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Palin's Child Diagnosed with Down Syndrome (April 22, 2008)
Anchorage Daily News ^ | 4-22-2008 | Lisa Demer

Posted on 08/29/2008 8:29:23 AM PDT by unspun

"When we first heard, it was kind of confusing," Palin, 44, said. She called the revelation "very, very challenging" and said she initially felt sad.

But the family has worked through that. Palin said she and Todd feel blessed and chosen by God. With a big family including four older kids, grandparents, aunts and uncles, Palin said, they will have lots of support for what's ahead. In their eyes, she said, "he's absolutely perfect."

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In a letter she e-mailed to relatives and close friends Friday after giving birth, Palin wrote, "Many people will express sympathy, but you don't want or need that, because Trig will be a joy. You will have to trust me on this." She wrote it in the voice of and signed it as "Trig's Creator, Your Heavenly Father."

"Children are the most precious and promising ingredient in this mixed-up world you live in down there on Earth. Trig is no different, except he has one extra chromosome," Palin wrote.

As for people who think a baby like Trig shouldn't even be born, look around, the governor wrote. Who is perfect or even normal?


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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cultureoflife; downs; downsyndrome; palin; sarahpalin; trigpalin
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Contrast to the Downs babies that Barack Obama wants killed, even outside the womb, after birth. (Then, Obama apparently lies to cover up the reasons he killed the bill to save their lives.)

Jill Stanek's story of another Downs baby:

http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2007/09/stanek_on_the_o.html

http://www.jillstanek.com/


1 posted on 08/29/2008 8:29:23 AM PDT by unspun
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To: unspun

GREAT lady!!

GREAT choice!!!!!


2 posted on 08/29/2008 8:34:28 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: unspun
As a PROUD Grandmother of a Downs little boy (10 yrs old), I am so happy McCain picked this wonderful lady with so much "good character" as to make the right "Choice" is keeping this child, a true gift from GOD.

I can't imagine life without my grandson.

McCain you did good. Thanks

3 posted on 08/29/2008 8:42:23 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: annieokie

Bravo, bravo! A college friend (from the ‘60s) is friendly with Sarah and her “First Dude” hubby Todd. Brilliant choice for VP - they may remind the lefties what America is about.


4 posted on 08/29/2008 9:16:42 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: unspun

Her decision to carry on with her political career even with a 4 MONTH OLD new born with special needs is immoral IMHO. Once upon a time most conservatives bashed, and quite rightly, the idea of a woman letting someone else raise their kids so they “could have it all.”


5 posted on 08/29/2008 9:25:58 AM PDT by KantianBurke (President Bush, why did you abandon Specialist Ahmed Qusai al-Taei?)
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To: KantianBurke

I don’t think that the decision is immoral, just unwise.

The children will suffer.


6 posted on 08/29/2008 9:33:43 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: KantianBurke
Her decision to carry on with her political career even with a 4 MONTH OLD new born with special needs is immoral IMHO. Once upon a time most conservatives bashed, and quite rightly, the idea of a woman letting someone else raise their kids so they “could have it all.”

Agreed. McCain and the Republican Party have chosen a cold hearted feminist.

7 posted on 08/29/2008 9:51:10 AM PDT by donna (Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.)
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To: unspun

The Beauty & the Beast has gravitas on the ticket.


8 posted on 08/29/2008 9:55:30 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: KantianBurke
Her decision to carry on with her political career even with a 4 MONTH OLD new born with special needs is immoral IMHO. Once upon a time most conservatives bashed, and quite rightly, the idea of a woman letting someone else raise their kids so they “could have it all.”

I don't know who you are or what your axe to grind really is, but Mr. and Mrs. Palin aren't letting anyone else raise her children!

9 posted on 08/29/2008 9:59:24 AM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: KantianBurke
Her decision to carry on with her political career even with a 4 MONTH OLD new born with special needs is immoral IMHO. Once upon a time most conservatives bashed, and quite rightly, the idea of a woman letting someone else raise their kids so they “could have it all.”

I don't know who you are or what your axe to grind really is, but Mr. and Mrs. Palin aren't letting anyone else raise their children!

10 posted on 08/29/2008 10:00:05 AM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: donna
Agreed. McCain and the Republican Party have chosen a cold hearted feminist.

Wow. To see the love beaming out like a lighthouse from that whole family, then to see such a disgraceful and ignorant remark on this site is bizarre.

