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EU 'Can't Accept' Serbia's World Court Move (France upset about Serbs want to keep Kosovo)
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/12720/ ^

Posted on 08/28/2008 11:03:44 AM PDT by kronos77

28 August 2008 Belgrade _ The French Foreign Minister says Serbia has a right to seek a world court ruling on the legality of Kosovo’s independence but warned the EU would not fully accept it.

In a statement to Serbia’s state news agency Tanjug in Paris, Bernard Kouchner warned that “if eventually the International Court of Justice will consider the case, something I am not certain about, it would have to take into account all relevant elements.”

“Do not forget that are international agreements, the United Nations and international community stand (on the issue)… The court will take all of that into consideration. We did not make up Kosovo’s independence,” Kouchner said at the sidelines of the French envoys’ gathering.

Asked if France was considering any reaction to Serbia’s bid to get UN member states on side for a world court ruling, Kouchner argued that “just like the whole world, they (Serbia) have the right to seek an opinion.”

But he warned, “We have said that Serbia cannot ask Europe if it can join it and at the same time ask from Europe to entirely agree with the request.”

"They asked the UN General Assembly, we will see what will happen, what the answer will be,” he said, adding that “that does not change our position” regarding Kosovo.

Despite similar warnings and Belgrade’s own view that any ruling will only carry moral weight, Belgrade has launched a diplomatic offensive to get support within the UN for its draft resolution seeking the International Court of Justice’s opinion on whether Pristina’s February move to secede form Belgrade was in line with international law. Read more: http://balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/12398

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; balkans; clintonlegacy; geopolitics; islam; jihad; kosovo; mohammedanism; serbia; terror; worldcourt; wrongside
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To: kronos77

And you and your buddies have been parroting Russian propaganda that Georgia killed 2,000 South Ossetians, which is proven to be a big fat lie. Sorry, bub. Serbia can go suck eggs for all I care now.


21 posted on 08/28/2008 11:46:49 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kronos77
Sympathetic? No. All I said was: “Russia is doing just a thing US did to Serbs”

Liar: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2062944/posts

You were all over yourself posting the Russian propaganda when this first broke. You act like we can't search back in the archives.

22 posted on 08/28/2008 11:49:54 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: wideawake

Ossetia has left Georgia for good. Deal with it.


23 posted on 08/28/2008 11:50:39 AM PDT by Diplomat
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To: indcons

It is like this.
For us, Serbs in our situation, US=Russia.
we are to choose between US-NATO made pile of anti-Serb cr*p, and pile of Russian-made anti-NATO cr*p.
Both piles stinks, and whatever you do you will get sick.


24 posted on 08/28/2008 11:51:38 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: Diplomat
Ossetia has left Georgia for good. Deal with it.

I don't particularly care if South Ossetia leaves Georgia or not.

I'm just pointing out that its departure is not due to an actual grassroots independence movement, but to Russian military occupation.

Let's not kid ourselves.

The two million ethnic Albanian Kosovars wanted to leave Serbia and were energized to do so by the departure of Slovenia and Croatia and Macedonia and Bosnia and Montenegro - and figured that if Montenegro, which is basically ethnically Serb and one-third their population, could leave Serbia they certainly could. After all, Albanians were close to 20% of Serbia's population before Kosovo left.

Anyone who thinks that 65,000 South Ossetians - maybe 1.25% of Georgia's population - realistically wanted to make a go of it as a separate nation is smoking crack.

25 posted on 08/28/2008 12:08:01 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

“The choice was simple: sit back and watch the decade’s second Balkan genocide, or split the two combatants up.”

I’m no fan of Milosevic, but there was no genocide in Kosovo. If ther was, wouldn’t the Hague have charged Milosevic with it? The Hague’s charges against Milosevic regarding Kosovo didn’t include genocide.


26 posted on 08/28/2008 3:08:53 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Putin sucks.)
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To: wideawake

“The two million ethnic Albanian Kosovars wanted to leave Serbia and were energized to do so by the departure of Slovenia and Croatia and Macedonia and Bosnia and Montenegro - and figured that if Montenegro, which is basically ethnically Serb and one-third their population, could leave Serbia they certainly could.”

The difference was that under the old Yugoslav Constitution, republics had the right to leave, at least on paper, while autonomous provinces (which Kosovo was) didn’t.

“Anyone who thinks that 65,000 South Ossetians - maybe 1.25% of Georgia’s population - realistically wanted to make a go of it as a separate nation is smoking crack.”

True, but then again Putin may not want a independent South Ossetia,but rather seeks to attach it to North Ossetia.


27 posted on 08/28/2008 3:12:29 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Putin sucks.)
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To: wideawake

Kosovo is Serbia.

Deal with it.

The foreign troops will leave and then peace and justice will return to Kosovo alongside the Serb Army.

Serbs are neither Dhimmis nor quitters, you see.


29 posted on 08/28/2008 5:08:19 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: wideawake

Espousing every anti-Christian Serb propaganda line there is, I see.

Next will come posts from Soros-sponsored websites, no doubt.


30 posted on 08/28/2008 5:09:51 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: wideawake
There's been a lot of whining and complaining since, but no new Srebrenicas.

