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To: djsherin
What did they cover up?

If you are a border agent and you discharge your weapon, you are required to file a full report describing the circumstances.

Compean fired a weapon at an unarmed criminal who was fleeing from him and failed to report it - even going so far as to tamper with the physical evidence at the scene in order to obscure what had taken place.

He failed to file the report and tampered with the evidence precisely because he knew that what he had done was against the law.

Ramos assisted in the coverup and then lied in an official inquiry along with Compean in order to cover up the circumstances of what had occurred.

13 posted on 08/28/2008 2:00:36 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

That you Johnny?


14 posted on 08/28/2008 2:04:04 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: wideawake

“Compean fired a weapon at an unarmed criminal who was fleeing from him and failed to report it - even going so far as to tamper with the physical evidence at the scene in order to obscure what had taken place.

He failed to file the report and tampered with the evidence precisely because he knew that what he had done was against the law.

Ramos assisted in the coverup and then lied in an official inquiry along with Compean in order to cover up the circumstances of what had occurred.”

That is wrong wrong wrong.


38 posted on 08/28/2008 2:35:42 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: wideawake
He failed to file the report and tampered with the evidence precisely because he knew that what he had done was against the law.

Or because he just didn't want to do the paperwork. The seemed to be a bit lax in following regulations there. There really wasn't any evidence they knew they had hit the suspect. They saw him climb into a car on the Mexican side that picked him up.

The suspect's testimony was also not very consistent, and parts of it weren't even close to believable.

Ramos assisted in the coverup and then lied in an official inquiry along with Compean in order to cover up the circumstances of what had occurred.

He didn't report discharging his weapon. I don't remember evidence of him covering up the incident beyond that, nor do I remember hearing that he lied during the inquiry.

I do kind of remember hearing that Compean's statements in the inquiry weren't perfectly consistent.

Neither the agents, nor the suspect ended up with much credibility. The suspect said he didn't have a gun or anything in his hand that could have been mistaken for a gun. Compean said he saw a gun, but the jury obviously didn't believe him because he had destroyed his own credibility. However, I really don't understand how they could have believed the suspect either, so I don't understand how the case was proved beyond a reasonable doubt.

Of course the suspect was also allowed to lie on the stand and make it sound like he had innocently gotten caught up in this one drug delivery because he desperately needed the money, but that the was an innocent, law abiding person other than that.

They already had evidence that he had taken in another load at the time of the trial, but the jury was not allowed to hear about that. At least he wasn't granted immunity for that other incident and was convicted. However, his sentence was only 57 months.

43 posted on 08/28/2008 2:46:21 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: wideawake
Compean fired a weapon at an unarmed criminal who was fleeing from him and failed to report it.

There are only three people in this world who know if he was unarmed, two former Border Patrol Agents and one convicted drug smuggler.

44 posted on 08/28/2008 2:46:24 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: wideawake
Compean fired a weapon at an unarmed criminal

We have only the involved criminal's word on this.

The same criminal that Sutton's office presented to the jury as a one time smuggler just trying to get money for an operation for his sick mother, all the while Sutton knew that it was a lie.

46 posted on 08/28/2008 2:49:07 PM PDT by RJL
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To: wideawake

“He failed to file the report and tampered with the evidence precisely because he knew that what he had done was against the law.”

So he told you that’s why he did it....precisely? That’s not what I’ve heard at all. The reports said that they were required to file a report with their supervisor...except that their supervisor was THERE.

The criminal part of all of this is that this President sees fit to leave these patriots in jail while the REAL criminal gets free passes into the US courtesy of the taxpayer to be a witness against them. And, of course, we don’t let the jury know that he’s a multiple times drug runner THUG doing what he does best. He deserved more than a slug in the butt.


56 posted on 08/28/2008 3:13:12 PM PDT by battletank
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