Skip to comments.Dems say Palin is 'risky,' could be a disaster (Yes a, Disaster for the dRats)
Posted on 08/29/2008 9:41:48 AM PDT by onlylewis
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Yeah, McCain should have followed their advice and picked Lieberman. After all, we all know how much the MSM cares about Republicans and wants them to win.
I believe when Obama lived in Hawaii, he ran a LEMONADE stand - and asked the GOVERNMENT to bail him out!! :-)
If you are talking about Biden, he ran a hairdryer!!
And the Alaska Journal of Commerce talks about the $1200 rebate — so, yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus, or Santa Clausette as the case may be:
So, have I done enough heavy lifting on the ‘do your research for you’ front that anyone would care to address the policy implications of Governor Palin’s positions on these matters?
My sentiments exactly.
I was really really impressed.
I think had the dems had any inkling of this choice O'Bama's would have been different.
McCain pulled the rope-a-dope on them. All the usual repubs mentioned, O'Bama chooses Biden, a Washington insider and unlikeable one at that.
Then he springs a breath of fresh air on the Country.
Hooray to McCain!!
Who did you want McCain to choose?
“Even before Palin pick McCain was certain to win the elections.”
Nothing is certain until it happens. I said in June that McCain *could* win *if* he did his campaign right.
Well, McCain is executing a brilliant and flawless campaign so far:
- Knocked Obama off-message with his mocking celeb ad.
- Got on board the drill now campaign
- Smoked Obama in the Saddleback forum.
- Obama made a dreadful pick of Biden, giving McCain an opening for the Hillary voters
- McCain made an inspired pick here that both excites the conservative base and will have appeal to independent voters, especially the downscale cultural conservative white voters clinging to guns, God and family
Sarah Palin is so exceedingly ‘normal’ that any attempts to paint her otherwise will backfire.
McCain is on track to a good solid win if he keeps up the momentum and can peel back the bogosity of Obama’s empty change message. Obama gave a good speech, his performance is on a par with Clinton 1992 so dont underestimate him, and it will win him the election if not responded to properly. But McCain appears up for the job.
MCCAIN/PALIN. Way to go!
But seriously, let's review.
Newroark claimed that Palin doubled taxes on oil operators in Alaska.
That's completely false.
He linked to an article on hotair which quotes the complaints of a PR flak for BP.
BP is the company whose shoddy work caused a corroded pipeline that created at 200,000+ gallon oil spill in Alaska.
Translation: they're really bad tenants.
Governor Palin backed legislation to increase BP's corporate tax from 22.5% to 25% - I'm not sure what math translates that to a "doubling" of tax.
That's still quite low by almost any jurisdiction's standards, and after this tax bill was passed, Alaska was still named 4th best state in the nation by The Tax Foundation - an anti-tax watchdog organization.
Alaska, as most people know, pays its inhabitants a dividend each year from their profits as part owners of the state's oil fields.
In 2008, Governor Palin increased this by $1200 to reflect the increased pipeline revenue the state was earning.
Basically, Sarah Palin raised the rent 10% on the extremely lucrative property BP and ConocoPhilips are leasing from the state of Alaska.
She's a smart asset manager and is getting a better yield from the portfolio of state assets that it's her job to run.
This ugly wench with a huge nose (I don’t like being mean but she is really ugly) from Obambi’s camp is spinning so much and Martha McCallum is really giving it to her as to the experience factor between Palin and Bambi. The dems are trying to say that Palin is inexperienced!!! That is the pot calling the kettle black in a huge way...this is too funny and will piss women off because it does seem that since Bambi is a man HE is more qualified than a woman who is a Governor! The Hillary supporters have been pissed about sexism and this shows they have not learned their lesson. I hope they keep it up as it will help us to get more dems voting for our guy! They are running scared and they know their base is not fired up as they try to protray, they are divided and have lost a lot of the Hillary supporters. Some that said they were just going to stay home are now saying they want McCain, many of them are saying that they are done with the DNC and are saying nice stuff about the RNC. It is like their liberal eyes are finally opening! Hallelujah! It’s a miracle! LOL
“Not only was she a mayor for several terms she beat the crap out of republican corrupt officials and forced them to resign, and stopping the bridge to nowhere in her spare time.”
Preach it, bro!
Obama needs to run something bigger than an ACORN protest and his Senate staff before knocking on her experience.
Obama talked the talk, she walks the walk.
PUMA - Palin unqualified my a**!
You are at the wrong website, teletech. The DailyKook is down the hall!!
I'd love to.
First, I'll point out that the State of Alaska owns the Prudhoe Bay oilfields and the oil companies who lease the fields are renters and not owners.
As renters, they are essentially business partners of Alaska, or contractors who have bid for the opportunity to use Alaska's resources.
Alaska, as owner of the property, has the right to raise the rent on the property as they see fit, or do anything else that will help Alaska - the owner - to maximize its profits.
The more Alaska maximizes the profits from the asset it owns, the less of a tax burden it has to place on the assets its citizens own.
So while the rent Alaska charges is called a "tax" it isn't quite the same as when a government taxes someone else's property to charge them for the privilege of using their own property.
