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Bill Kristol: Let Palin Be Palin - Why the left is scared to death of McCain's running mate.
The Weekly Standard ^ | The September 8th, 2008 Issue | William Kristol

Posted on 08/30/2008 1:34:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 08/30/2008 1:34:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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>> Comments?

I’m concerned about the VP debate.


2 posted on 08/30/2008 1:38:35 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I saw Bill Kristol on the Fox All-Stars the night after Sarah’s maiden speech (if I may put it like that). He was already formulating this column in his remarks there. Weekly Standard has done a good job of positioning itself a little right of center but if this column and those comments are any indication, the journal may well begin leaning even farther right as the campaign proceeds.

I might even subscribe again (I was a charter subscriber, back in the day).


3 posted on 08/30/2008 1:39:13 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (what part of 'mias gunaikos andra' do Episcopalians not understand?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
unapologetic conservatism

That's something we haven't seen much of in DC. That is also part of Palin that drives the left nuts. It's the same with Rush, and why the RINOs are so embarassed to be near conservatism.

4 posted on 08/30/2008 1:42:21 PM PDT by kenth (Will Rogers never met Barack Obama.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I’m not -

I’ve said for quite some time there is no one in the republican party offering the hope that I grew up with under Reagan. I felt that hope watching her! She’ll hold her own and then some with Biden.


5 posted on 08/30/2008 1:42:55 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
One liberal commentator--a former U.S. ambassador and not normally an unabashed vulgarian--licked his chops Friday afternoon: "To steal an old adage of former Secretary of State James Baker .  .  . putting Sarah Palin into a debate with Joe Biden is going to be like throwing Howdy Doody into a knife fight!" I would bet my life on it that Biden continues to make himself look like a fool in this debate without Palin's help. Biden is in the position of a "Lifetime Washingtonian".. If this beauty queen from Alaska shoots par against him it will be a colossal victory for the McCain camp. Considering she is smart, articulate and on the right side of the issues that most Americans agree with, the Dems are toast IMO.
6 posted on 08/30/2008 1:43:20 PM PDT by Onerom99
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To: Nervous Tick

Relax nervous nellie, she will do just fine since the only issue that will matter then will be drilling ANWR. She is the expert on that and Bordom will show himself to be the windbag that he is.

Pray for W/Palin and our Troops


7 posted on 08/30/2008 1:44:01 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: porter_knorr

>> She’ll hold her own and then some with Biden.

Oh, I agree completely!

It’s *Biden* I’m worried about.

When Howdy Doody shows up to the knife fight, I think Sarah Palin will cut him a new a$$hole. :-)


8 posted on 08/30/2008 1:44:32 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I’m concerned about the VP debate.

I am not as ole Bidet will just make a fool of himself.


9 posted on 08/30/2008 1:44:37 PM PDT by Cheetahcat
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To: BelegStrongbow

Yep, I was thinking the same thing after watching Kristol smack down Kondracke’s idiotic “she’s inexperienced; she’s never even been on Meet the Press” take on Special Report last night.

The Weekly Standard crew (Kristol and Barners) is firmly in Sarah’s corner.


10 posted on 08/30/2008 1:44:40 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Nervous Tick
I am not. Biden can condescend to her and look like an a-hole to the millions of women pissed that Hillary didn't get the job that Biden is trying for. She also has a reputation for kicking ass when she needs it. Third, Biden makes plenty of gaffes on his own. Lastly, Palin can remind millions of those women that McCain was the one who put a woman on the ticket. How does Plugs explain why he is more qualified for the #2 slot when he was out of the Dem race in no time at all and Cankles got 18 million votes?

This debate won't change anyone's opinion of Obama vs McCain.

11 posted on 08/30/2008 1:45:17 PM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: Nervous Tick

I am, too ... for Biden.


12 posted on 08/30/2008 1:45:42 PM PDT by xvq2er
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To: Nervous Tick
I’m concerned about the VP debate.

Don't be.

Sarah will be very gentle with the idiot, won't humiliate him in front of a national audience, and will be modest as she crushes him underfoot.

There's nothing to be nervous about.

13 posted on 08/30/2008 1:45:44 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When He rolls up His sleeves, He ain't just puttin' on the Ritz)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“if Palin holds her own against Biden, as she is fully capable of doing? McCain will then have succeeded in combining with his own huge advantage in experience and judgment, a politician of great promise in his vice presidential slot who will make Joe Biden look like a tiresome relic”

Kristol nails it here. Governor Palin is a fresh face, and she her unscripted performance on Friday was a game-changer.

