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Dems say Palin is 'risky,' could be a disaster (Yes a, Disaster for the dRats)
CNN ^ | 8/29/08 | CNN

Posted on 08/29/2008 9:41:48 AM PDT by onlylewis

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To: jpl
I can tell they’re already scared to death by their reaction.

Yup. And I'm enjoying it! :)

101 posted on 08/29/2008 10:20:24 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Palin will bring in those people, women and those that see Obama as an arrogant, empty suit.”

Yup, and she’ll appeal to the heart of America....middle class families.

Obama’s done.


102 posted on 08/29/2008 10:20:26 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: andy58-in-nh
So it's official - John McCain has thrown a Hail Mary and tapped Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. The trad med types are ga-ga about what a game-changing choice Palin is. And they're right. It is a game-changer. The Palin pick takes a race already leaning toward Obama and pushes it further into his corner.

Why? Because Sarah Palin is the most unqualified VP nominee in modern history, with the possible exception of Admiral Stockdale.

It is going to be sooooooo much fun to see Gender Politics used AGAINST the RATs for a change.

Male street hustler from Chicago = greatest politician of our time.

Female Governor from Alaska = completely unqualified

103 posted on 08/29/2008 10:21:11 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: andy58-in-nh
I'll bet this guy is so scared, tonight he'll drive his Subaru Forrester into a lamppost.

ROTFLMAO!

On a more serious note, I think this pick helps McCain and improves his chances - but he may still lose.

We have a lot of work to do.

However, it's interesting how inevitable hardcore Democrats believe Obama's supposedly impending victory to be.

I think the insanity we saw from Democrats after Gore's loss and Kerry's loss will be eclipsed in the event of an Obama loss.

There will be demonstrations that turn violent.

There may be actual riots.

There will be numerous new conspiracy theories and new lawsuits in battleground states.

And the Clintons will resume control of the Democrat party.

104 posted on 08/29/2008 10:21:17 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: comebacknewt
It's going to be fun watching gender politics explode in the RATs face on this one.

It's already happening. Take a look at this thread on hillaryclintonforum.net

105 posted on 08/29/2008 10:21:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: onlylewis

Good ol F#ck Schumer.

He’s pissed off because Palin isn’t going to get the VP spot like the last Democrat did - being married to the President. That’s how the dems get THEIR women VPs.

“You get me, you get Hillary!” Algore sat in a friggin’ closet for 8 years dreaming up all the things he did.


106 posted on 08/29/2008 10:22:12 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: calex59

Sara Palin is a huntress, a fisherman, a sports enthusiast, pro-gun.

“Sara Palin makes Joe Biden look like a p*ssy.”

Hey, that sounds like an excellent campaign slogan!


107 posted on 08/29/2008 10:22:12 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: onlylewis

Okay, if Obama wins, the Dems hold on to both houses of Congress, and there are no changes of Speaker or Senate President Pro Tem, their line of succession runs Barack Obama-Joe Biden-Nancy Pelosi-Robert Byrd. There’s a solid bunch for you right there. But wait! There’s more! Just imagine what the Cabinet will look like.


108 posted on 08/29/2008 10:22:29 AM PDT by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: Embrace The Suck.)
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To: nonsporting

Women who have children with disabilities often vote Democrat, because these kids need huge financial resources from the public coffers.

Many of these women are going to identify with Sarah, and switch their vote. When she showed up with that tiny baby in back of her on stage, that is genius.


109 posted on 08/29/2008 10:23:31 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Zombie Lincoln

I think The One is screwed too. Hillary is a very “hard” lady. Palin is tough but not hard. That will appeal to a lot of Americans.


110 posted on 08/29/2008 10:23:38 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: onlylewis

Speaking as an original Reagan Democrat (read my FR profile) McCain just hit the Grand Slam of all Grand Slams with this pick, and Palin in her speech, thanking Hillary for breaking the glass ceiling has just sealed the deal for the moderate womens vote. Can you say Landslide?

If I was an Obama supporter I would be very very worried.


