See what you get for an answer. ;-D
Posted on 08/30/2008 7:09:59 AM PDT by chessplayer
Well, I can imagine the shock for Kolo, who was a father of a Down's syndrome baby at 32. Having children at that age for a woman is not a significant risk. The incidence is about 1 in 1,000 births. At 43, when Sarah Palin had her child, the incidence is 1 in 35 births. Salin had no reason to be shocked, as that was a very real possibility and something she should have been prepared to deal with from the moment she found out that she was pregnant.
Either way, as a religious person she had no reason or justification to be shocked or saddened. Otherwise, all this talk about faith is lip service.
That said, I never suggested anything negaive about Down's syndrome babies, so your post makes aboslutely no sense whatsoever vis-a-vis my post #266.
Yesterday, the New York Times reported that Sarah Palin had belonged to the Alaskan Independence Party in the early 1990s instead of the Republican Party. The AIP now exists mostly as a fringe political party, but had been mainstream enough in 1994 that their gubernatorial candidate had attracted 38% of the vote. Later, though, the party appeared to emphasize an effort to explore options regarding secession and independence.
Now, however, the McCain campaign blog McCain Report states that New York Times reporter Elisabeth Bumiller simply made it up:
While the press scrambles to report on the process by which Governor Palin was offered the second spot on the Republican ticket, New York Times reporter Elisabeth Bumiller has opted instead to make up her own version of events. As the AP reports, “Sarah Palin voluntarily told John McCain’s campaign about her pregnant teenage daughter and her husband’s 2-decade-old DUI arrest during questioning as part of the Republican’s vice presidential search, the lawyer who conducted the background review said.” Yet according to Bumiller, yesterday’s disclosures “called into question” how thoroughly Governor Palin had been vetted. Why the discrepancy? It seems one reporter actually reported the story, while Bumiller made up her own. …
And Bumiller writes that Governor Palin “was a member for two years in the 1990s of the Alaska Independence Party.” Not true, and unsourced. Governor Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982.
I’m not aware that Bumiller reported on this story, but she’s not the only one who did so. Jake Tapper, generally regarded as a balanced and careful political reporter, also reported on the story yesterday. Lynnette Clark, an AIP official, went on record with ABC at least to make this allegation, such as it was. Given that, it hardly seems accurate to call it “unsourced” or to focus one’s ire on Bumiller, at least in this case.
Tapper also contacted the McCain campaign, though, who provided documentation to refute the allegation:
A day after ABC News requested a response from Palin as to whether she was ever a member of the AIP, McCain campain spox Brian Rogers told ABC News that Clark’s “allegations are false.”
“Governor Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982,” Rogers says, providing some voter registration documentation showing her to be a Republican. “As you know, if she changed her registration, there would have been some record of it. There isn’t.”
Rogers says the McCain campaign provided ABC News with all the voter registration information that exists. Rogers says that Palin didn’t attend the AIP convention in 1994, “but she visited them when they had their convention in Wasilla in 2000 as a courtesy since she was mayor.”
He would not comment as to why AIP officials are so convinced Palin was a member of their party. When asked if Palin ever identified herself as a member of the AIP, Rogers said, “No, she’s a lifelong Republican.”
Sarah Palin never belonged to the AIP. That’s the bottom line. Instead of making this argument about Bumiller, the McCain report would be better served by pointing the finger at Lynette Clark, who is obviously so desperate for attention that she exploited Palin’s newfound fame to get her 15 minutes in the limelight.
Update: I got a PDF copy of the documentation showing Palin to have remained Republican her entire adult life. Even I don’t pass that test; I flirted with the Libertarian Party briefly in 1992, but wound up voting Republican anyway in the presidential election.
She could put this controversy to rest in aheartbeat, but she won't because is very much aware that such a statement cold be used against her if there is some untruth to it. As long as others are making statements on her behalf, she is not liable.
But this video from 2008 shows that she is endorsing this anti-American party, states that they have much in common, even constiotutional(!), and considers it is a "healthy competition." This is her attitude towards a sate that wants to break up the US?
Likewise, the PDF files you give jumps form one date to another. One can be active in another organization and never de-register in the previous one.
Even I don’t pass that test; I flirted with the Libertarian Party briefly in 1992, but wound up voting Republican anyway in the presidential election.
You are not running for VP being a heartbeat away from being the top executive of the country and the world, so I really don't care if you pass the test or not. The point is that being a Libertarian is a far cry from being a secessionist traitor.
Carry on.
"The point is that being a Libertarian is a far cry from being a secessionist traitor.
Please don't go to any Freestater meeting and say that, K?
HAHAHAHA!
Probably the same thing Alexander said.
:>)
“Probably the same thing Alexander said.
:>)”
He was a nice boy who respected his grandparents. Had he been born a few centuries later he’d have gone to Liturgy every Sunday too!
Palin needs to come forward one way or another.
She has stated that she’s never been a member of AIP & she has provided documentation that she’s always been a registered republican.
All of which is insignificant to me.
Every small party has a few wackos in it who say and do dumb things. Wasn’t it the Reformed Party that had the “floating candidate?”
What a nutjob.
But, that doesn’t mean there weren’t really good people attracted to that party.
See what you get for an answer. ;-D
When, where?
She also said she did not dismiss anyone because of the state trooper issue and now she hired a lawyer because the issue won't go away.
How do we know she is telling the truth? Just because?
"Gov. Sarah Palin first registered to vote in the state in May 1982 as a Republican, and she has not changed her party affiliate with the Division of Elections since that time."
Are you confusing her with the First Dude?
See here about the vetting. It’s the most recent thing that I’ve seen. Don’t ask me for more than is published in the media. I am not part of the campaign.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2073345/posts
IIRC, the state trooper was her brother-in-law. Is that correct?
The issue really isn’t about the trooper. That happened before she was governor. It’s about the administrator who did not fire her bil. She let that man go when she came to office. He was in one of those kind of jobs where an incoming politician gets to put in their own team. I understand that he was among many others let go. It was without comment on her part about any of them. Their directions were not her directions. Such releases are simply understood as having to do with a new team coming in.
She has a lawyer because someone is trying to make an issue out of it in the same way that the democrats have made an issue of justice department lawyers let go by the Bush administration.
It is purely and simply politics. But politics is vicious in our era. They play tackle and not tag.
Okay, let's assume that we should believe this guy vs. the secretary of the AIP. We still have a potential first family that flirted with secessionists!
Do you think it's possible that when Todd Palin was a member of the AIP (not once but twice), she was not with him politically?
It's like that parish registration analogy. A Protestant wife and a Catholic husband; the wife officially registered in a Protestant parish but goes to husband's church.
Nice checkered past. What's next?
And Mr. Gonzales laid it on thick. Everyone knows they lawyers fired because of their party association. Mr. Gonzales was a real "gem." Hde even mishandled classified information (talk abot the latest revelations!).
My friends with the Downs adult are wonderful Christian people who have served God as missionaries and in their every day lives. I just said that she also was shocked and saddened, as you said Mrs.Palin was but shouldn’t have been. You can have all kinds of faith but sometimes things happen that hurt. It’s how she dealt with it that really matters in the long run.
I sure don’t like YOUR idea of God...
I sure don’t like YOUR idea of God...
I just read an article that says she was NOT a member but her husband was for two years. Careful how you judge, Kosta, for YOU will be judged by God as YOU judge others. Even Christian kids screw up their lives in spite of how well brought up they are.
No, if there were, the KOS kids would probably have to bathe from time to time.
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