You never get a second chance to make a first impression, and the Left instinctively knows what the rest of us do:

She hit it out of the park.


14 posted on 08/30/2008 1:47:23 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am not as concerned as some about the VP debate. The pressure, in my opinion, will be on Biden since he will have to walk a fine line. I was living in Philadelphia when he was first elected to the senate so I have watched him for all of his senate career. His nickname, Jabberin’ Joe, is well earned. After watching a lot of video of her making presentations as well as her acceptance on Friday in Dayton she will be well prepared and ready for him. Biden is a relic of times past. As Mike Huckeby stated on Fox News last night “any governor faces more challenges in a year than most senators face in a career. Being a senator means endless committee meetings, listening to your colleages drone on and on. Plus only working 147 days a year”. Behind those eyeglasses is a talented person who will be more than able to hold her own. I just wish she was debating Obama.


15 posted on 08/30/2008 1:47:39 PM PDT by SageofRugby
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To: xvq2er; Jim Noble

>> I am [nervous], too ... for Biden.

Y’all got it!


16 posted on 08/30/2008 1:49:10 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Yep, I was thinking the same thing after watching Kristol smack down Kondracke’s idiotic “she’s inexperienced; she’s never even been on Meet the Press” take on Special Report last night.

Kondracke was also trying to claim that among Obama's experience to be president was the fact that he has been running for president for two years. Huh?

17 posted on 08/30/2008 1:49:22 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"an effort by all the powers of the old liberalism, both in the Democratic party and the mainstream media, to ...ridicule her and patronize her. They will distort her words and caricature her biography. They will appeal, sometimes explicitly, to anti-small town and anti-religious prejudice. All of this will be in the cause of trying to prevent the American people from arriving at their own judgment of Sarah Palin."

This will get ugly before it is over.
I'm hopeful because it seems the Palin family has spent its time "living" life, not stroking their "egos".
Unlike Washington lifers that succumb to their weaknesses.

18 posted on 08/30/2008 1:51:02 PM PDT by Read2Know ("A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." S. Freud)
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To: xvq2er

I can’t wait.


19 posted on 08/30/2008 1:51:27 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Nervous Tick
I'm not. I believe Sarah is going to make BIden look bad...he will do most of it himself, but when contrasted to Sarah and what I believe will be quick, to the point, witty, and spot on comments the contrast will be obvious and compelling for Palin and McCain and devastating for Biden and Obama.

THE AUDACITY OF RUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

20 posted on 08/30/2008 1:52:04 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jim Noble
That's a pity. Biden deserves to be crushed, viscously if necessary.
21 posted on 08/30/2008 1:52:37 PM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: Nervous Tick
I’m concerned about the VP debate.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Sarah Palin is deadly. In fact Joe Biden might as well be debating Anne Coulter. Palin is that good.

I feel sorry for Biden already.

22 posted on 08/30/2008 1:53:20 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (http://www.theobamafile.com/))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What unsettles liberals is that sexist (by nature) conservatives are rallied and energized by a female candidate. This does not fit their view of conservatives (and of themselves).

Hillary is now old hat.


23 posted on 08/30/2008 1:55:04 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: KarlInOhio

lol..that’s right. And the other panel memebers (including Brit) had fun ridiculing Kondracke’s idiocy. Beltway Boy Morty is so mortified by (as far outside the Beltway as possible) Palin he’s crumbling on national tv. Great entertainment.


24 posted on 08/30/2008 1:55:42 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Joe Biden is Howdy Doody?

"One liberal commentator--a former U.S. ambassador and not normally an unabashed vulgarian--licked his chops Friday afternoon: "To steal an old adage of former Secretary of State James Baker .  .  . putting Sarah Palin into a debate with Joe Biden is going to be like throwing Howdy Doody into a knife fight!"

I'm not too worried about Sarah more than holding her own - the big ??? is whether the format is truly balanced and whether the questioners/moderator keep it like a typical VP debate (in which Sarah Palin will shine), or will the cooperate with the Demagogues in turning it into some exam/trivia contest about foreign policy minutia that Biden would be much more likely to know. On the major issues, I think SP will be fine, and she has a far more appealing presence -- plus Biden will have to tread very carefully to not piss off a lot of people if he goes into the kind of heavy-handed attacks that the Demagogues love to do.