111 posted on 08/29/2008 10:25:09 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: rdl6989

The Dems will point to Sarah Palin’s pro-life principles as a reason for the 18 million PUMAs to not vote for her.

I pray that 18 million American women believe protecting unborn children is a lesser evil than putting Obama and his Marxist cronies near the Oval Office.


112 posted on 08/29/2008 10:25:16 AM PDT by sodpoodle ("Have faith in God...but keep your powder dry." Oliver Cromwell)
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To: onlylewis
This is what amazes me, he was supposedly this great CO. But when you look at the communities he was suppose to organize they still seem to be the same pieces of **it they were when he got there.

Of course they are, the sole goal of CO is to organize voting blocks (power)by appealing to the people through "narrative". Most people do in fact fall for empty promises and lies as long as you speak their "language". Listen carefully to any Democrat speak they use carefully chosen buzz words, the most recent example is Michelle Obama...

113 posted on 08/29/2008 10:25:19 AM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: Slapshot68
My only concern now is how she’ll do against Biden at the debates.

She will do just fine...

114 posted on 08/29/2008 10:26:03 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: comebacknewt

“So, an inexperienced man at the top of the ticket is just fine, but an inexperienced woman as VP is risky and dangerous?”

The first half of your sentence is wrong.

The SECOND half of your sentence is right.

For EXACTLY the same reasons.

For what it’s worth, you have just succintly stated why (in my opinion, and yes, I realize I’m the grinch and troglodyte here) Ms. Palin is a dubious choice.

She is as inexperienced as is Obama. And no, that is NOT a good thing.

This is a precursor to disaster in the difficult years we face ahead. Years that may bring more war. And, considering Mr. McCain’s age and history of health problems, a future that may witness a VP forced into the president’s chair by circumstances.

As I said, I guess I’m the troglodyte and misanthrope here. But I don’t see this as a time “for show”. Let’s get real.

And yes, I will vote for Mr. McCain and Ms. Palin.
But I’ll be praying that he survives his entire term.

- John


115 posted on 08/29/2008 10:26:59 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: 11th_VA
Sarah Barracuda will rip Biden a new one. My daughter said he's going to pull out his hairplugs. lol

I love the graphic.

116 posted on 08/29/2008 10:27:16 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: jveritas

Palin can also be used to hammer the heck out of the RATS in Congress for their lack of an energy policy. She could provide the coattails for a massive change in the Congress.


117 posted on 08/29/2008 10:27:31 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: Slapshot68

BINGO!!!


118 posted on 08/29/2008 10:27:40 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: RichInOC

She’s pro-life and pro-gun but she also just orchestrated a major socialist money give away ($1200 of government money per person to defray the cost of oil, over and above Alaska’s $2000 per person give away through the Permanent Fund) that was signed into law only a couple of weeks ago. And it’s being paid for (plus a lot more) by the largest tax increase by orders of magnitude on Alaska’s oil and gas industry in Alaska history — enacted in a legislative special session she called.

She may be a very attractive candidate but she’s no conservative.


119 posted on 08/29/2008 10:28:03 AM PDT by newroark
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To: Thane_Banquo

“I was planning on voting for Barr. But now I’m gonna vote McCain. The problem is that I live in IL, so my vote doesn’t count”

Dont fall for that Red State Blue State stuff. Look back at the Reagan politcal maps. This could very much be setting itself up for another Reagan like landslide. I am in the same boat you are living in Washington, and I can tell you I am more exited than ever to get involved.


120 posted on 08/29/2008 10:31:16 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Fishrrman
She is as inexperienced as is Obama. And no, that is NOT a good thing.

Clearly false. Palin has more executive experience in her little toe than Obama has ever had. Keep it real man.

121 posted on 08/29/2008 10:31:33 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (Sarah Palin Pro Life, Pro Gun, Pro America, Thank you Lord! :-})
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To: chiefqc

This is McCains and Palins to win bigtime. And I believe that they can. I’m elated with the VP pick.


122 posted on 08/29/2008 10:32:00 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fishrrman

Who among McCain, Obama and Biden has had executive experience?


