the Cold War, but that “everything depends on the position of our partners”.
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H/T to the Drudge Report....
Responding to the headline alone, it’s nice to see Medvedev finally catching-up to what Putin is doing.
more news from Russia...via London and Georgia.
There are some even here that can't even grasp the McFaul mission is the first military test of the new cold war. They don't see Poland, the Ukraine, and the former satellites as endangered.
Come November we might actually have a president who would surrender in the new cold war. At least that is what his naivete on the campaign trail would indicate (His promise to disarm nukes)
Other than titanium, I can’t think of anything we really need from the Rooskies. And if we did need some, the CIA can set up another dummy trading company and get it anyway.
So, what is their end game? I can only fathom that they percieve the American people as being so anti-confrontational that they will elect obama rather than mccain to avoid any political or military confrontation, and, they might be right.
I think he said this morning he is ready to go to War,(no mention of cold) if poland installs the missile defense we want them to.
I pray that you are right!
I fear that you are NOT!
Russian threat to Nato supply route in Afghanistan
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Russia played a trump card in its strategic poker game with the West yesterday by threatening to suspend an agreement allowing Nato (sic) to take supplies and equipment to Afghanistan through Russia and Central Asia.
The agreement was struck at a Nato (sic) summit in April to provide an alternative supply route to the road between the Afghan capital and the Pakistani border, which has come under attack from militants on both sides of the frontier this year.
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Mr Kabulov also suggested that the stand-off over Georgia could lead Russia to review agreements allowing Nato (sic) members to use Russian airspace and to maintain bases in the former Soviet Central Asian states of Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.
I can think of no other reason to stage this now, just before the election.I also think this is a huge test of our fortitude and international standing. I guess it is good that I am not commander in chief. If it was me, I would sink every ship in the black sea fleet, send missles to every tank position in Georgia and then bomb the tunnel going through the mountains so they would be trapped like a rat as our guys took care of business, but thats just me.
Let’s see - population less than half the U.S, and shrinking by 800M a year, GNP one tenth of the U.S., oil based economy while oil production is declining, military dependent on conscription and is little motivated (apart from chasing boy scouts in Georgia), infrastructure that is falling apart (well, yes, we have that problem too). These boys are so 19th century it boggles the mind- too bad they got nukes.
If that is true Ernest, I fear that an Afghan invasion by Russia might also be in the works. If we don’t move in Georgia, they must think we would abandon Afghanistan as well. I hate to be so pessimistic but we may very well be in for a fight, or, depending who’s elected, turn tale and run.
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I often think that we should have listened to Gen. Patton.
Putin will keep tensions high far as long as he can between East and West. I think he believes its job security. That’s one of the ways the last group of KGB Officers stayed in power for so long in the USSR.
I don’t like Russians, even those with American citizenships. It’s not that I don’t trust them, I don’t. It’s something about them that makes me think they’re always up to something.
Their testing the waters. If they see the American voter cares little for our national defense and votes the anointed one in, they will know they are back in the saddle. If the American voter vote for McCain mostly on defense issues, then they will be a bit more crafty as how they proceed in retaking their former satellites over. And of course either way if the oil/gas issues start to favor the conservative American base, they will understand their future limitations on just how much money they will be able to sink into rebuilding their defense arm. If the US went hog wild on oil/gas drilling we could potentially put them out of business in ten or twenty years.
Ridiculous title, trying to refer to the opening line of the communist manifesto no doubt, but "second time farce" applies.
Thats the way to go Chief,You Da man. It's just a test of our fortitude.We as a nation cannot or will not protect our own borders,yet you as our omnipotent ruler would unleash a NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST UPON US.
You sir are a FOOL.
A PATHETIC keyboard warrior just like all your other "fight for Georgia Brethren"
Georgia ,Ukraine and Poland can fight their own battles
All European wars RUN through these nations.
we are not a European Nation anymore.
I lived over two thirds of my life under threat of nuclear destruction I'll be damned if I want to return to it for some WORTHLESS Caucasian ground.
That would have solved our problems.We shoulda bombed them commies all the way to Siberia.
Truly a NEW AMERICAN CENTURY.What a waste the Cold War was.
Stalin swinging on a gibbet would been as good as good as Hitler suiciding in a bunker.
Knocking down the Russian involves NUCLEAR WAR.The Soviet Union Defeated Nazi Germany with BRUTE strength never again will the Russians be willing to do this.
So, if Russia overuns Poland, Ukraine and other Baltic nations, thats OK with you?
How many times have the Russians overun Poland ,the Ukraine and the Baltic States history is our friend.Clue, they were overrunning these places long before we were a Nation.
How bout when they arm Iran and Syria with nukes, you ok with that also. And if it goes that far is there any doubt in your mind that Hugo Chavez would be next in line for his missiles.
Let Isreal deal with our dirty work we have their back.Truman doctrine,Cuban misslie crisis history is our friend.
You do know Russia wants to close supply lines we use into Afghanistan right? sore losers
Can you not see what is going on. Russia is trying to influence all of Europe, if they do, what then.
Its called brinksmanship my friend.
Well ok then, go stick your head back in the sand, you might be hunting some duck and cover when you least expect it.
FOOL,I was taught how to "duck and cover" in 1970
The only difference this time is that I will taking my young children with me.
Sorry dude, duck and cover was in the late 50’s early 60’s, I know, I was there. And, speaking of fools, you still voting for Obama, right?
WHO ARE THE RUSSIANS?
History 101
I was hopin' you would feed him to some of those big catfish before it came to that.
The Bolsheviks would have been defeated if it had not been for massive Allied military and supply support for Stalin's caught off guard, near leaderless, communist dictatorship -- at a great loss to Allied serviceman's lives.
Recall Russia jointly invaded, butchered & dismembered Poland with the Nazis in 1939, then Moscow came crying to Washington and London when the Kremlin's former Berlin AXIS comrades stabbed butcher Stalin in the back.
Putin is Stalin Jr and must be confronted by NATO before Moscow & their Anti-Western cohorts ignite the unthinkable.
Thank you for pinging me.
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