11 posted on 08/29/2008 10:07:52 AM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: KantianBurke; unspun; donna
Her decision to carry on with her political career even with a 4 MONTH OLD new born with special needs is immoral IMHO

So is casting the first stone.

12 posted on 08/29/2008 10:22:19 AM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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To: unspun

I’m sorry. Never thought that pointing out that choosing crass political opportunity over raising an INFANT was indicative of having an “axe to grind.” But now that we’re on the topic how do YOU know who’s going to be raising Palin’s kids now? Am pretty confident it ain’t going to be the mommy which as was remarked before is immoral and pretty heartless.


13 posted on 08/29/2008 10:25:48 AM PDT by KantianBurke (President Bush, why did you abandon Specialist Ahmed Qusai al-Taei?)
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To: KantianBurke
Her decision to carry on with her political career even with a 4 MONTH OLD new born with special needs is immoral IMHO. Once upon a time most conservatives bashed, and quite rightly, the idea of a woman letting someone else raise their kids so they “could have it all.”

The Palin's will raise all 5 of their children without any help from you or anybody else. Judging by what I've seen and coming from a family of 5 children where Dad died at 40 they've done a helluva job just like my Mom did and they will continue to do so.

14 posted on 08/29/2008 10:26:45 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (Sarah Palin Pro Life, Pro Gun, Pro America, Thank you Lord! :-})
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To: nitzy; KantianBurke; unspun

1 Corinthians 6

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.


15 posted on 08/29/2008 10:30:28 AM PDT by donna (Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.)
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To: KantianBurke
I’m sorry.

Yes you are...

16 posted on 08/29/2008 10:31:07 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: nitzy
It is telling that such questions arise without the poser realizing that any work by the mother that is not just nursing the baby, even the care and maintenance of the other children, is instantly condemned with such a stupid comment as you cited.

Let the silly questions marginalize the silly questioners. Trig was in the loving arms of his older sister, he is receiving the love of his family, which is mroe than one can say for an Obama way of dealing with the little guy ... the extra chromosome would warrant killing him in democrat calculus and that killing would be just fine with democrats if done in the womb or by leaving the baby born but unattended to die alone.

The questioner reveals more about themselves than Sarah Palin with such silly characterizations as you cited.

And a final note: Sarah Palin can do more to protect Trig and Trig's right to life by being a force of Christian values in political life than the questioner could comprehend. Immoral? Haha, the questioner doesn't comprehend the mixed morality of this nation which under democrat leadership encourages the killing of little guys like Trig before or after birth. Ignore fools and move on, nitzy. Kudos to you.

17 posted on 08/29/2008 10:34:05 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: KantianBurke; donna; jwalsh07

My father was a church pastor as well as having to take another job. My mother worked a job, often. And, she spent a very significant amount of time working for the church. I’m the youngest of a family of seven (born when my parents were 41). At one time, we were actually nine, including two foster children. We also had a grandmother — sometimes she helped take care of us; other times we took care of her.

Feel free to explain exactly how I suffered. Or, better yet, speak of what you know about.

God provides, where he has willing servants to heed.


18 posted on 08/29/2008 10:37:14 AM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: donna

What a stupid comment!


19 posted on 08/29/2008 10:38:51 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: KantianBurke

And once upon a time most people, and quite rightly, knew there were some things that were simply done of their d@mn business.


20 posted on 08/29/2008 10:40:51 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I've done here today doesn't force you to have a negative opinion of me....)
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To: donna

As if your comments themselves weren’t disgusting enough you had to go and try justifying such hate with passages from the bible. You are a sick one.


21 posted on 08/29/2008 10:45:25 AM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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To: KantianBurke
But now that we’re on the topic how do YOU know who’s going to be raising Palin’s kids now?

Gov. Mark Sandford has an answer for you. He says she was carrying Trig around at the recent Governors' Conference.

22 posted on 08/29/2008 11:14:22 AM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: nitzy; MHGinTN; unspun

Jane Fonda agrees with you.

Congratulations!


23 posted on 08/29/2008 11:17:29 AM PDT by donna (Republicans wont change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: KantianBurke

“...the idea of a woman letting someone else raise their kids...”

If you had been paying attention to many news stories this morning, you’d know that First Dude Todd is a Mr. Mom, and handles the family’s primary childcare. They don’t let “someone else” raise the kids.


24 posted on 08/29/2008 11:22:25 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Homesick for Alaska)
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To: nitzy; KantianBurke; unspun; donna

Thank you. You other three...shame.


