Skip to comments.Alan Colmes Responds to "Conservative Bloggers": Itís About Judgment, Stupid
Posted on 08/31/2008 4:28:08 PM PDT by cgk
Here is Alan Colmes in his own words, or his fans' own words, or other people's words... He's still digging.
The post about Sarah Palins pre-natal care was taken down because of the vile comments made by a pletehora of conservatives who decided to invade the site and show us just how decent and value-driven some of them are. Nothing like epithet-hurling if you want to make your point, or if you have strong objections to what someone says or does. Furthermore, I in no way mean to suggest that her childs Down Syndrome was in any way related to decisions she made. In fact I never mentioned Down Syndrome in the post. However, I apologize that my post was not more clear on that point. That is my fault, and Ill take responsibility for not being more clear on that point. That being said
Jaru summed it up on a previous thread.
Conservative hate was re-routed via conservative blogs!
Anyway, I love how everyone keeps trying to accuse Alan of accusing Princess Mooseburger of birthing a mentally retarded child on purpose.
He asked a judgement question about a 7 month pregnant woman who just had her water break GET ON A 12 HOUR FLIGHT TO GIVE BIRTH after giving a 30 MINUTE SPEECH instead of doing the SENSIBLE THING AND STAYING PUT WITH A DOCTOR.
The idea that you cant question Sarah Palins judgment because she has a Down Syndrome baby is right up there with the outrage some feel the minute you question a man who was held in a prison camp for five years. Yet, the same outraged protectors of our values have no trouble questioning Obamas judgment: a nodding acquaintance with someone in his neighborhood, his choice of a church, his very faith, and then they blamed that on the Clintons). The question was even raised as to whether he is hiding the truth of his birth certificate. In fact, hotair.com, the the site most outraged about what I posted, was one of the prime venues of the birth certificate debate, among others concerning Obamas judgment. And lets not forget the attacks on Michelle Obama and the insinuations that she doesnt really love her country.
For the record, I think the McCain choice of Palin was caculatingly smart, in that it guarantees that a glass ceiling be broken after the coming election. Im sure Sarah Palin is a fine person who is just very wrong on the issues and, like all of us, hasnt always shown perfect judgment. But dont tell me that John McCain chose the best person for the job, or that he didnt make this choice reactively, because Hillary Clinton is not on the Democratic ticket.
For the record, here is the link to Rogers Cadenheads post on the issue of judgment.
Maybe Palins actions can be written off as Alaskan grit, since shes a macho hunting governor who jogs in freezing temperatures and dines on moose burgers. But as a parent myself, I think the Palins were extremely fortunate that their reckless stupidity did not end in tragedy. As middle-aged parents who already had four kids, the Palins had to be completely familiar with all the things that can go wrong in a pregnancy. One commenter on the Washington Times laid out the enormous risk she was taking:
Airlines are unequipped to handle most emergencies at 30,000 feet, particularly the kind Palin put her unborn child at markedly increased risk for. These emergencies include birthing a premature infant or uncontrolled maternal bleeding. This was her FIFTH pregnancy and delivery can happen rapidly and unexpectedly. The baby or Palin could easily have died.
The Anchorage Daily News gave the chronology of events the day Palin was in Dallas giving a speech where she began contractions, and water broke. It quotes Dr. Laurie Gregg, a Sacramnto obstetrician:
[Dr. Laurie Gregg] who is active in the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said when a pregnant womans water breaks, she should go right to the hospital because of the risk of infection. Thats true even if the amniotic fluid simply leaks out To us, leaking and broken, we are talking the same thing. We are talking doctor-speak, Gregg said.
Down Syndrome is another matter, and can sometimes be related to a mothers age. This is a risk that older parents take, and one the Palins took consciously, and not irresponsibly.
Because of prenatal testing, most families now know beforehand, said Judy Waldron, president of the Alaska chapter of the National Down Syndrome Congress, a support and education group that delivered a parent packet to the Palins in the hospital.
They anticipate it and they kind of relish the challenge of having a child with special needs, said Waldron, an Anchorage teacher whose 19-year-old daughter, Lyn, has Down syndrome.
If we are going to evaluate candidates based on life decisions: what churches they attend, what religions they practice, who their preachers are, who their friends are, all of which fall under the rubrick of judgment, then all of this is fair game. That argument cuts many ways so, to quote my least favorite president, Bring it on.
It is indeed. And most people have the good judgment not to have William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright on their list of friends.
I feel bad for Colmes. It’s bad enough being the homliest person on the planet but being the dumbest also? It has to be tough.
Feel the Leftist Love.
My experience with my wife and child birth is that I always deferred to her judgment. As if a man could know. Hey Alan, what is your basis for comment if you are a man?
Perhaps Colmes should talk to there women.
Wonder what they would say to Alan.
Famous Older Moms Compiled by Monica Hesse, September & October 2005
Having children later in life is a popular choice for celebrities, whose fast-paced careers often make starting a family in their 20s or 30s difficult. Heres what some famous older moms have said about the ups and downs of motherhood
Kay Bailey Hutchison, 62 Senior senator from Texas and mother of Bailey, 4, and Houston, 3 “Our children are beautiful beyond belief, except for a few occasions at 3:30 a.m.”
Sharon Stone, 47 Mother of Roan, 5, and Laird, 5 months “I have more support and love and kindness than at any other time in my life.”