But I can certainly imagine that there may be foreign policy minutia that she will not know and will not have time to bone up on in 4 weeks. Personally, I don't care a bit whether or not she can recite any details of the SALT-II talks, etc. but I can easily imagine that with Biden the 'Rats and MSM will try to turn the whole debate in that direction.

25 posted on 08/30/2008 1:56:11 PM PDT by Enchante (The Barracuda and the Maverick will THRASH the Obamessiah and the Mouth!!)
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To: Candor7

>> Sarah Palin is deadly. In fact Joe Biden might as well be debating Anne Coulter. Palin is that good.

Sincere, guileless righteousness is powerful, isn’t it?

Reagan-esque.

Biden doesn’t have a chance. I almost feel sorry for him.


26 posted on 08/30/2008 1:56:22 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain showed a lot of courage in choosing Sarah Plain. Obviously she has solid conservative credentials. Pro-lifers and Evangelicals will come out to vote for her based on her record. And Palin has more executive expereience then Obama and Biden combinded. Its only logical that Palin will help McCain pull in more of the women vote. Including Independents and even ticked off Hillary voters. Those are the pluses.

Any downside to choosing Palin will come from her daily behavior on the campaign trail and how the liberal media portrays her in the news. Also, Palin’s performance in the VP debate will be under a bright spotlight.

Overall, a good choice by McCain. How it plays out is anyones guess.


27 posted on 08/30/2008 1:56:41 PM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Vote --- With Palin on the ticket, conservatives should be satisfied.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Biden IS one of the “good ole boys” network. He is also a relic. Hope he starts looking for some good lines to plagiarize soon. He is going to need it.


28 posted on 08/30/2008 1:56:46 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Nervous Tick
Oops, that's...

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

29 posted on 08/30/2008 1:58:23 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: porter_knorr
She’ll hold her own and then some with Biden.

I think, hope and believe she will eat his lunch while handing "Scrappy" Joe Biden his own head on a platter.

30 posted on 08/30/2008 2:00:18 PM PDT by woofer ('Senator Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth' - Steyn)
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To: KarlInOhio
Kondracke was also trying to claim that among Obama's experience to be president was the fact that he has been running for president for two years. Huh?

I saw that!
It just floored me.

In the time Obama has been running for president (and not doing the job he was being paid to do) Sarah was cleaning out crooked Alaskan politicians and gaining valuable (and real)executive experience.

The last 24 hours had made me realize that a great part of Obama's success in the last 20 months is because he got the early jump on the primary and was the only new, young (relatively so) face on the campaign trail.

This campaign has been needlessly and interminably long because Obama's wealthy backers started him early in hopes of bleeding the competition financially dry.

Now, in only 24 hours, Sarah Palin has moved him and Jaberin' Joe from smug offense to reactionary defense.

John McCain is in the Catbird seat (at least for the next week or two).

31 posted on 08/30/2008 2:02:24 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: GOP Poet

The press and Washington is so blind-sided over this pick that they are left speechless.

More people than ever before are listening closely to what the candidates are made of and to what they say.

The Left is in big trouble and they have very little ammunition to attack Palin with. Inexperience? Imagine that, and their main candidate has only 178 days in the Senate and has only been a community activist before that for a short time.

Palin has run a business, been a very successful mayor, an accomplished Governor and a Commander in Chief of one of the largest National Guard units in the Country.


32 posted on 08/30/2008 2:03:11 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Sara Palin; The Orca in a bay of Democrat Belugas!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Comments?

If she is really what the accounts say she is, I will vote for the ticket after all. I was prepared to walk away.

33 posted on 08/30/2008 2:04:56 PM PDT by gitmo (Some days you're the dog. Some days you're the hydrant.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I used up all my popcorn during the democRat convention. I think I better re-stock.


34 posted on 08/30/2008 2:07:25 PM PDT by gitmo (Some days you're the dog. Some days you're the hydrant.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I’ve been a big Fred B fan for many years now.

Mort Kondracke really irritates me. But then of all the left-leaning Fox contributors only Juan Williams is tolerable. And he is beginning to lean right.


35 posted on 08/30/2008 2:07:35 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (what part of 'mias gunaikos andra' do Episcopalians not understand?)
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To: Mr. Mojo
she’s never even been on Meet the Press


36 posted on 08/30/2008 2:08:45 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Nervous Tick
I’m concerned about the VP debate.

Why, I wonder?

For sure, Biden has 35 years of campaigning and political experience behind him. He has often spoken -- on the hustings, on the Senate floor, in Committee meetings and on the Sunday morning shows.

All of that is true.