123 posted on 08/29/2008 10:33:46 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Fishrrman

Who among McCain, Palin, Obama and Biden has had executive experience?


124 posted on 08/29/2008 10:33:52 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Fishrrman
FWIW, I don't necessarily disagree with you. I love the Palin pick, but it is not without some very real risks.

I'm just enjoying the heck out of pointing out the tremendous hypocrisy in the Democrat party, especially as it pertains their view of women and their qualifications.

125 posted on 08/29/2008 10:34:20 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: onlylewis
Sarah Palin is a "risky" move....

I bet they are "deeply concerned", too! Hahahahaha...

This just made my weekend........and month.....year!

126 posted on 08/29/2008 10:34:51 AM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: jveritas

Change is re-defined.

All those typical white folks clinging to their guns and religion in PENNSYLVANIA and other battleground states

see

a LIFETIME NRA MEMBER
CHRISTIAN
PROUD TYPICAL WHITE WOMAN

G
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P
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N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


127 posted on 08/29/2008 10:35:00 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: All

The dems are already spinning. What I find funny is that when they picked Biden WE were happy, we pick Palin and the the dems don’t seem happy, instead they are knocking her and already trying to smear her-—that is what makes me feel this was a fantastic, great pick. Obama is going down! Just wait until the Ayers stuff starts really coming out.


128 posted on 08/29/2008 10:35:51 AM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: WOSG; teletech

McCain’s pick was well thought out. His pick has many positives.


129 posted on 08/29/2008 10:35:52 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: PapaBear3625

Holy Crap! That is one bizzare thread. If we can just ease them into the notion that it really doesn’t matter if you are a women or man but what you stand for, then the Constitution’s promise will be fulfilled. When womens rights are no longer synonymous with abortion but with fundamental natural rights, true equality will be born.


130 posted on 08/29/2008 10:36:35 AM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I never thought I’d be saying this again about a Republican ticket — but this one might be strong enough to turn California red.


131 posted on 08/29/2008 10:36:58 AM PDT by JennysCool (A man who served his country well vs. a walking Che poster. Is it really that tough a choice?)
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To: jwalsh07
Palin has more executive experience in her little toe than Obama has ever had
True but consider what she's done with it: $1200 socialist give-away and a tax increase on industry that had Alaska Democrats wetting themselves with happiness. And that's in less than two years.
132 posted on 08/29/2008 10:37:05 AM PDT by newroark
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To: newroark
She may be a very attractive candidate but she’s no conservative.

You're full of beans.

133 posted on 08/29/2008 10:37:45 AM PDT by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: PapaBear3625
Holy Crap! That is one bizarre thread. If we can just ease them into the notion that it really doesn't matter if you are a women or man but what you stand for, then the Constitution's promise will be fulfilled. When womens rights are no longer synonymous with abortion but with fundamental natural rights, true equality will be born.
134 posted on 08/29/2008 10:38:09 AM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: Slapshot68

McCain has just hammered Obama lately. Palin was the last nail in the coffin. She’s a middle class success story. She looks like and IS America. No one knows who Obama is except that he’s arrogant.


135 posted on 08/29/2008 10:40:25 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: wideawake

One of the many reasons that this was a brilliant pick by McCain (I still have trouble writing those words because I still can’t quite believe he had the stones to do it) is that it will boost his chances in key states where the race has been close: PA and OH (where there are many pro-life Catholic and Union voters). Also: FL (transplanted Catholics and Jews, too); and NC and WV (lots of hunters and sportsmen).


136 posted on 08/29/2008 10:40:28 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: Fishrrman; comebacknewt
She is as inexperienced as is Obama. And no, that is NOT a good thing.

You are wrong, Sarah has far more experience than Obama.

Not only was she a mayor for several terms she beat the crap out of republican corrupt officials and forced them to resign, and stopping the bridge to nowhere in her spare time.

She has pushed the natural gas pipe line through, served 2 years as governor. That alone beats the crap out of the great organizers experience. Obama has zero experience running anything, this woman has about 8 years of running citys and a state.