Diane Keaton, 59 Mother of Dexter, 9, and Duke, 4 “Afternoons, I pick up the kids and run around like a chicken with its head cut off. I collapse at 9 p.m. Im like a farmer woman.”
Joan Lunden, 55 Mother of Jamie, 24, Lindsay, 22, Sarah, 17, twins Max and Kate, 2, and twins Jack and Kimberly, 7 months “The best way to approach bathing, feeding, and dressing the younger ones is like an assembly line.”
Cheryl Tiegs, 58 Mother of Zack, 14, and twins Jaden and Theo, 5 “I cant say that all women should become mothers after 50; yet for me, its great.”
Susan Sarandon, 59 Mother of Eva, 20, Jack Henry, 16, and Miles, 13 “I had my kids late. I didnt think I could have them and I didnt expect to have them. But they are my best work.”
Deidre Hall, 57 Mother of David, 13, and Tully, 10 “I hope to teach my sons inner strength and empathy, and a deep love and loyalty to each other
"Homely"? Puh-leeze, I'm homely. Homely, loosely defined, is plain, no obvious outward beaty.
Colmes is butt-ugly, bug-eyed scary.
Did Palin take proper pre-natal care? Shame on her! We all know the RESPONSIBLE thing to do is to suck your child’s brains out with a vacuum. Palin should be ashamed!
We need another one just to make them squirm a little more... Republicans: The Party for Families.
The McCains have 7 kids. The Palins have 5. That is a winning image.
I used to have respect for Colmes, it’s gone now.
Alan Colmes is a hypocrite every time he utters the word birth.
Colmes is a smarmy, arrogant, steaming turd.
I guess she doesn’t have to call alan colmes for advice. It wasn’t like it was her first child.
Was young Ann seduced by an already married Obama Sr. on her birthday? Was she looking to "lose it" on her 18th birthday, now that she was a college girl?
Are these the kinds of speculations that Alan Colmes would be interested in pursuing?
Colmes is having a huge Don Imus moment. Hannity needs to take the higher road and get the hell out!
Who is colmes?
I am so weary of pigs like Combs. Nature can be faulted for producing genetically defective offspring and, thankfully, superior and loving people are often given the priviledge of caring for them by God. However, people who devolve into the kind of gibbering swine that Combs is have only themselves to blame for their mean, miserable and sub-human state.
How can anyone take someone who has to call people names like the above seriously? Honestly, this person needs to have a deep look inside themselves and ask why they cannot present their ideas without this sort of thing?
Credit where credit is due.
That is mildly amusing no matter your frame of reference.
Colmes took the story down because of the comments? Garbage. His mods can remove the comments. He took it down because it was stupid, and it stays down because it was stupid.
Sorry woof! I probably should have looked in the mirror myself before making that comment. LOL!!!
Quit insulting steaming turds! Just leave them alone !!! (sob).
You’ve got to have some pretty poor judgment to second-guess a mother of five about the birthing process.
What an idiot (Colmes).
Correction ... he's not a man, but then he's not a woman either!
nodding acquaintance with someone in his neighborhood,
I don’t have any “nodding” acquaintances with anyone who would hold a fund raiser in my home. I don’t have acquaintances either who would do that. Only a **good** friend would do that for me.
Colmes is the wooden Indian I seen at Cherokee NC on the side of the road , who couldn’t make it own his own.
Maybe Alan ought to contact the marxists who say she really wasn’t pregnant so they can get their stories straight
And I’ll bet the same blogger who made the mooseburger comment will then in their next breathe lament namecalling.
As someone once said...
Ignorance can be cured. Stupidity is terminal.
Sarah Palin had already given birth four times. I bet she knew exactly what she was doing.
He’s not one of those things in that movie, what was the name of that...
Men in Black?
Palin is more man than Colmes ever was, and more woman than he’ll ever get.
Thank you cgk for this thread.
This is the only “Colmes” related thread I will post just one statement in.
Colmes is a typical liberal.
He will do anything and say anything for personal attention, personal gratification and ratings.
Generally speaking, liberals do not have the ability to think things through.
They generally thrive on their feelings, their emotions, their passions, their
agendas, sound bites, and glossy visuals.
Back to Colmes, he is today’s winner of the STUCK ON STUPID award and the IDIOT ALERT award.
I'm not sure this would make them squirm. The Obama supporters are so anti-family, they are probably considering using the same slogan (can't allow "breeders", now, can we?)
But as a parent myself
Egads, he' reproduced!!
Colmes is putrid.
I dont know how hannity has restrained himself from wringing that geek’s pencil neck.
Obama and Ayers had more like a ‘nod and a winking’ acquaintence...
I, too, have seen the wooden Indian statue in Cherokee, and you just insulted it by comparing it to Colmes.
What’s that joke: He fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down?
All things are completely subjective with the Left, and they'll be the judge of that. Or, at least as many Leftist federal judges they can pack the federal courts with.
I can listen to Hannity on radio, but not TV. When Colmes comes on he is so completely obnoxious most of the time and mainly because he SPINS...and this Sarah Palin is a perfect example of it...especially because he doesn’t have the facts and is only interested in throwing mud...UGGGG. I wrote to Hannitty and told him to shake lose of this guy, and put another message on the Colmes link which told him where to put it.
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