25 posted on 08/29/2008 11:27:30 AM PDT by OnTheDress (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: MayflowerMadam
that First Dude Todd is a Mr. Mom, and handles the family’s primary childcare

The Feminazi ideal come to fruition in the Republican Party.

26 posted on 08/29/2008 11:36:34 AM PDT by donna (Republicans wont change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: donna

I guess I can see how you might be happier with any man over any woman. For me, a conservative woman is always better than a liberal man. But that’s just me...


27 posted on 08/29/2008 11:46:17 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam

Conservative means traditional values.

McCain is not conservative and Palin is not conservative.


28 posted on 08/29/2008 11:49:25 AM PDT by donna (Republicans wont change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: KantianBurke
That's one of the reasons the pro-life movement was slow to mount a sufficient challenge the pro-abotion folks in the 70's. All the pro-abortion women were in positions of power and influence, and helped turn public opinion to their side. Once conservative women started getting out in the 'public square', folks' attitudes began to change.

Sarah Palin has a good support network in her husband and older children who can help with the baby, just as the mother of a number of children usually does. She'll also have LOTS of help in the form of Secret Service agents, who will be more than happy, I'm sure, to help with Trig. And since she'll be the Veep, she won't be quite as busy as McCain will be. She'll do just fine, and will be an AWESOME spokeswoman for the pro-life movement in America.

29 posted on 08/29/2008 11:52:28 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: donna
Jane Fonda agrees with you.

.....and Osama bin Laden agrees with you.

What is your point?

30 posted on 08/29/2008 12:13:55 PM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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To: SuziQ; KantianBurke
She'll also have LOTS of help in the form of Secret Service agents, who will be more than happy, I'm sure, to help with Trig.

(From the book “The First Partner” p. 259 - Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.)

One [Secret Service] agent, who politely explained to Mrs. Clinton that his duties did not include toting suitcases from their airplane to their limo, was shocked when she replied, “If you want to remain on this detail,” get your f****** ass over here and grab those bags.”

31 posted on 08/29/2008 12:18:21 PM PDT by donna (Republicans wont change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: annieokie

Jimmy Carter will probably chastize Palin for “playing the Downs Syndrome” thing.


32 posted on 08/29/2008 12:18:22 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: OnTheDress
Um, you might want to take unspun off that 'short list' of curmudgeons. ;^)
33 posted on 08/29/2008 12:18:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Coldwater Creek
"I don’t think that the decision is immoral, just unwise. The children will suffer.

Will they? God will provide. People will help. And whatan example to have for a mom!

34 posted on 08/29/2008 12:22:59 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I don't know if Palin can get the woman vote, but she'll definitely get the MAN vote!")
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To: cookcounty

God did PROVIDE! He gave them a MOTHER.


35 posted on 08/29/2008 12:36:18 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: nitzy
.....and Osama bin Laden agrees with you. What is your point?

What's the point?

You and Jane Fonda share the belief that people with traditional values are the same as Osama bin Laden.

36 posted on 08/29/2008 12:51:47 PM PDT by donna (Republicans wont change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: donna
I said nothing of "people with traditional values." I was comparing you to Osama in that you were upset that not enough people were (and I quote) "bashing" her because of her decision to work outside the home.

In the interest of full disclosure, I have a child who was born with a disabling genetic condition and my wife made the decision to only work one day a week (the day I have off). That is what we found works best for us but I would never "bash" someone who found another way for themselves.

You are a sad little person who probably has so many skeletons in your own closet that you spend all of your time criticizing others to make yourself feel better. I would love to go over your life with a fine tooth comb and point out all of the decisions I disagreed with.

Have a nice day donna.

37 posted on 08/29/2008 1:35:52 PM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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To: KantianBurke
Why is it "immoral" for the father in a family to be the primary care giver for his child?

And how does this change, if at all, when the child is special-needs?

If a two-parent family where the father works at an office fulltime and the mother is with the children fulltime has a new baby with special needs, is it immoral if the father does not immediately quit his job so that both parents can stay home full time with the baby? Is that the only "moral" choice they can make?

If the answer is "no" then how is the Palin's decision any more or any less moral?

If you have any explanation for your "immoral" accusation, I'd like to hear.

(Please tell me you are not one of those people who would agree with the statement : "It is always immoral when a judge awards custody to the father instead of the mother.")

38 posted on 08/29/2008 1:52:32 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: MHGinTN; unspun

My bad, sorry unspun, thanks MHGinTN.