However, at the same time he was doing these things, he has given ample evidence that he is a pompous blowhard, a gasbag of the worst kind.

He is not quick afoot. Given the choice between a terse direct response and a laborious circumlocution, he will inevitably choose the latter. And extend it. He is given to tired cliches, not the pithy epigram.

Biden is no "quick-witted debater". He is a ponderous target for one.

Based upon her performance at the VP introduction yesterday, she'll be picking his bones by the close.

37 posted on 08/30/2008 2:09:25 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

>> Why, I wonder?

See my post #8.


38 posted on 08/30/2008 2:11:29 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Onerom99
Joe Biden = Howdy Doody.

Palin will be packin'.

39 posted on 08/30/2008 2:14:47 PM PDT by AZLiberty (You can't power the U.S. economy on Democrat snake oil.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Let me remind you that on August 10, Karl Rove went on “Face The Nation” to argue that Senator Obama would make an “intensely political choice” for Vice President without regard for the “responsibilities of president.” At the time, Rove believed Obama would choose Tim Kaine, and argued against him by saying this:
With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he’s been a governor for three years, he’s been able but undistinguished. I don’t think people could really name a big, important thing that he’s done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America. And again, with all due respect to Richmond, Virginia, it’s smaller than Chula Vista, California; Aurora, Colorado; Mesa or Gilbert, Arizona; north Las Vegas or Henderson, Nevada. It’s not a big town. So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I’m really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States?

40 posted on 08/30/2008 2:14:57 PM PDT by ER Doc
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My comment is this,

Make sure everyone tapes it, it will be historical.

Sarah could skin a moose with a leatherman, she can haul fish onto the deck of a fishing boat in the most dangerous of Alaskan seas, she knows which end of a rifle the bullet comes out of and does it to bring home food for the family, not for sport or photo ops.


41 posted on 08/30/2008 2:16:39 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Yes I really do live in Wasilla, Alaska.)
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To: Candor7

I don’t think Palin needs any help, but if she does, she could call on Coulter as a speechwriter.


42 posted on 08/30/2008 2:19:06 PM PDT by AZLiberty (You can't power the U.S. economy on Democrat snake oil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin is tougher (and better looking) than Chaney. Her only con is that she has shot a lot of caribou, but has never bagged a lawyer. Is Joe Biden a lawyer?


43 posted on 08/30/2008 2:27:29 PM PDT by CHEE (Stink, Steam and All)
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To: Nervous Tick

No need to worry about Palin. The Left is worrying plenty enough to go around.


44 posted on 08/30/2008 2:30:18 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: Nervous Tick
I'm not...at all.

Biden is the easiest type of person to put off-stride in a debate. I shouldn't doubt that Ms. Palin will be very able to goad him into one of his notorious gaffes, probably with little trouble.

And, of course, should The Plagiarist resort to his favourite tactic, namely bullying, 1) Ms. Palin will handle it quite nicely, and 2) he'll look just like the stupid sod that he is.

45 posted on 08/30/2008 2:30:46 PM PDT by SAJ (If Hanna gets into GOM, this is gonna get UG-LY...)
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To: bray

There are other issues than ANWR. Democrats have plenty of time to find a wedge issue or two. If they think it’s abortion, they’re going to have to pound sand.


46 posted on 08/30/2008 2:34:11 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: Candor7

I don’t feel sorry for Biden at all. I hope she filets him like a salmon.


47 posted on 08/30/2008 2:34:42 PM PDT by hawkboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When you’ve been fighting the “good ole boy” insider club of your own party, fighting “Bidet” should just be an invigorating wash.


48 posted on 08/30/2008 2:35:28 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: Nervous Tick
I'm not the slightest.

Sarah appears to never have to think about what she believes and like most women, doesn't hesitate to spit it out. She has a BS in Journalism (obvious from her appearance yesterday)with a minor in Political Science.

Her likability compared to the smarmy Biden is stunning. Of course, he will use his usual tactics but considering he's never left DC and the Senate sense he was 30, he's out of touch with real people while Sarah is very much in touch with real people.

Let Biden "go for the jugular" and he'll only come across as the blowhard, BS, bully that he is.

Somehow, I don't think that Sarah will be overly intimidated by him as she has faced down Alaskan bears intent on having her for lunch. Compare that to a limp wrist like Biden, no problem.

49 posted on 08/30/2008 2:35:49 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot; SAJ

sigh...

See my post #8.


50 posted on 08/30/2008 2:36:05 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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