How in the he** do you equate that with BHOs no experience what so ever? I do not count time on a senate(even if he had his full 3 years in)as equal experience to a governor, or even a mayor.

If McCain dies, hopefully he won't, during the term the country couldn't be in better hands. Don't believe me? I don't care. Go McCain/Palin!

137 posted on 08/29/2008 10:40:32 AM PDT by calex59
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To: newroark
she also just orchestrated a major socialist money give away ($1200 of government money per person to defray the cost of oil, over and above Alaska’s $2000 per person give away through the Permanent Fund) that was signed into law only a couple of weeks ago. And it’s being paid for (plus a lot more) by the largest tax increase by orders of magnitude on Alaska’s oil and gas industry in Alaska history

That's not true and amounts to slander.

The legislative session distributed that $1,200 to each Alaskan as return of a tax revenue surplus.

138 posted on 08/29/2008 10:42:29 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: onlylewis

Stick a fork in the Obamessiah. He’s done.


139 posted on 08/29/2008 10:43:06 AM PDT by Campion (I've been assimilated ... MCCAIN-PALIN '08 all the way ...)
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To: All
PUMA = Palin Unqualified My A**
140 posted on 08/29/2008 10:44:04 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

I am with you!!

I am so excited. I couldn’t believe it when I logged online and saw he picked her.

I can really get behind this ticket now!


141 posted on 08/29/2008 10:44:48 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: newroark
She may be a very attractive candidate but she’s no conservative.

Not real bright are you? Palin is as conservative as they come. Take your sour grapes(which I suspect they are)and stuff them up your a**. Thanks and have a nice day!

142 posted on 08/29/2008 10:45:11 AM PDT by calex59
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To: newroark; jwalsh07
$1200 socialist give-away and a tax increase on industry

A tax rebate is "socialist"?

Newroark, do you even know the meaning of the word "socialist"?

And what tax increase are you talking about? Please provide a little substantiation for your claims.

143 posted on 08/29/2008 10:45:59 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Chunga
You're full of beans.
Okay, what do you call a $1200 check from the government because gas prices went up? Or a doubling of taxes on the most productive oil fields left in the United States? Those have been her policies as Governor of Alaska, and if you think tossing in a good pro-life and NRA position counter-balances that, well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

144 posted on 08/29/2008 10:47:36 AM PDT by newroark
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To: Fishrrman
I disagree. Stronly. She has worked her way up through PTA, councilwoman, mayor, executive position to Governor. Obama got his opposition disqualified and won unopposed. What did Obama do before that? No one knows for certain.

And remember, we put an actor in office that faced down the Russian bear. Sarah Barracuda is her nickname. Find out why.

145 posted on 08/29/2008 10:48:37 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fishrrman
She is as inexperienced as is Obama.

She's a governor.

Obama has absolutely no executive experience.

146 posted on 08/29/2008 10:49:48 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: JennysCool
I never thought I’d be saying this again about a Republican ticket — but this one might be strong enough to turn California red.

Wouldn't that be something!

147 posted on 08/29/2008 10:51:29 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: newroark; Chunga

Chunga, newroark keeps repeating these charges without documenting them.


148 posted on 08/29/2008 10:53:59 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

The $1200 is not a tax rebate, my friend — Alaska has no taxes on individuals, except local option sales and property tax — only on businesses. These payments are directly from the State government to individuals and are not need based or means tested. So you tell me what ‘socialism’ means.

As far as ‘what tax’, well, I’m always glad to do people’s homework for them. Here’s a nice discussion from Ed Morrisey of what Alaska’s (Palin’s) tax increases were and are all about.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/11/palin-backed-alaskan-windfall-profits-tax/

And you may want to note this was all written weeks ago, before Palin was more than a whisper of a rumor for being the VP candidate.


149 posted on 08/29/2008 10:56:58 AM PDT by newroark
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To: wideawake; newroark

newroark will only be happy when Ayn Rand rises from the dead and is chosen as the veep pick by Harry Brown.


150 posted on 08/29/2008 10:57:00 AM PDT by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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