In this case, Alaska is charging rent to the comapnies that want to use Alaska's property.
And, as a taxpayer, I think the best possible outcome is for a state executive to maximize the profits from a state asset to fund the state budget rather than tax my assets to fund the state budget.
BTW, your second "research" link does not discuss the oil field tax increase - but it does discuss the fuel tax decrease that Governor Palin put through to give relief to the Alaskan taxpayer.
That was a home run wideawake.
That is an insult to SUBARU drivers who are conservatives!! (Yes, wife has one when she need to go to the big city (Portland, Maine).
Subaru are good cars. They are thinking about making a PickUp.
********The Hillary supporters are not all sewn up for the Dems, although they try to spin it.******
I know;) just spent an hour reading the posts on one of the links upthread - every poster is soooooooo psyched about Palin and ready to donate & work to elect McCain-Palin. Some have dismissed the pro-choice issue as a non-issue - that they are no longer beholden to the Dems.
I believe McCain will be voted in by a landslide - his choice of Sarah Palin will demonstrate how much better he understands the American voter than *Obama bin Biden Time*
BTW, Here's the perfect McCain campaign response to any claim that Palin is inexperienced:
"Well, Sarah Palin is a first-term Governor. And Barack Obama is a first-term Senator. But I guess Obama must be more experienced than she is, because he's a man."
That should get the Hillary people going.
This morning, the talking heads on MSNBC were talking about Obama's "experience" with running a campaign for 18 months; Obama's "experience" with planning his Grand Oversees Tour; Obama's "experience" with arranging the events during his rally last night.
Obama should run for the office of events planner.
BTW, Here’s the perfect McCain campaign response to any claim that Palin is inexperienced:
“Well, Sarah Palin is a first-term Governor. And Barack Obama is a first-term Senator. But I guess Obama must be more experienced than she is, because he’s a man.”
***Ok, that’s a good one. I’m bumping it here so I don’t have to hunt for it later on & try to remember who posted it.
And the union blue collar vote
I know that there are Conservatives who drive them, but you can’t tell me that you haven’t noticed the considerable number of Subarus on I-95 with Obama/End This War/1-21-09 bumper stickers on them. But perhaps I ought to have selected the Prius (Pious) instead.
The very fact that this is the discussion only 18 hour after Obama’s Biggest Speech of the Year is GREAT TIMING by the McCain campaign.
They are spinning desperately and they are losing it!
The message was supposed to be ‘change’ vs “same”. If they go after a woman Governor who has been 3000 miles away from DC as not experienced enough, even though she has more experience than Obama, they have destroyed their own campaign!!!
Regrettably, you are utterly incorrect.
The State of Alaska owns the mineral rights to all lands in the former federal territory of Alaska. That was in the original Statehood Act. As owner, the State leases exploration, development and production rights to private companies on various terms. And as the owner of the mineral rights it leases subject to royalty payments — an ownership share amounts of which vary and on terms which are perfectly normal for any land owner, public or private. The taxes, on the other hand, are imposed on the private companies and their production by the State of Alaska acting as sovereign.
The federal government has exactly the same system in place for federal lands and I daresay few here (I almost said “no one here” but I had to rethink that after reading a few of these posts) would argue that an increase in federal taxes on the offshore oil industry would be ‘okay’ because, after all, the federal government owns the oil in the first place, so it’s not really a tax increase.
As to the amount of the tax increase, focusing on the rate change is only a part of the story. Oil prices have historically been volatile, and from the late 1980’s until just a couple of years ago had been running at very low rates on inflation-adjusted bases. Of course nobody bled for the oil industry (nor should they have) because that’s what markets do. However, when you put a tax increase into place, as Governor Palin did, just when a counter-balancing (and almost certainly temporary, again on a long term inflation-adjusted basis) run up in prices takes place, you are taking the reinvestment money out of the pocket of industry and putting into the hands of the state government. And, as the cited sources point out, the rate at which you are taking those funds is at the level of billions of dollars per year.
If you value Palin’s position on abortion and gun rights more than you do her positions on economic policy, by all means, do so. But facts are facts and some folks here really don’t want to face them.
Thank you for posting that great link - some of those PUMA women seem a lot like FReeper moms after all is said & done.
Especially love the comments on the order of “If she has raised 5 children she can run the country”
The webmaster of the Hillary site appears to have made the discussion forum unaccessible to unregistered users. I think the level of grass-roots support for Palin from the PUMA crowd may be freaking out the Dem establishment
Now they have Palin t-shirts going on sale:
Nice try. I've been here since 3/98 and I am as conservative as they come. I really hope Gov. Palin works out for McCain but time will tell. She is a true conservative and she is VERY capable but she is also unknown.
Gov. Palin will have to go out and let people get to know who she is and what she stands for and if she connects with voters, Obomba will go down in flames. I've heard her speak and she OBVIOUSLY can handle the job!
I like Gov. Palin but I'm just one vote. She will have to let folks know who she is and what she stands for and I think she will gain their acceptance.
Let's put a *REAL* P***y in the White House!
I'm a naturist (nudist) and so are my family. We are against ABORTION, and I am against gay marriage, thou they should be able to have tax breaks like married people do - and ADOPT older kids.