Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 08/28/2008 4:28:18 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
We have observed spectroscopic changes in temperature sensitive molecular lines, in the magnetic splitting of an Fe I line, and in the continuum brightness of over 1000 sunspot umbrae from 1990-2005. All three measurements show consistent trends in which the darkest parts of the sunspot umbra have become warmer (45K per year) and their magnetic field strengths have decreased (77 Gauss per year), independently of the normal 11-year sunspot cycle. A linear extrapolation of these trends suggests that few sunspots will be visible after 2015.
(Excerpt) Read more at icecap.us ...
This is a hard scientific study out of the National Solar Observatory that seems to show that the current solar cycle is going to be longer and weaker than expected, and may portend something resembling the Maunder Minimum. The icecap.us article links two other articles, an analysis and the complete paper in PDF format. I'll provide those here as well:
paper:
http://www.astroengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/livingston-penn_sunspots2.pdf
analysis:
http://www.astroengine.com/?p=678
As the analysis points out, they don't yet have an extensive data set. Still, sure looks like the Farmer's Almanac has this winter pegged...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065287/posts
Here in SE Virginia, this summer has been cool. Spring was cold. August should be blistering in terms of heat and humidity.
It’s chilly in the early morning and we’ve noticed some birds started migration two weeks ago.
OMG! Obama promised change, but this is too much.
For the love of High Frequency radio, please let this not be true. Although it’s pretty much the situation that we’re in right now...
The summer has been cool here in Michigan too. I was up in the UP in July and we wore jackets almost the whole time. Down here in the bottom part of the state we’ve had nights mostly in the 50s.
Winner for funniest response so far...lol
To Do List:
Make predictions of current events.
LOL!
No sunspots in 2015 is quite a bold prediction, and completely counter to the mainstream among solar scientists. Most are predicting an end to the current minimum by late this year or early next year. Regardless, we’re already in a cooling trend I think.
There’s plenty more material on icecap.us or around the web.
Cut back on CO2
Deindustrialize the West
Sell carbon off-sets
Raise taxes
Exempt China from any proposed regulations related to the problem
The sun is blank--no sunspots
Nice post.
Like the website.
Cheers!
No sunspots means your Yaseu FT 857d is now a $700 paperweight
He certainly will, and the fact that CO2 emission have risen unabated despite all the hoopla and billions spent won’t make a bit of difference. Its all perception.
I get really disheartened sometimes at how comprehensive and successful the brainwashing has been. I keep telling people that its nothing but a lot of manipulated computer data and they just look at me and talk about the melting icecaps!
“The sun is blank—no sunspots”
Yep, and most observatories show none since around last June. IF this current minimum goes well into 2009, it will enter the “very long” category...it’s already a long one.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2064374/posts
Sissies. ;-)
This is easily reversible or even preventable by the use of a bio nuclear Hydrogen recombiner placed along the axis of the pro ionization convergence of the previous and next expected sunspot activity.
By starting the bio emitter at 385 HRZ (in the blue/green spectrum) the effects of the Sunspot activity can be easily mitigated, or if necessary even increased if the Blue/green spectrum is exchanged for the Red/blue.
This information is easily and readily available on page 375 of this report. Take note that you will need your Lone Ranger decoder ring to access the truth.
Lets see, Fe is Iron, Iron is used by modern Industrialized man to make cars and buildings, Man is now responsible for splitting the Sun's Iron processes, this will cause MASSIVE climate change in the NEAR FUTURE. Send MONEY NOW!
I’m not clear on this — can somebody help me? When I make a tinfoil hat, does the shiny side go on the OUTSIDE, or does it go on the INSIDE?
HA! What a thigh-slapper!
Depends. If you're trying to keep your brain waves from escaping, shiny side in. If you're trying to keep the gov't out, shiny side out. Personally, if they want my brain waves, they need to pay for them, so i'm a shiny in kind of guy.
The liberals are trying to stampede us into a socialist hell using climate change as the instrument of our destruction. They know full well that unless something happens soon in terms of legislation, this entire scam will be seen for what it is. It is just a matter of time.
Linear extrapolation is always useful. For example, we should all be paying 200% of our income in taxes by now, and -25% of Americans should be on welfare.
No, he'll claim that efforts to reduce CO2 have produced some kind of feedback effect on the sun causing it to cool to make the earth cool from man-made global warming.
You're both wrong. This is a Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card for the MMGW freaks. Now, their data doesn't have to show warming. They will say that the Earth is still much warmer than it would otherwise be and that when the sun cycle ends we are all going to burst into flames.
If we are .5 degrees colder, they will say that we should actually be 1.5 degrees colder, thus we are 1 degree warmer.