39 posted on 08/29/2008 1:52:37 PM PDT by OnTheDress (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: nitzy
Plenty of people think that only liberal feminists are man-haters. But as you can see from this thread, there are conservative women who fit that bill as well, or at least fit the bill as being denigrating of men. They have no problem with seeing a mother at home fulltime while the father works outside the house, yet they cannot accept the idea of a father at home fulltime while the mother works outside the house. Their biases are clear: Fathers are incompetent care-givers.

Why is this so? I can take an educated guess --- decades worth of "family movies" and "family TV shows" - especially those aimed at children - that portray fathers as wholly incompetent.

40 posted on 08/29/2008 2:12:59 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
Regarding your point, I agree with you that men as a whole are the victims of the bias that you speak of. In terms of husband/wife roles I actually come down somewhere in the middle. I believe that most women are intrinsically programmed to be better care givers than most men are. I can say for sure that my wife is much more loving, patient and caring than I am. On the other hand I don't believe there are absolutes when it comes to grouping human emotional tendencies. I have met some cold-hearted, nasty women (see donna) and some empathetic kind loving men. I can say for sure that only a prideful, self-righteous shrew would try to tell another family how they needed to arrange their parenting responsibilities without ever meeting them.
41 posted on 08/29/2008 2:34:02 PM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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To: nitzy
You are a sad little person who probably has so many skeletons in your own closet that you spend all of your time criticizing others to make yourself feel better. I would love to go over your life with a fine tooth comb and point out all of the decisions I disagreed with.

Have a nice day donna.

...I have met some cold-hearted, nasty women (see donna)

So, that "casting the first stone" business only applies to others?

42 posted on 08/29/2008 2:45:09 PM PDT by donna (Republicans wont change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: donna
So, that "casting the first stone" business only applies to others?

Nope. You cast the first stone. Nitzy picked it up and threw it back at you.

Perhaps that makes you a victim? .... in your own eyes maybe.

43 posted on 08/29/2008 2:51:13 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: donna
I was tossing the stone back to you. Did it bounce of your noggin?

Sorry.

44 posted on 08/29/2008 2:57:25 PM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
I promise I didn't see your post.

Great minds.........

45 posted on 08/29/2008 2:59:02 PM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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To: nitzy; CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC; MHGinTN; unspun

“PALIN ADMITS HER 17-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER IS PREGNANT”

I told you so.


46 posted on 09/01/2008 10:47:23 AM PDT by donna (Sarah Palin: The Feminist ideal come to fruition in the Republican Party.)
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To: KantianBurke

If I had to choose between you as my mother and Sarah Palin, Mrs. Palin would win hands down.


47 posted on 09/01/2008 10:50:46 AM PDT by ShandaLear (Barack Obama, he is the Kwisatz Haderach!)
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To: donna; nitzy; CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC; MHGinTN
“PALIN ADMITS HER 17-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER IS PREGNANT”

I told you so.

You told us this girl was pregnant? (yawn)

BTW, there was a pregancy before marriage in my family, too -- in a pastor's family! GASP!

Feel free to expound upon how we and our families may acheive perfection in all our deeds, donna. Isn't it acheived with stones? Let me know; I've got a pretty good arm, so maybe it would even help me.

48 posted on 09/01/2008 10:59:21 AM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: unspun

Its none of my business. If Governor Palin says she can handle it then let it go. The girl is getting married and I convey my best wishes to her and her groom.


49 posted on 09/01/2008 11:05:58 AM PDT by linn37 (Hail Me, Obama or be cast into the fiery pits of eternal damnation!")
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To: donna; nitzy; MHGinTN; unspun
Donna's original comment: McCain and the Republican Party have chosen a cold hearted feminist.

Donna's new comment: “PALIN ADMITS HER 17-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER IS PREGNANT”. I told you so.

ROTFL! This is rich. Palin's daughter's pregnancy is proof of Sarah being a "cold hearted feminist".

Lemme guess, Donna ..... you teach logic and reasoning at a taxpayer-supported college, right?

You forgot to mention that the Palin daughter's decision to have the baby instead of abort it is also further proof of "cold hearted feminism".

And her decision to marry the baby's father is also further proof of that.

Oops! Maybe I shouldn't have said "baby"? You're one of those people offended by that word, right? I should have said "fetus" or "overgrown zygote" or "clump of tissue"? Oh, please forgive me!

50 posted on 09/01/2008 11:41:53 AM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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