Only if one chooses to ignore (or perhaps supports) the ethnic cleansing of the Serb, Jew, and Roma residents of the Serbian province of Kosovo-Metohija, including the destruction of 200+ Christian Churches and monasteries.

It's just not the sort of thing a Christian would support.

31 posted on 08/28/2008 5:12:47 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

BUMP!


32 posted on 08/28/2008 6:20:24 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Jacob Kell
I’m no fan of Milosevic, but there was no genocide in Kosovo.

I didn't say there was. I said there were two possible outcomes: sitting back and watching a genocide happen, or splitting up the two parties so a genocide would not happen.

We chose scenario two and stepped in before scenario one could come to pass.

33 posted on 08/28/2008 7:14:44 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Jacob Kell
The difference was that under the old Yugoslav Constitution, republics had the right to leave, at least on paper, while autonomous provinces (which Kosovo was) didn’t.

Exposing the deep constitutional difficulties that inhere in Serbia - Serbia essentially claims to simultaneously be the legal successor of the old Kingdom, and the old Republic and the Communist Republic, when it is actually none of these three things but something new.

What is the constitutional status of the Republika Srpska - which has no status or authorization of any kind under the Yugoslav Constitution of any era?

Serbs rewrite the rules in their favor and then become enraged when other ethnic groups emulate them.

True, but then again Putin may not want a independent South Ossetia,but rather seeks to attach it to North Ossetia.

Of course he does. There is no actual South Ossetian independence movement - that's a Russian fiction.

34 posted on 08/28/2008 7:21:59 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: FormerLib
The foreign troops will leave and then peace and justice will return to Kosovo alongside the Serb Army.

Who will make the foreign troops leave? The Serb army? Don't make me laugh.

Assuming that foreign observers do decide to just vanish one day, allowing Serb armed forces to walk in, how will "justice" be restored?

Rounding up and shooting any Kosovars who resist invasion? Patrolling the streets of Kosovo night and day with Serb soldiers and secret police, keeping the Kosovars in line?

Serbs are neither Dhimmis nor quitters

Except, of course, for the three hundred or so years when they were officially dhimmis of the Sultan - and basically quitters.

35 posted on 08/28/2008 7:31:19 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: FormerLib
Espousing every anti-Christian Serb propaganda line there is, I see.

You're very fond of spouting the propaganda line of Serbia as a "Christian" nation.

I'll remind you again: less than 10% of the Serb population can be found anywhere near a church on Sunday.

Serbia is actually an atheist nation with a small Christian minority.

Were the Serbs who served in Nedic's volunteer forces under Waffen SS commanders Christians? How about the Serbs who served in Tito's secret police - were they some kind of monastic order?

Next will come posts from Soros-sponsored websites, no doubt.

You'll be waiting a very long time. But you'll say anything to avoid making a rational argument.

36 posted on 08/28/2008 7:37:24 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: FormerLib
Only if one chooses to ignore (or perhaps supports) the ethnic cleansing of the Serb, Jew, and Roma residents of the Serbian province of Kosovo-Metohija, including the destruction of 200+ Christian Churches and monasteries. It's just not the sort of thing a Christian would support.

And yet there are Serbs and Jews and Roma living in Kosovo. No military assaults on Serb towns. No graves with hundreds of Serb bodies in the Pristina suburbs. As I said - no new Srebrenicas.

Odd that.

Would you say that during the civil war waged between the Serbs and their subject peoples throughout the 1990s no Serbs destroyed any mosques, or Catholic churches? That this sickening back-and-forth destruction of each group's precious historical and religious sites was really completely one-sided? That the hands of the Serbs are as white as the snow and only the Croats' and Slovenes' and Bosniaks' and Albanians' hands are dirty?

Or are you only telling the half of the story you like to hear?

37 posted on 08/28/2008 7:44:35 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
The choice was simple: sit back and watch the decade's second Balkan genocide,..

You speak of the genocide fabricated by the American Left Wing Press to provide Slick Willie cover for the Lewinskis he got. Are you out on the street agitating to bomb the Sudanese Muslims for their ongoing murders of Infidels? How about bombing the Chinese for their murders of Tibetans or Uighurs? How about bombing Indonesia for its ongoing murders of Christians by Muslims?

America had no business bombing the Serbs. Clinton is a war criminal. Bush is a sell out. To expect Russia to roll over and be nice with NATO advancing its military front toward Russia on top of taking territory from its ethnic brethren is idiotic. It's dangerous. People championing such a foreign policy are nuts.

38 posted on 08/28/2008 7:58:33 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: wideawake
Who will make the foreign troops leave?

They will leave on their own. All the Serbs have to do is wait and then reclaim what is theirs.

Your jihadist allies can't kill them all.

39 posted on 08/28/2008 8:26:52 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib
They will leave on their own. All the Serbs have to do is wait and then reclaim what is theirs.

By invading Kosovo and killing thousands of Kosovars, presumably?

Your jihadist allies can't kill them all.

Do you think the Serbs' jihadist allies in Iran will help them reconquer Kosovo?

40 posted on 08/28/2008 8:33:50 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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