My guess is the sunspots will stop...wait for it...now, er I mean...now.
I’m in the Tidewater area. We’ve really only had one full week of sustained heat and humidity. We’ve had hot days here and there but nothing like the usual. My wife and I have spent more evenings sitting on the patio after work this summer than we ever have in last 10 years combined.
From the same site:
Aug 25, 2008
Climate Similar to the 1800s Within the Next 15 Years: First Stage of Global Cooling During 2008/09
By David Dilley, Meteorologist
In the peer reviewed book “Global Warming—Global Cooling, Natural Cause Found”, meteorologist and climate researcher David Dilley utilizes nearly a half million years of data linking long term gravitational cycles of the moon explain the recent global warming, rises in carbon dioxide levels, and for 2200 global warming cycles during the past half million years.
The gravitational cycles are called the Primary Forcing Mechanism for Climate (PFM), and act like a magnet by pulling the atmosphere’s high pressure systems northward or southward by as much as 3 or 4 degrees of latitude from their normal seasonal positions, and thus causing long-term shifts in the location of atmospheric high pressure systems.
Research by Mr. Dilley shows a near 100 percent correlation between the PFM gravitational cycles to the beginning and ending of global warming cycles. Global warming cycles began right on time with each PFM cycle during the past half million years, as did the current warming which began 100 years ago, and it will end right on time as the current gravitational cycle begins its cyclical decline.
Global temperatures have cooled during the past 12 months. During 2008 and 2009 the first stage of global cooling will cool the world’s temperatures to those observed during the years from the 1940s through the 1970s. By the year 2023 global climate will become similar to the colder temperatures experienced during the 1800s.
Mr. Dilley of Global Weather Oscillations has found seven different types of recurring gravitational cycles ranging from the very warm 460,000 year cycle down to a 230 year recurring global warming cycle. All of the gravitational cycles coincide nearly 100 percent with 2200 global warming events during the past half million years. This includes the earth’s current warming cycle which began around the year 1900, and the first stage of global cooling that will begin during 2008 and 2009.
The release of the book “Global Warming- Global Cooling, Natural Cause Found” culminates 19 years of research clearly linking gravitational cycles as the cause for fluctuations within the earth’s climate. The book is available as an electronic e-Book on this website. The author David Dilley is a meteorologist and climate researcher with Global Weather Oscillations Inc. (GWO), former meteorologist with the National Weather Service, and co-host of the radio program “the Politically Incorrect Weather Guys” airing weekly on RadioEarNetwork.com, an internet streaming radio program. Read more here. He also believes a moderate El Nino will occur this fall.
CAGW = catastrophic anthropogenic global warming?
Two layers, one each way. Complete protection.
History Channel says it’s all over in 2012 - don’t worry about it.
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
Don't ever use two layers with the shiny sides together! The waves will get trapped between them and start resonating which will cause your head to explode! ;^)
This has to stop. The only solution is for us to send all liberal Democrats to the sun so they can do something about it. We can tell them they will all be safe as we’ll send them there at night.
LOL!
“Don’t ever use two layers with the shiny sides together! The waves will get trapped between them and start resonating which will cause your head to explode!”
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I did this before reading you shouldn’t do it and my head DID explode. Great. Now I believe in global warming, the tooth fairy, and am planning to vote for Obama.
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Please get your explanations out quicker...
Bush’s fault, or possibly Big Oil.
ping
Wait, you mean to tell me there is no tooth fairy! Great, just great.
The creation of iron is the last stage in a very large star's life cycle. It immediately precedes a supernova.
This is a very good article on Stella Evolution from Wikipedia.
This figures into a Science Fiction novel that I am writing.
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/johnny
Gee this global cooling is just a result of global warming and when the cooling is over it will get warm again. (Sarcasm)
You shouldn’t believe everything you read from someone whose head has exploded.
“Linear extrapolation is always useful. For example, we should all be paying 200% of our income in taxes by now, and -25% of Americans should be on welfare.”
Linear extrapolation is useful when the data is...linear.
We’ll see how that plays out, but it sure looks linear from 1990-present, which covers over a full solar cycle. The nice thing about this prediction, unlike the “X temperature in 2100” predictions, is we’ll all know how this turns out in our lifetimes. ;-)
> No sunspots means your Yaseu FT 857d is now a $700 paperweight <
Maybe. But remember that sporadic E propagation tends to be negatively correlated with sunspots. So while the F layer may cease to be operational at HF, there could be increased E layer refraction from ca. 20 mHz upwards.
According to the Goracle we should all be able to smelt lead on sidewalks by the end of the decade.
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